TCPA Hearing 9/6/19 - Marchi ran from the Law, TI crumbles, conspiracy still on the table, and collective autism from all sides.

[Palpatine]

With actual level-headed people reporting on what went down, things make a lot more sense.

Chupp seems to be sensible, rather than exceptional.

Except that TCPA should not stay discovery abuse, otherwise everyone can just refuse to do discovery on TCPA.

 

[Padoru]

Underestimate people at your own risk.

pretty sure nobody here actually "underestimated" Sam. Everybody kept saying he was the only competent lawyer on the defendants side from the start.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Doesn't make any sense. Someone commits TI and person is publicly dropped. That person needs to hire/pay a lawyer to threaten legal actions; gets reinstated with an altered contract......therefore there was no TI? Auh-ma-zing.

 

[LobotomizedFerret]

The joke was kickvic people were shitting on Nick for being a strip mall lawyer in the past

Still applies, I think.

 

[Vampy]

I just got here, how's it going down for Vic?

Could have gone better but the case is not lost, memes aside.
Marchi's lawyer was really good.

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

damn this thread is funny to read now
last time i saw so much desparation and cope at once was when hillary lost to trump lmao

I know the Schadenfreude was great. This type of lolz is the best I've gotten all WeebWars.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

What I am going to assert real quick is that one thing is clear: Chupp fucked up and now is going to get exposed to his collegues to be a massive exceptional individual that doesn't know how to make rulings because he let TI go on even Ron Toye who undeniably did it. There is no way for him to salvage his reputation from that beyond making a written opinion that basically says he rescinds his prior ruling regarding it and apologizes for the confusion. The others you can technically make arguments but Ty had the dms on the books long before this hearing and for Chupp to either make a invalid ruling or to ignore evidence will let ty win on appeals and appeals are a good way to slap egg on a judge's face without insulting them directly.

tldr: Appeals Court likely to wonder why the hell Chupp ruled/acted the way he did and simply conclude he's an idiot and overrule his own rulings. Something most judge's try to avoid except judge lolcow chupp.

Good points. Lolcow Chupp is totally 0wn3d. All the other judges are gonna be laughing when they see what he did to Broly!! You should make a thread on him actually because he is such shitlib.

 

[BrandedEagle]

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Gee Chubbs, 25ish people is all it takes to get public figure status huh.

Like I said. Chupp is probably a lolcow and once the appeals court calls him dumb he's going to chimp out. Especially if this is what his opinion on what it takes to reach public figure status is.

Actually, they may have even more scathing words than I originally predicted.... think its time to change sights from moron to chupp for when the appeal drops.

 

[Random Internet Person]

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Gee Chubbs, 25ish people is all it takes to get public figure status huh.

So many lonely days drinking scotch all by his lonesome.

Lemoine and Sabat may have offered some consluts. But other than than, nah.

Just a stretch, but hey, it's always a possibility!

As I said, Casey offered Chupp bourbon, scotch, and everclear with a note that said “You might need this”.

 

[Mr. Sandwiches]

Sam deserves a round of applause, most competent lawyer, didn't sperg out on twitter or anything, consistently fucked with Ty, really did a great job

And to think, it all came from some strip-mall lawyer, what a dude. Sam Johnson did his client right.

Truly. It seems like as Marchi wobbled and fucked up and poured more gasoline onto everything, Sam managed to absorb all of it with fast-acting and diligent work. The dude even barred discovery on Marchi and she never saw the light of a deposition room. Dude killed it.

 

[ChodeMonkey]

The few remaining autistic spergs in this thread still miraculously drag down the overall improved quality now that we have more than the ramblings of a deaf twitter lolyer

 

[fat ugly sped]

I just got here, how's it going down for Vic?

Vic apparently lost at the TCPA hearing for a bunch of shit that doesn't matter much (Marchi, tortious interference claims), and we're waiting up to 30 days for Chupp to give an opinion on the stuff that does (defamation, especially by Funimation).

 

[Duke-Diggler]

To be honest, as the sperginess has subsided, I do admit that I actually have some respect for Marchi's lawyer. From what I gather, he did seem level-headed and knows what he's doing.

Next time I hire a lawyer, it'd be a strip mall lawyer.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Gotta side with the Judge on this too. BHBH had time to get information from the prospective conventions to corroborate the TI, but he instead relied on inference which ultimately cost him a TI claim

 

[TexOffender]

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Never diss a strip mall lawyer.

Office in a strip mall is like a prison tat for lawyers.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I've had more people on my bar mitzvah, guess I'm famous now?

These are fair points

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Aren't damages presumed in Vic's case?

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

It's literally just another friday case for the judge.

As my lawyer once told me, "Making Judge is seen as retirement by lawyers". They don't go there wanting to work. You're basically impinging on their retirement time so they're salty as fuck right out of the gate.

I had a lawsuit, some crazy bitch tried to steal music I wrote. The music was in my name, copyrighted in my name, etc. She still tried to claim she wrote it. The case went to a supreme court. The court's automated system dismissed my case by accident. No good. I can't go into specifics but the details of my case were that it was actually illegal for it to be outright dismissed. It had to be seen and ruled by a judge.

My lawyer contacts the judge. Judge: "It's dismissed - let it stay dismissed"
My lawyer contacts the judge a second time telling him he has to un-dismiss it and look at it. Judge: "I said it's dismissed".
Third time my lawyer contacts, judge doesn't even respond. Has his assistant reply, "Not sure why you're pushing this. Judge says that even if you win, he's not going to award you any money so if you're looking for money, go away".

I wasn't looking for money - I needed the judge to rule in my favor so that the chick couldn't come after me again.

Final time my lawyer threatened to file some kind of lawyer thing where you declare no-confidence in the judge you've been assigned. "This is gonna piss him off, but he'll look at the case" my lawyer said. Sure enough, Judge blows a fit but agrees to look over the case because if the no-confidence thing goes through it'll look really bad for him because he wasn't supposed to dismiss the case to begin with.

Judge rules in my favor (as expected), Refuses to give me damages (which the specific law concerning my situation said I was entitled to). Throws us out of his courtroom. No matter, I got what I needed which was for him to rule in my favor.

Outside, I mentioned to my lawyer that I never saw someone get so pissed that they had to do their job. My lawyer says, "The legal system is broken pretty badly. It needs to be fixed but it's not gonna get fixed". After that lawsuit I completely adjusted my view of judges. Now, everything makes a lot more sense and I don't get worked up over it.

 

[Monkey Prick]

Like I said. Chupp is probably a lolcow and once the appeals court calls him dumb he's going to chimp out. Especially if this is what his opinion on what it takes to reach public figure status is.

Actually, they may have even more scathing words than I originally predicted.... think its time to change sights from moron to chupp for when the appeal drops.

Please shut the fuck up and go drink an ovaltine or something.

 

[BrandedEagle]

Good points. Lolcow Chupp is totally 0wn3d. All the other judges are gonna be laughing when they see what he did to Broly!! You should make a thread on him actually because he is such shitlib.

I dunno if he is a liberal. Just that its incredibly dumb to say "to reach public figure status the courtroom must have 25 people in it" followed by "despite the fact Ron texted the kamehacon owner to cancel vic's contract and the law clearly says that this is TI, i'm gonna say he's off the hook" followed even further by "legal definitions don't matter". These are going to make any sane judge question the sanity of the judge that made that decision (like the ruling for that one rapist that god a massively reduced sentence did).

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

There's a whole ton of questionable shit from all sides.

Jamie and Sam earned their win, but now they can shut up and leave unless they want to go for round two.

Ty massively fucked up. If he isn't capable of holding up he should get off the horse. He needed to be more assertive. That much is true even if people are reading into it and sperging about it.

Lemonhead's aggression helped here even if he had numerous exceptional moments. But it might bite him in the ass if this moves forward.

Chupp is reasonable in some aspects but hmm in others.