Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[ZQThrowAway]

@ZQThrowAway have you ever known Scott Benson or Bethany Hockenberry? Are they pieces of shit like we here on the farms think they are? I'm just curious. You can choose to ignore this question.

I talked to Scott once online. He sucks. But no, I have thankfully never met his obese ass. Woke autists usually have terrible hygiene. I can't even imagine how awful he must smell.

I do think him pivoting from "I survived Alec Holowka" on Medium to tweeting jokes about the new Joker movie, posting screenshots of his bathroom being remodeled, and general commie agitprop is further evidence that he has absolutely no remorse for the death of Alec. Who spends time cracking jokes online after the man who built your career kills himself after you humiliated him? It's abominable. It's inhuman. It's criminal.

 

[George Cuckzunian]

I work in the LA indie gamedev scene (am using a throwaway to avoid doxxing) and have been watching this thread in horror. People need to go to jail for this like Michelle Carter did.

Zoe, Scott, Bethany and the Kotaku, Eurogamer, Polygon, and Vice writers that hang out with them and egged Alec's suicide on? Lock 'em all up on manslaughter charges. This is a criminal conspiracy designed to increase profits and fame at the cost of someone's very existence. To use the woke terminology, it's gangstalking. Crowdsourced murder.

Absolved Mediocrity, I would seriously recommend you get in touch with the RCMP division investigating Alec's death, Your research will be invaluable for the inevitable prosecutions once the truth comes out.

Dude, find another line of work... I mean unless you are making tons of money (I doubt that). LA is a city of failure. There are parts of the country with far more beautiful scenery, far nicer people, and far cheaper living.

I can understand the horror and shock but this is kinda standard ZQ behavior. The shocking thing has been more the people deciding to dance on the dead mans grave for Zoe. This isn't the first time Zoe even #MeTooed someone. She #MeTooed Max Landis, and he told her fuck off and no one really cared. I don't want Quinn to go to jail. I don't even think she was lying per say, just exagerating and changing the definitions of a shitty early 20s relationship.

What will the RCMP do? Zoe is a US citizen. She's covered under the 1st amendment. The only people that could press the matter don't care. Do you have any insight why his sister is throwing him under the bus too? She's not in that scene so I don't see why she'd care.

People support Zoe out of fear. It is truly pathetic to see the mouth-foaming on her behalf. And when you bring this story up with industry connected people with critical thinking skills, they get anxious and change the subject. It's insane how powerful this murderous twat is.

(stuff we already knew)

These are deeply contemptible people, and an inevitable byproduct of the creative arts being hijacked by the untalented, entitled children of global wealth.

At some point isn't it others faults for not speaking up, or seeking the talented like minded people off other projects to form a side project? I know you coder types (assuming thats what you do cause if you were a biz type you'd be doing this in secret by now) can be a bit autistic and all, but self preservation has to kick in sometime.

The wokies love namedropping and kissing her ass, along with her buddies at Kotaku/Polygon, when networking with others. It's really all about money and power. They think Zoe and the game journos can make their crappy Android game famous.

ZQ really does remind me of L. Ron Hubbard. Even when she's not there, her spectre looms over her devotees while everyone else just tries to avoid looking into Medusa's eye.

I think Absolved Mediocrity is actually doing real journalism, unlike the mutants at WIRED who just put out that piece dancing on Alec's grave.

Well if that doesn't say dumb I dunno what does. Sucking up to game journos so your casual mobile game makes it big it like sucking up to machanic weekly to promote your line of car stereos. Sure, technically it is in the same field but the people you are asking to shill for you are less interested in superficial stuff and more interested in performance stuff.

Well since we have a legit dev here might as well ask some stuff:
- Any clue why Alec's sister sold him up the river other than feminism? My theory is they just weren't fond of each other.
-I'm more interested to learn about Scott Benson. This guy is beyond disgusting, and trying to even spin his own narrative of events still shows what a horrid piece of shit he is. Any word on Bethany? These two are more fucked in the head in my opinion. Rumors? Word from others?
-How much time in the work process does each member actually work (coder/artist/writer/ect.) On of the things that bothered me about Scots post was how he complained that Alec would do nothing and claim he was waiting on Scot, and Scot had no clue he was admitting he was the bottleneck in the workflow.
-Let's be real, how many women are looking to fuck their way into a dev house?
-How easy are the chicks?
-How often do you have to go to networking events vs doing real work?
-Why have you stayed an indie dev? it sounds like shit.
-Are major companies trying to stay the fuck away more often after GG drama or did they shrug and not care? From where I stand it looks like they are trying to appease with pushing self publish options while noping the fuck out.
-How many indies go work for a real game dev?
-Did you know Alec at all?
-What is the word amongst other game devs about Alecs suicide?
-Why doesn't on of you 1337 haxor fags just hack her shit and dump it if you are so scared of her?

 

[CatharticShitHead]

I do think him pivoting from "I survived Alec Holowka" on Medium to tweeting jokes about the new Joker movie, posting screenshots of his bathroom being remodeled, and posting DSA agitprop is further evidence that he has absolutely no remorse for the death of Alec. Who spends time cracking jokes online after the man who built your career kills himself after you humiliated him? It's abominable. It's inhuman. It's criminal.

1) we believe that people like Zoe or Scott, truly want to be victims or they believe they are. So that's why Scott put out that statement in which he says 7 hour workdays working with Alec gave him PTSD.

2) as for him just dumping Alec's death into a memory trash can, we think it's because he thinks if he kept going, then everybody would realize what you realized. That he's a woke asshole who treats his friends like shit, and contributes nothing to the indie scene. So he goes back to his old ways of making shitty twitter jokes. As one of us said earlier, he's too fucking stupid to just drop Alec and the situation like that. We think he's going to come back and do something stupid.

 

[TheGuntMobile99]

I talked to Scott once online. He sucks. But no, I have thankfully never met his obese ass. Woke autists usually have terrible hygiene. I can't even imagine how awful he must smell.

I do think him pivoting from "I survived Alec Holowka" on Medium to tweeting jokes about the new Joker movie, posting screenshots of his bathroom being remodeled, and general commie agitprop is further evidence that he has absolutely no remorse for the death of Alec. Who spends time cracking jokes online after the man who built your career kills himself after you humiliated him? It's abominable. It's inhuman. It's criminal.

Is my impression of Zoe's industry supporters being amoral opportunists who know Zoe's shit but defend her for money and power accurate or is the more bleak picture of most of them being indoctrinated soulless automatons more accurate?

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

Here's a archive of Laurie Penny's Zoe Quinn article just in case.

 

[ZQThrowAway]

Dude, find another line of work... I mean unless you are making tons of money (I doubt that). LA is a city of failure. There are parts of the country with far more beautiful scenery, far nicer people, and far cheaper living.

I grew up here. I can't leave. :/

Well since we have a legit dev here might as well ask some stuff:
- Any clue why Alec's sister sold him up the river other than feminism? My theory is they just weren't fond of each other.

I don't know, but reading this thread, it seems clear to me that his sister, while not in gamedev, is a member of the woke intersectional cult. There's a video of her somewhere in this thread of her screaming in the rain on behalf of "survivors."

-I'm more interested to learn about Scott Benson. This guy is beyond disgusting, and trying to even spin his own narrative of events still shows what a horrid piece of shit he is. Any word on Bethany? These two are more fucked in the head in my opinion. Rumors? Word from others?

Scott is an open book with no filter. He'll happily post all of the disgusting shit he believes on his own. If you took away his Twitter account, he'd probably pull an Alec too. These narcissists can't help themselves.

-How much time in the work process does each member actually work (coder/artist/writer/ect.) On of the things that bothered me about Scots post was how he complained that Alec would do nothing and claim he was waiting on Scot, and Scot had no clue he was admitting he was the bottleneck in the workflow.

I mean, this is entirely dependent on the project. What's your budget? How many team members do you have? What are your deadlines? What platforms are you putting the game out on? Are you crowdfunding or working with private investment? It sounds like Alec was a hard worker who believed in putting a good game out on time, while Scott was tantruming because he had to work from 9-4 from the comfort of his own home.

-Let's be real, how many women are looking to fuck their way into a dev house?
-How easy are the chicks?

Ehhh, I stick to fucking women in the film world. They're substantially more attractive.

-How often do you have to go to networking events vs doing real work?

When you're busy on a project, not at all. When you're in between gigs, multiple times a week.

-Why have you stayed an indie dev? it sounds like shit.

I won't for long. It's a business that will crash in the next few years ala the gaming crash of the 80s. I'm moving into video editing, which is also fucked up, but at least doesn't have a fake community that I'm forced to be a part of.

-Are major companies trying to stay the fuck away more often after GG drama or did they shrug and not care? From where I stand it looks like they are trying to appease with pushing self publish options while noping the fuck out.

Yep. That's about right.

-How many indies go work for a real game dev?

Few.

-Did you know Alec at all?

No. But I deeply admired him.

-What is the word amongst other game devs about Alecs suicide?

Basically the opposite of the online wackos, like Celeste's Matt Thornton, defending her. People IRL are disgusted no matter how hard Zoe's buddies at Kotaku, Polygon, and Wired try to spin it.

-Why doesn't on of you 1337 haxor fags just hack her shit and dump it if you are so scared of her?

Good question. I don't know how to hack a thing.

Is my impression of Zoe's industry supporters being amoral opportunists who know Zoe's shit but defend her for money and power accurate or is the more bleak picture of most of them being indoctrinated soulless automatons more accurate?

Both. There are the true believers and then there are the gravy train riders. They're pretty easy to separate because the true believers don't bathe and the gravy trainers know how to work the media.

 

[Absolved Mediocrity]

OK this girl is fucking addicted to twitter jesus....this is just a few damn DAYS ya'll.....
I need to go ahead post these so I can clear off my desktop.
And didn't she mention something about not having internet during this infamous two weeks or am I misremembering.....

Of note is this last one that I expanded (15), and will URL, because apparently one could still find and see her nudes on deviantart while she was with Alec.
And whoever Joakim is, he must have been jerking off to it.
How could he see them at that point without paying is my real question?

deviantart post URL : https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/191276920875401216



EDIT: HOLY FUCK, look at 15. She fucking tweeted her damn phone numbers to some dude.

 

[Bloody bunny]

If you cut lots of the lefty bullshit from the game, it's about a mentally ill person that is trying to reconnect with old friends. This mentally ill person is destructive and mean to others but they don't really mean to be like that.

In the end, the friends stay together and save their friend.

The other characters also have some problems, like fear about future. It's a lot about growing up and how everyone deals with it differently.
Sorry for my autistic english.

The music is also fucking great.

Hmmm, I wonder who the author is that's willing to put Chelsea into the spotlight on Wired...

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Laurie Penny, you sneaky cunt. Turns out it was relevant to have that video of you getting wrecked by a professor a few pages back in this thread, lol. It really is amazing who Chelsea gets to go to bat for her, she really does network with people in amazing ways.
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Why the duck is this cun t working for wi erd? She has n idea a computer works

 

[Stasi]

Tweets n sheet

Not all heroes wear capes, you sir are doing god's work.

This bitch tho...she tweets more that Spoony, fucking hell, put away the phone and go outside once in a while.

 

[TheGuntMobile99]

I grew up here. I can't leave. :/


I don't know, but reading this thread, it seems clear to me that his sister, while not in gamedev, is a member of the woke intersectional cult. There's a video of her somewhere in this thread of her screaming in the rain on behalf of "survivors."


Scott is an open book with no filter. He'll happily post all of the disgusting shit he believes on his own. If you took away his Twitter account, he'd probably pull an Alec too. These narcissists can't help themselves.


I mean, this is entirely dependent on the project. What's your budget? How many team members do you have? What are your deadlines? What platforms are you putting the game out on? Are you crowdfunding or working with private investment? It sounds like Alec was a hard worker who believed in putting a good game out on time, while Scott was tantruming because he had to work from 9-4 from the comfort of his own home.


Ehhh, I stick to fucking women in the film world. They're substantially more attractive.


When you're busy on a project, not at all. When you're in between gigs, multiple times a week.


I won't for long. It's a business that will crash in the next few years ala the gaming crash of the 80s. I'm moving into video editing, which is also fucked up, but at least doesn't have a fake community that I'm forced to be a part of.


Yep. That's about right.


Few.


No. But I deeply admired him.


Basically the opposite of the online wackos, like Celeste's Matt Thornton, defending her. People IRL are disgusted no matter how hard Zoe's buddies at Kotaku, Polygon, and Wired try to spin it.


Good question. I don't know how to hack a thing.


Both. There are the true believers and then there are the gravy train riders. They're pretty easy to separate because the true believers don't bathe and the gravy trainers know how to work the media.

Thanks for the insight. hard to piece together something exactly looking outside in, you also confirmed some other poster's theory that the indie game scene was a daycare for communist rejects of wealthy parents. Did you talk to any of them enough to explain how they reconcile their snobbish disregard for lower classes while preaching Marx? I feel thats a big part of their psychology I'm missing

 

[ZQThrowAway]

Thanks for the insight. hard to piece together something exactly looking outside in, you also confirmed some other poster's theory that the indie game scene was a daycare for communist rejects of wealthy parents. Did you talk to any of them enough to explain how they reconcile their snobbish disregard for lower classes while preaching Marx? I feel thats a big part of their psychology I'm missing

Nah. Why bother? As soon as I started hearing that "Bernie is a right-winger but I guess I'd vote for him" I realized that there was no reasoning with them. They're what a lot of old school lefties refer to as "wreckers." They have a reverse Midas Touch where everything they become a part of turns to diarrhea. A huge portion of them are in the DSA, which is a Maoist cult masquerading as a DemSoc/New Deal Liberal group. I attended a few meetings and was immediately disgusted when starting a food bank for poor people was decried and shouted down as "colonialism." Despicable. A lot of these mutants think that the key to spreading their ideology is through social media and that's it. Total slacktivists. Lazy, entitled rich kids who are mad at their Daddies so they start plastering hammer and sickles everywhere. They think they're winning because their buddies egg them on when, in fact, the general public is disgusted.

 

[Man of the Sea]

@ZQThrowAway

People are giving these indie exceptional individuals too much credit. They aren't powerful or influential. This whole Weinstein analogy pisses me off because conflating these indie fucks as having as much power as Weinstein is fucking absurd. This happened because all these indie devs roll in the same incestuous circles, meaning if you fuck up within these circles, there is no where else to go for support and your chosen career is basically over. You're basically blacklisted from the industry if you are ostracized, and there is very little a person can do to get back into the industry because of how global and online the social circles are. You can't go to any conventions related to the indie dev scene because they are all the same people everywhere, so PAX and GDC are out. You can't move away because those scenes are concentrated in specific areas, and moving out means you will lose all your resources. The news outlets covering indie scene are basically part of the incestuous social circles and are friends with your dev friends and will cover your drama for clicks. Your entire world is basically dead. Look at ProJared for a recent example of exactly this.

Is this about accurate in terms of what the indie scene is like? I just want to confirm that my observations from afar are accurate and not that of a crazy conspiratorial retard.

 

[TheGuntMobile99]

Nah. Why bother? As soon as I started hearing that "Bernie is a right-winger but I guess I'd vote for him" I realized that there was no reasoning with them. A huge portion of them are in the DSA, which is a Maoist cult masquerading as a DemSoc/New Deal Liberal group. I attended a few meetings and was immediately disgusted when starting a food bank for poor people was decried and shouted down as "colonialism." Despicable. A lot of these mutants think that the key to spreading their ideology is through social media. They think they're winning because their buddies egg them on when, in fact, the general public is disgusted.

They actually think they're winning when they just cancelled Contrapoints, Truly Alien bugmen. As to my question I guess anything that inconveniences them personally is colonial imperialism, that fits well into my understanding of them actually

 

[Absolved Mediocrity]

Another batch. Now she isn't tweeting Alec in these days but there IS one in here that is VERY curious.
She posts about some email and wowzers WTF are we reading?

email post URL : https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/189954669886451712



And keep this in mind....we are back around the 11th here and she doesn't seem to be cut off from ANYBODY across this two weeks...MORE so she seems to be using twitter to NETWORK like a motherfucker....she's sewing up "plushies" of Alec's characters for MERCH $$ and rapping about her shit online and just fuckin having a BLAST as she's acting...
There needs to be some MOROSE ASS posts once we get into the second half of April or I'm calling the RCMP right now...

 

[Water-T]

Oh Jesus. All Alec did was be super awkward, misread the situation, and that's it. There's no mention of rape, intercourse, or assault. She hugged him, he got a boner, she wasn't feeling it, he misread her as playing hard to get, then he finally got the point and nothing else happened. If that's a crime, then 80% of the population would be in jail for "rape".

In fact, how can we be even sure that was Alec and not some other dude? The name and photo of the guy in that exchange were covered up.

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

That Zoe Quinn Wired article awoken the Quarter Pounder.

 

[ZQThrowAway]

That Zoe Quinn Wired article awoken the Quarter Pounder.

The article is sooooo fucking bad. I hope WIRED suffers for celebrating a man's suicide and I hope to never see Laurie Penny's hideous face again. The wrath of autistic trolls will be beautiful to watch.

 

[Absolved Mediocrity]

OK
Gotta stop AGAIN, because this one is a smoking CANNON.
SO, she's moving to Canada huh? Telling a buddy like it's part of some decided plan, not because she's being held hostage.
Watching Alec play a video game and tweeting how cool it is? Strange, this is during the RAPEY STUFF time area...

"Flying back for my stuff" URL : https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/189930427463647233
"Watching Alec play Fez" URL : https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/189900868416581633




EDIT: I think I put the first image in this series by mistake, I have no idea what that one tells us...I was going too fast I think.

 

[George Cuckzunian]

I grew up here. I can't leave. :/

Yes you can. Even if you need to stay close and wanna live in a big city Seattle, Phoenix, Las Vegas, etc. are all a few hours away. Maybe LA is cooler than I think. It just sounds like every co-worker you have is a lunitic.

I won't for long. It's a business that will crash in the next few years ala the gaming crash of the 80s. I'm moving into video editing, which is also fucked up, but at least doesn't have a fake community that I'm forced to be a part of.

I mean for indies maybe. I don't think a game crash will ever come because a good game always sells. I think the indie market will just see more and more support and funding dry up with no one bothering to waste the hard drive space to play their game.

Basically the opposite of the online wackos, like Celeste's Matt Thornton, defending her. People IRL are disgusted no matter how hard Zoe's buddies at Kotaku, Polygon, and Wired try to spin it.

Dude, tell me there are sane people left in "the industry". I can't believe all of them have gone this fucking crazy based on law of averages alone. That said, seems like the people vocal against him now are the same people

2nd round of questions. Thank you for answering.
-Why not find another line of work? The skills in making a video game should translate pretty well in other fields, and lord knows defense contractors and gov jobs are nice gigs.
-Who is cool in the indie scene? You make it sound like everyones a lunatic.
-You been doing game dev a long time?
-I was wondering if you can go into detail about their lifestyles. I remember hearing stuff like how they'd pile 3 to a 1 bedroom apartment
-How big is relationship drama?
-Are people still fucking for coverage or did all that get shut down with #MeToo?
-How many accresses you know have #MeToo stories?
-Are the people locals or did they all show up to LA expecting to make it big?
-What are other indie heavy cities like?
-Any behind the scenes drama about game shows? Zoe got kicked out of every canadian game dev jam because she caused too much drama.
-How many real sexual preditors are in the game dev scene pretending to be a male feminist? Any specific ones?
-Who are the shittiest ones you know or people you know work with?
-How much are these people usually making? Zoe seems to be this God amongst the plebs, yet what she makes in a month is kinda a joke.
-Seriously no one in game development has any sympathy for Alec? Not even some people here and there? I know you have to hide your power level and all, but you think some pockets of people would be saying kind things. Are people getting yelled at for refusing to dance on the grave?

 

[ElAbominacion]

Dude, find another line of work... I mean unless you are making tons of money (I doubt that). LA is a city of failure. There are parts of the country with far more beautiful scenery, far nicer people, and far cheaper living.

Just uh, didn't Vic Mignona sue a bunch of people for rape allegations? That shit isn't covered by the 1st Amendment as much as it might be on its face. Especially not if the evidence leads to the implication this was done with tortious malfeasance as a goal.