Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Soviras]

I thought Funimation's defense was he both was and was not fired because of the investigation, depending on the nuclear decay of the case at that moment.

It's the well known Schrödingers defense. It's both at the same time, until you look at the result. Then it's neither, and you have an undead zombie defense, just like what really happened to that poor cat.

 

[Mister Y]

It's the well known Schrödingers defense.

Oh, they love the Schrödingers defense.
Vic is simultaneously libel proof because he is an untouchable public figure and a well known criminal.
His rep can't be divided because it is both "infinite" and "null" at the same time, don't you know ?
Whatever sticks...

 

[Adach_Ame]

I missed like 10 minutes of Nick's stream because it died halfway, but apparently, he teased he got a phone call, and this mystery person is going to be a guest on the show. Could be Dark Horse Steph?

My guess, on a hilarious note too.

If it is Justin Cook, I'd I would laugh my ass off if he took everyone at Funi outback like old yeller. (Cause remember. Vic went to Justin Cook, and agreed that they were all baseless. Also why is Justin Cook so much in the background of Funi, despite being around the same time entering Funi as Sabat. Like why doesn't he get more roles, DESPITE being THE voice of Yusuke Urameshi)

Imagine, out of no where comes Justin. I know, I know wishful thinking and all.

 

[Scuttle]

Leah Clark (Himiko Toga's VA) chimes in.

States that Funimation can't be liable for anything in the Huber affidavit.

Leah Clark 🔜@GalaxyConLive on Twitter

“@Remiferia FYI, funi didn’t have any “employees” on the production side during the time any of these claims. They weren’t responsible for independent contractors. 🤦🏽‍♀️”

twitter.com

 

[Zǒngtǒng bǐ dēng wànsuì]

While the YouTubers covering the case can be exceptional at times, KickVic doesn't even have a single person willing to make videos. By the way they talk on Twitter, you'd think there would be a massive audience for their takes, but they don't even try. That one lawyer made a single video then went back to Twitter.

Tweets in comparison to videos have a lower profile, consist of only 1 dimension making em carry little to no information, due to their small size meaningful Information is usually scattered over multiple Instances and Instances are much easier buried under a flood of newer tweets, making a debunked tweet exponentially less of a risk for someone than a debunked video would be. Neither does it help that as of late notably powerful ppl have been tweeting highly inaccurate tweets, without them feeling any significant drawbacks from them, leading to a general perception of "tweets, being just tweets". If your on the wrong side of an argument its generally more advisable to make lot of tweets over a longer timespan than to make a single video which would be easily dissectable .

 

[SpiralStars]

Tweets in comparison to videos have a lower profile, consist of only 1 dimension making em carry little to no information, due to their small size meaningful Information is usually scattered over multiple Instances and are much easier buried under a flood of newer tweets, making a debunked tweet exponentially less of a risk for someone than a debunked video would be. Neither does it help that as of late notably powerful ppl have been tweeting highly inaccurate tweets, without them feeling any significant drawbacks from them, leading to a general perception of tweets, being just tweets". If your on the wrong side of an argument its generally more advisable to make lot of tweets over a longer timespan than to make a video which would be easily dissectable .

I'll add something I've said about Twitter. The Character limit is deliberate. It doesn't take many words to accuse somone of something. It takes a lot more words to debunk an accusation. Debunking suffers from Wall of Text problem. By limiting the length, refutations are awkward and accusations have an inherent advantage over debunking. Twitter does this deliberately. They know if they promote drama, they get more clicks and interest.

In a forum, you get the debunking always paired with the accusation. In twitter it's easy to retweet an accusation. If you retweet the rebuttal, it gets separated from the accusation and has little impact unless the retweeter takes extra steps to put both together. Twitter again knows what it is doing and they knowingly give accusations (and this applies to insults too) the advantage over counter arguments and this keeps the drama turned up high for clicks.

Imho, Twitter is deliberately taking steps to maximize discord in social media and the country.

YouTube gives you the space to make a valid argument. A picture being worth a thousand words also helps.

 

[SkyclAdoBsErveR]

I think we can agree a real Hollywood casting of Weeb Wars would look something like this:

Idris Elba - Ty Beard
Ryan Gosling - Nick Rekeita
Zoe Saldaña - Lady Rackets
Hugh Jackman - Vic Mignonia

Leslie Jones - Monica Rial
Nicholas Cage - Ron Toye
Jamie Marchi - Tessa Thompson
Christian Bale - J. Shawn Lemonie
Peter Dinklage - Casey Erik
Carl Benjamin - Chris Sabat

I'm still in favour of Glenn Close to play Ron Toye given his history with beating his partners and animal abuse. She's played the role well once in Fatal Attraction, I'm sure she could do it again.

 

[Zǒngtǒng bǐ dēng wànsuì]

Imho, Twitter is deliberately taking steps to maximize discord in social media and the country.

Skynet would be proud

 

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Leah Clark (Himiko Toga's VA) chimes in.

States that Funimation can't be liable for anything in the Huber affidavit.

Leah Clark 🔜@GalaxyConLive on Twitter

“@Remiferia FYI, funi didn’t have any “employees” on the production side during the time any of these claims. They weren’t responsible for independent contractors. 🤦🏽‍♀️”

twitter.com

"We outsourced those jobs to ourselves, that means we're IMMUNE TO ALL RESPONSIBILITY. Checkmate, Department of Justice." - Someone who is not a laywer

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

Leah Clark (Himiko Toga's VA) chimes in.

States that Funimation can't be liable for anything in the Huber affidavit.

Leah Clark 🔜@GalaxyConLive on Twitter

“@Remiferia FYI, funi didn’t have any “employees” on the production side during the time any of these claims. They weren’t responsible for independent contractors. 🤦🏽‍♀️”

twitter.com

FUCK FRAU WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS!

 

[Scuttle]

"We outsourced those jobs to ourselves, that means we're IMMUNE TO ALL RESPONSIBILITY. Checkmate, Department of Justice." - Someone who is not a laywer

She conveniently tiptoes around the bulk of that original post which was about Sabat having a casting couch, too.

Saying 'Funi aren't responsible for that' is a fucking bizarre hill to die on when you're trying to champion Monica Rial as a martyr for victims of sexual harassment.

 

[ES 195]

Leah Clark (Himiko Toga's VA) chimes in.

States that Funimation can't be liable for anything in the Huber affidavit.

Leah Clark 🔜@GalaxyConLive on Twitter

“@Remiferia FYI, funi didn’t have any “employees” on the production side during the time any of these claims. They weren’t responsible for independent contractors. 🤦🏽‍♀️”

twitter.com

FUNimation isn't responsible for anything that happens at their office even if they're compliant in the crimes and other misdeeds that happen under their roof.

This would be Leah Clark's position.

 

[JamFlowMan]

He appears to specialize in corporate and securities law with an emphasis in contracts. Nobody knows as of yet exactly why he's been brought on board but apparently he's been involved in the case for some period of time before actually entering an appearance

This may have already been brought up, and those more knowledgeable on law feel free to comment or correct, but could this other lawyer be brought on to help with the employee vs independent contractor question?

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

LEAKED messages CONFIRM Monica Rial KNEW about Sabat? Funi? But The FANS and HUBER!

COMIC: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-case-of-the-littlest-umbrella#/ Tip Jar: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=2...

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This is why TUG et all are awesome, despite his tsundere fanbase in the threads here.

It's not like we are tsundere you b-b-baka.

I personally dislike him for the Ego, and Clickbait, and slightly for the whole Using his comic GFM as some kind of proof that he is, better and winning vs the twitter spergs, and because they are twitter spergs you should donate money to it.

 

[Mister Y]

The employee vs contractor stuff is pretty easy to understand.
Your working conditions define your relation with the company, not what is written on your contract.
This is the very concept which prevent people from being abused by companies.

Exemple : You get unlawfuly fired, the contract says "contractor", the court says "nope, employee", the company get rekt.

 

[Zǒngtǒng bǐ dēng wànsuì]

The employee vs contractor stuff is pretty easy to understand.
Your working conditions define your relation with the company, not what is written on your contract.
This is the very concept which prevent people from being abused by companies.
Exemple : You get unlawfuly fired, the contract says "contractor", the court says "nope, employee", the company get rekt.

It's just that the law's actual origin isn't some noble pursuit of justice, its but a Structure born from the desire to solidify ones rule over (lesser) man. You can see it in the way its pillars crumble at the slightest of perturbances.

 

[Zǒngtǒng bǐ dēng wànsuì]

Took a stroll into Funi's offices just now, heard this playing throughout the building's MC system. I think they are nervous.

They will be playing requiem sooner or later.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I think I would rather have Majora's moon fall on me than Monica.

 

[Random Internet Person]

They will be playing requiem sooner or later.

Will everyone curl into the fetal position?

 

[Paddy O' Furniture]

Will everyone curl into the fetal position?

Nah, they'll be comforting each other like those two sisters (I think they were sisters, it's been a decade) and telling each other they did real good. Real good. The best.