Culture Jane Doe in Brock Turner Case Goes Public, Writes Memoir
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I wouldn't call a lifetime registration as a sex offender a slap on the wrist, but thats just me. If you want a more detailed analysis of why he got the sentence that he received, I suggest you read the Commission on Judicial Performance's report on the matter. You can find it in full here.
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The long and short of it is that Judge Persky would have, and had, given similar sentences in similar circumstances, as he was bound to do so by law and statutory guidelines.
Stop playing into the hands of the people that want to undermine our entire rule of law and inject discriminatory and harmful prejudices into the system.
This memoir will be about how the assault that she could not remember that left her with no lasting injuries somehow ruined her life forever. In short, it will be about the psychological trauma she endured at the hands of her 'feminist' allies who convinced her that she had been ruined for life by a drunken fingerbang behind a frathouse. (Funny how much value feminists put on a woman's sexual purity and virginity, isn't it? Very traditional.) It will be about how anyone that ever could be perceived as being sexually violated is a victim forever and ever, and thus must look to the SJWs for answers as they are held down into perpetual victimhood.
I have no doubt that it will advocate for a dissolution of bedrock principles in justice, like the ones that her godmother and architect of Persky's recall, Michele Dauber, advocates. You know, like removing the ability to confront your accuser, or to have matters decided on fair standards of evidence. So par for the course.
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Pretty sure she was trying to get drunk and get laid, she just passed out and got fingerbang raped instead. Yeah reaching the point where you're totally fucked up drunk is a really shitty idea. It's an even shittier idea if you aren't out with friends who will watch your back. It's an even worse one when you're a woman. Stupid victims shouldn't typically affect the severity of a crime though aside from stuff like accidentally running someone over because they were dumb enough to jump out into the road.
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Are you that damn dumb to think that rape is only seen as bad because of virginity?
This subforum must be destroyed with nukes doused with holy water.
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Don't be obtuse. Feminists want to make female victims of any sexually related offense, real or imagined, into perpetual victims both to manipulate people's sympathy to gain power and to make the 'victim' beholden to them forever. When a dude gets sucker punched and his wallet taken there isn't a massive industry of lecturers, media pundits, and politicians chomping at the bit to call him a 'brave survivor' and parade him around for sympathy to obtain power. ( Obviously they don't do this when a man is raped because confronting the sexist gender stereotypes they claim to hate would minimize the effectiveness of their guilt trip.)
Aside from the hypocrisy of claiming that women are strong and powerful, but also simultaneously such delicate flowers that a single traumatic event scars them for life, and aside from the fact that they are obviously using these people to obtain their own goals, its also disgustingly harmful to the actual victims. People cannot heal and move on to have healthy, happy lives when they are being drowned in a sea of lies telling them that they can never be healed, that they can never move on, and that they are a victim forever.
That is downright goddamn evil, and this abuse is being perpetrated by the very sociopaths that claim to be the advocates for the people they are torturing!
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1. Persky gave a CP hoarder like 4 months, well beneath minimum sentencing for that shit. And if it isn't, I'll slot that as a failing of the law, because come the fuck on.
2. Have you ever considered that rape is bad for reasons beyond virginity and purity? Have you ever considered anything besides how bad you want to suck wolfcock?
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Christ, some of the comments in this thread...
Are you guys okay? Do you need a blanket and a snack? Do you need to talk?
Are you guys okay? Do you need a blanket and a snack? Do you need to talk?
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Today we learned that the subject of rape can cause Adult Onset Autism.
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That's not what he's saying. There's been a huge push to convince women that rape is the absolute worst thing that could happen to them -- that you'll be left traumatized for life, that getting over it just means you're "in denial." If you've been victimized, you're encouraged to view yourself as a victim forevermore; if you haven't, you're supposed to fear rape above all, regardless of the actual risk. By making rape a catastrophic event, you prevent women from moving on and actually healing. I don't want to powerlevel, but this messaging is pervasive in feminist circles and I truly believe that it keeps women hostage to their fears.
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Many thanks to @Bibendum to translating this because I don’t think you could have worded your point any worse.
What does qualify as a “real victim” to you?
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Ok. I need to ask the question. What worth will her memoir provide to anyone? Is it going to be a diatribe about how Brock basically got away with it because of "white privilege"?
Gotta have nothing to do with his family being loaded. It's purely his skin colour.
Gotta have nothing to do with his family being loaded. It's purely his skin colour.
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probably about how she got blackout drunk like many people that age and social station and woke up in the ER with sore vag and a trial looming for her rapist. i mean one thing shouldn't lead to the other. plus all the media attention. it's her life now thanks to the pos brock, might as well make a buck off it.
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Perhaps it’ll provide people the comfort of knowing that they’re not alone in being a victim of rape? Even if it does become a preachy book about privilege, who gives a shit? She deserves to be able to handle whatever she’s feeling in a productive manner. Even if you don’t buy into the privilege system, rape victims can still empathize with her, and that’s good. They need to know that they’re not alone.
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Thread aside, the whole tea consent video is fucking retarded and comes off like a meme.
On topic, Brock Turner deserved time, and the fact he got off is a slap in the face of justice. Dude shouldn't have gotten off with the weak ass punishment he did (he should be serving time with a lifetime registration), and the fact he ran off didn't help his case when apprehended. As someone else said in thread, what is she going to be writing about in this memoir? As sad as it sounds, outside of getting raped by this faggot, nobody cares. If it's something like 400 pages about herself and then like 30 about this guy, I have no clue what will happen or how people may respond, and that could be the most interesting thing about this.
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That's fair enough. Brock should've received more than three months in a county jail.
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part of the problem is that nuance is way too hard for most people in something like this. there were multiple lamentable failures as society and individuals that night that led to a fucked up situation.
but ultimately justice is being served one way or another. someone else said karma, that works as well.
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I'll preface this by saying I have no opinion on the Turner case in particular because I haven't looked until it. I don't need to be educated about it. Don't waste your time.
"No woman should be punished with rape for stupid naivety" is not a meaningful statement, either. Because it's arguing against a position ("the crime of rape is a proper and deserved punishment for being stupid and naive") virtually nobody holds, certainly nobody in this thread, and even worse, it's arguing not with a person but with reality itself. I don't guess I have to point out how fucking pointless that is.
Rapists (and people who would rape but haven't gotten the opportunity yet) exist. They have always existed as long as human beings have existed. They exist not because they don't understand the concept of consent. It's not because they don't know that what they're doing is wrong. They don't care that rape is wrong. They like doing it. And all a rape requires is a rapist who wants to rape and a chosen target to be victimized.
Damn near nobody (I'm sure a handful of psychos somewhere do, aside from the rapists themselves) believes rape is ever justified. But everyone bears some responsibility for minimizing risk to themselves in dangerous situations when they can and in every way they possibly can. And placing yourself thoughtlessly in dangerous situations means you've contributed to any negative outcome in that sense. And everyone fucking knows that.
Nobody should be mugged. Attacking and stealing from people is wrong. But if you choose to walk through a dangerous city at night and get mugged, you fucked up, and no amount of screeching self-righteously about the evils of mugging or wailing into the ether about the unfairness of your assault will stop muggers from existing or stop the next mugging. Violent criminals don't need to be educated about the importance of respecting property rights when they violently take things that don't belong to them. They don't care ably the wrong they do. They want to attack and steal from people, so they will continue to attack people and steal from people. So it's best to minimize your risk and avoid dangerous situations, even if you strongly believe you should have the right to walk anywhere at any time around anyone without being mugged.
I am so fucking sick of the infantile behavior of True and Honest Allies in absolving rape victims of all responsibly for what happens to them. They are not helping victims, and they're not helping anyone witnessing the aftermath of what happened to victims. They're teaching people that they have no agency in their lives, that they should do whatever they want regardless of risk because muh rights, and that they should wallow in agency-free victimhood instead of trying to prevent being victimized, again or for the first time. By the way, that makes those "allies" worthless, empty virtue-signaling cunts. Fuck all of them.
Plenty of people are victims of crime through no fault of their own. Plenty of people literally couldn't have done anything more to prevent what happened to them. But far more could have been more careful, and far more got into trouble at least partially because they weren't cautious. Lying and pretending that's not true isn't helping them. Hammering on their fuck ups after the fact won't change the past, it's true, but it might change behavior in the future. For the victim and especially for everyone else watching and listening.
The world is a dangerous place, and there are a lot of dangerous people in it. It's that way whether I say it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether or not people choose to focus on it or to brush the ugly truth aside to deliver asinine statements into the void about what "should" be. So behave accordingly, and do everything you can to encourage other people to behave accordingly. We all have the agency and responsibility to minimize our own risk in many potentially dangerous situations, and it's important for people to know that because the goal here is to minimize the number of people who are victimized.
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I do understand where you're coming from, but trying to teach her a "lesson" about her behavior after the fact is a moot point. The horse already left that stable. I really doubt she's going to frat parties and getting blackout drunk these days. I don't think anyone here would disagree that getting blackout drunk around people you don't know is a great idea.
Do I think women and men should be better educated in knowing what environments might make them more at risk for sexual assault? Certainly. Do I think we should try to second-guess victims for "being where they shouldn't" after a sexual assault? No.
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I welcome whatever ratings I get. Those who minimize the whole finger banging as < Brock no put his pee or in= no rape really don't get the idea of bodily autonomy. Sure, you shouldn't go walking in a bad neighborhood at night with your expensive watch hanging out. Does that mean you should have a foreign object forcibly put into your body without your knowledge or consent?
I'm pretty sick of the perception of a person putting themselves at risk of robbery as somehow the same as a woman walking alone at night. A robbery victim may lose money, get hurt, but unless it's a bizarre case of something more than robbery, I doubt he'll have foreign objects pushed into him, biological contaminants introduced into his system, possible pregnancy, possibly being ostracized or ejected from family or community...
Yeah, you should pay attention to where you walk at night. But to equate rape to mugging? Fuck you. And not nicely. Fuck you like someone jabbing you with a dirty needle while you're asleep on your pal's couch to see if you wake up. It's no big deal, right?
I'm pretty sick of the perception of a person putting themselves at risk of robbery as somehow the same as a woman walking alone at night. A robbery victim may lose money, get hurt, but unless it's a bizarre case of something more than robbery, I doubt he'll have foreign objects pushed into him, biological contaminants introduced into his system, possible pregnancy, possibly being ostracized or ejected from family or community...
Yeah, you should pay attention to where you walk at night. But to equate rape to mugging? Fuck you. And not nicely. Fuck you like someone jabbing you with a dirty needle while you're asleep on your pal's couch to see if you wake up. It's no big deal, right?
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You are a dumb person for walking down a dark alley late at night with a wad of cash in your hand, but, find me the guy who knocked you down and took it and I'll convict his ass of robbery all the same.
I was on the jury of a person who had scammed six figures out of another person by flimsy identity theft. (pretended to be their long-distance boyfriend who just needed a little cash to help them get their life together and then they'd move in with them, naturally, the "little cash" was never enough, and they just needed a little more.... and this lady eventually, bit by bit, gave them her entire life savings) Was she stupid because she ignored a bunch of red flags? Yes. But she wasn't the one on trial, and "My victim was just too dumb to have not been asking for it" is not a criminal defense, so they got 10 years for theft by deception.
The only thing better than getting justice for crimes against you is being smart enough that you never get victimized in the first place if you can help it.
And the defendant's behavior throughout this case has been enough to convince me that if you feel his actions didn't justify a jailing, he was going to get there eventually..... the totality of it makes it clear he has no concept of right and wrong once his hormones get to raging....
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That's something I really don't get about this. What is the book supposed to be about?
Her horrible rape? Her life wasn't exactly the fucking Kite Runner. If I was gonna have to be raped, I'd have to choose her kind. There are much worse rapes in this country every day and certainly much more interesting stories from those kidnapped, trafficked, and/or escaping one of the various shithole countries, especially the ones we have troops fighting in. Certainly bigger and worse rapists and criminals get away with crimes all the time.
Criminal justice? Once again we have people who are actual experts on that who have seen, studied, and experienced a lot more.
The media circus? She was a Jane Doe until she came out publicly.
I guess it's not a dumb career move. Maybe she can get some wine aunts and me too fanatics to buy it, but I can't imagine wanting to read it. Maybe those types will buy it or at least pretend to as social signaling.