Orbiter Jessica vs The Physiotherapist Corp - 04Sep2019 » YANIV, Jessica v H MORRIS & N SZUCS PHYSIOTHERAPIST CORP

[Cynically Insane]

I can't help but wonder if his self-proclaimed brain tumor will play a role in the proceedings. Is (was) there or is (was) there not a brain tumor? If there is a tumor is could be responsible for everything. If there is not then JY is a wicked liar with no credibility about all matters health especially subjective ones like my arm hurts even though there is no physical or radiological signs of damage.

 

[s0mbra]

Actually, the bed snaps in two

 

[Alba gu brath]

Sounds like it would be easy to argue he/her/it had a seizure and fell on to the bed which caused it to break.

Even then, if he has been diagnosed with some form of convulsive disorder, and isn't taking his meds if any have been given, then it's fault for putting himself in a situation where harm could fall on him. When the folk made the bed, dinnae reckon they accounted for the land whale spazzing out like some possessed in the design plan.

 

[Short Stack]

I want the details of the "broken bed"?

The way it sounds is as if the bed broke in two dropping lardass to the floor.

The reality could be much less severe.

I seriously doubt that they would have just told him to use another bed if he had hit the floor.

I believe they would have had him checked out by medical if he had hit the floor.

Remember in his statement, he said he continued with the therapy treatment.

No complaints then?

 

[Chicken Picnic]

If he had a seizure, surely the physio would have seen it and told him? This makes 0 sense as usual.

Seizures that cause a lot of memory loss are usually enough to cause visible symptoms. Ones that don't, like absences where you just kinda space out for a few seconds, are still noticeable if you know what you're looking for. Seizures can be triggered by stress, but just a bit of a fright? Unlikely.

If he also recovered straight away after the seizure as he is claiming, it is likely it was an absence seizure. All other seizure types that cause a loss of consciousness and memory loss usually have a period of time afterwards where the person needs to rest. The physio would not have been able to continue the therapy treatment if Yaniv had actually had a seizure like that. Obviously the likelyhood is Yaniv doesn't even have epilepsy, so this is all just entertaining the idea for theory purposes.

So, what I'm saying is it's likely absolutely bullshit, but that's not a surprise. Not to mention if he fell through a bed and hurt himself, why would any medical professional not check over their patient and make sure they're ok? Let alone a physiotherapist, who will be trying to assess your ability to move etc.

None of this adds up, I look forward to the hearing if it happens to see how the company respond.

 

[wabbits]

His complaint reads like he climbed onto an adjustable treatment table and, rather than ending up lying with his head higher than his feet or lying flat, the table dropped his head down lower than his feet to some degree.

Haven't found a table design that makes it seem like a possibility (addition: spoiler below has one or two) unless he climbed on with his ass so close to the head end of the table that his head was actually sticking up beyond the end of the table - y'know, like your head's above the back of a chair and if the chair tipped back, you'd see the wall behind the chair.



He talked endlessly about a brain tumor starting in May this year - it was his big ongoing drama at the time of the PT incident - but he's been quiet about that for awhile. Null's IRL source said it wasn't a tumor - it's hydrocephalus. See the Munchie thread for more about that. He's claimed to have seizures, concussions, and memory lapses before the PT incident, too.

What's more germane to the PTs' defense is that in the days after the incident, his social media shows him going about his business with no complaints of back pain. He complains about plenty of other shit - like hot flashes - but nothing to do with the PT incident and he's out posing for selfies with Mounties and flitting around a beauty pageant breakfast like everything's fine, better even than before the incident when he was at the hospital every day and using a scooter or wheelchair.

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Spoiler: further table research

So here, the end with the divot for the head is lower than the end for the feet. If a PT didn't tighten the right knob enough before our pretty princess reclined, he could have ended up seeing more wall than expected.


Here, the drop-down end's meant to be where your feet rest, but maybe...?

 

[Alba gu brath]

If he had a seizure, surely the physio would have seen it and told him? This makes 0 sense as usual.

Seizures that cause a lot of memory loss are usually enough to cause visible symptoms. Ones that don't, like absences where you just kinda space out for a few seconds, are still noticeable if you know what you're looking for. Seizures can be triggered by stress, but just a bit of a fright? Unlikely.

Yeah, imagine a doc or someone near enough to the medical profession seeing something like that happen and going like: " Welp, bugger that bed, haz another. " Nah, completely bullshit.

The absence wouldn't account for the bed seizure, you're more looking at myoclonus, but if he hasn't fully gone unconscious, then you don't suffer from memory feckery as he's claiming. So yeah, insert bullshit alert right here.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

The absence wouldn't account for the bed seizure, you're more looking at myoclonus, but if he hasn't fully gone unconscious, then you don't suffer from memory feckery as he's claiming. So yeah, insert bullshit alert right here.

Myoclonic seizures don't cause loss of consciousness though. They are just muscle twitching. The only reason I suggested absences was because it's the only thing I could think of that could be missed by a medical professional not experienced with seizures, as they can be mistaken for daydreaming if you're not looking out for them.

Yaniv is claiming he had a seizure after the bed collapsed, so it doesn't have to have been something causing convulsions, just something causing memory loss, which only happens, as you said, with loss of consciousness.

 

[Dr Yaniv]

I've done a text transcription of the NOTICE of CLAIM originally posted. BCO is really horrible, they are slow to get shit up, and your session expires before they post everything. It's a money-pit.

On June 26, 2019 I had an appointment booked for physiotherapy at Surrey Hwy 10 Physiotherapy & Massage Clinic located at 15240 56 Ave #106 in Surrey, BC. I came in with my mobility scooter and was told to go to the first bed when you enter the treatment area. I was told by the physiotherapist to sit and lie down on the bed. I was then told to scootch back. When I began to do this, the bad cracked and broke in two. My lower back was still on the bed with my head and upper back facing towards the floor. I believe I received a seizure during this time as I do not remember what happened after the bed broke. However, I was in significant pain and all the physiotherapist said was "oops the bed is broken lets go to the other bed." I did then proceed with the booked physiotherapy treatment (For balance) on the other bed, however, I did not feel well nor comfortable during this physiotherapy appointment.

To this day, I experience significant pain in my hip and lower back and the pain has not subsided. I have spoken with Howard, the owner of this clinic to which he admitted that this incident did in fact occur to how I describe it, and also admitted that this is negligence of the physiotherapist not checking the equipment before a patient uses it. Due to the negligence on Surrey Hwy 10 Physiotherapy & Massage Clinic and this physiotherapist, I am enduring extreme pain to which treatment is required. Due to the fact that there doesn't seem to be a near-future resolution in sight is also reason for the substantial damages claimed due to negligence. They simply to exercise reasonable care for my health and safety.

The above is an SEO optimized text transcription for searchiness, so it can be readily indexed by search engines. I'll get a searchable PDF up once I've patched the text over.

 

[Alba gu brath]

Exactly, with the absence hitters, think five, ten seconds. Hell if it's a 'bad' yin you're looking at maybe half a minute. Haven't encountered anyone whose had a loss of memory to those annoying buggers, dinnae even reckon it's possible.

 

[wabbits]

Myoclonic seizures don't cause loss of consciousness though. They are just muscle twitching. The only reason I suggested absences was because it's the only thing I could think of that could be missed by a medical professional not experienced with seizures, as they can be mistaken for daydreaming if you're not looking out for them.

Yaniv is claiming he had a seizure after the bed collapsed, so it doesn't have to have been something causing convulsions, just something causing memory loss, which only happens, as you said, with loss of consciousness.

He posted in April of this year that he believed he's had absence seizures throughout his life and tried to hide them. There's maybe some (or a lot of) play-acting here since he's fangurling a Miss Canada who spoke on the subject. On June 21 - five days before the PT incident - he underwent brain MRIs. Results not shared on SM.

He's since talked about syncope, collapsing, mini-strokes, not being able to feel the lower half of his body at times, and of course the brain tumor - cancerous or not and unworthy of so much as a consultation with a neurosurgeon until 2020. Check out his video of a seizure if you haven't already - keep your eye on his phone.

 

[KeepHopeAlive]

He did not have a seizure. He's lying.

"I believe I received a seizure ..." is nowhere even close to a truthful statement.

"I believe ...." has no reliable commitment to it.

"I received a seizure..." is passive language, again no reliable commitment to truth.

Johnny boi is a liar, but not a good one.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

He posted in April of this year that he believed he's had absence seizures throughout his life and tried to hide them. There's maybe some (or a lot of) play-acting here since he's fangurling a Miss Canada who spoke on the subject. On June 21 - five days before the PT incident - he underwent brain MRIs. Results not shared on SM.

He's since talked about syncope, collapsing, mini-strokes, not being able to feel the lower half of his body at times, and of course the brain tumor - cancerous or not and unworthy of so much as a consultation with a neurosurgeon until 2020. Check out his video of a seizure if you haven't already - keep your eye on his phone.

Oh I saw that video alright, I shared my thoughts somewhere in the thread on it lol.

Seizures are diagnosed through an EEG, if he wants to prove he had them that's what he needs to share. An MRI proves nothing even if he had posted the results.

 

[wabbits]

Seems likely if they invested resources in MRIs, they did a full EEG study as well for a patient complaining of seizures.

 

[sperginity]

This is his second bed claim, the first being that workmen got on his bed that he got from Yitzhak and broke it.

Note also that he himself used the word "seizure" for himself in an official public document. I wonder if anyone's forwarded it to the Canadian DMV equivalent.

And ETA, 8840 210nd St Langley 505 is a UPS store maildrop https://www.madvix.com/CA/Langley/531020210242988/The-UPS-Store-Langley. A maildrop that replaced his Vancouver one?

Screen of what this potato said, taken from the pdf

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Usually when people are permanently in pain from an injury caused by others they sue in civil court since 35K is a pittance for that kind of injury. I think he is using small claims so that he can try to fool someone, and it is more informal than civil court, but not so much that you can just make shit up and get paid. The judge is going to be way less kind to him than the tribunal members. They are going to ask for medical evidence from a doctor, and he won't have it, so it will become hearsay for him to claim any specific injury that has to be diagnosed via a doctor. I am sure he signed some kind of form that releases them from liability for this type of shit (if it even happened). I expect this to get tossed out.

I hope they counter sue jon for being such a fucking clumsy fat piece of shit that he broke their expensive table.

 

[wabbits]

Usually when people are permanently in pain from an injury caused by others they sue in civil court since 35K is a pittance for that kind of injury. I think he is using small claims so that he can try to fool someone, and it is more informal than civil court, but not so much that you can just make shit up and get paid. The judge is going to be way less kind to him than the tribunal members. They are going to ask for medical evidence from a doctor, and he won't have it, so it will become hearsay for him to claim any specific injury that has to be diagnosed via a doctor. I am sure he signed some kind of form that releases them from liability for this type of shit (if it even happened). I expect this to get tossed out.

I hope they counter sue jon for being such a fucking clumsy fat piece of shit that he broke their expensive table.

I think he's hoping their insurance company will just offer him a settlement. Dude's having to sell his bras on FB Marketplace, y'know? Tough times for our dainty diva.

Yaniv might settle very low, though, if the PTs' lawyer announced they'd subpoena Yaniv's social media content to show how he was conducting himself after the incident and provide the court with Rebel videos of him chasing his runaway walker and wailing on a reporter with his cane.

 

[Cynically Insane]

I would really love to hear the therapist's version of what happened. Not the court document version, but the casual sitting at a bar telling stories version. I bet it is hilarious.

I wonder if he rammed the bed with his scooty puff compromising its integrity before he hopped on.

 

[pr3nt177]

I can't help but wonder if his self-proclaimed brain tumor will play a role in the proceedings. Is (was) there or is (was) there not a brain tumor? If there is a tumor is could be responsible for everything. If there is not then JY is a wicked liar with no credibility about all matters health especially subjective ones like my arm hurts even though there is no physical or radiological signs of damage.

He was perving as far back as 2009 (iirc) that's some brain tumour.

Usually when people are permanently in pain from an injury caused by others they sue in civil court since 35K is a pittance for that kind of injury. I think he is using small claims so that he can try to fool someone, and it is more informal than civil court, but not so much that you can just make shit up and get paid. The judge is going to be way less kind to him than the tribunal members. They are going to ask for medical evidence from a doctor, and he won't have it, so it will become hearsay for him to claim any specific injury that has to be diagnosed via a doctor. I am sure he signed some kind of form that releases them from liability for this type of shit (if it even happened). I expect this to get tossed out.

I hope they counter sue jon for being such a fucking clumsy fat piece of shit that he broke their expensive table.

This freak phones for an ambulance at the drop of a hat so I can't see him simply carrying on as he claims if this "accident" really happened. He would have been whining all over the web for starters just like he's always done with his other "health" scares. It's all BS. His pockets must be empty, maybe he's no longer confident with getting a good Chrimbo present from BCHRT.

I hope it does get to court where he is made to provide medical evidence, perhaps have an independent medical and for him to face real court conditions. Can't wait to hear him accuse another lawyer of not being qualified.

 

[wabbits]

This freak phones for an ambulance at the drop of a hat so I can't see him simply carrying on as he claims if this "accident" really happened. He would have been whining all over the web for starters just like he's always done with his other "health" scares. It's all BS. His pockets must be empty, maybe he's no longer confident with getting a good Chrimbo present from BCHRT.

I hope it does get to court where he is made to provide medical evidence, perhaps have an independent medical and for him to face real court conditions.

That's a really good point. No waaaaaaambulance after an actual injury? And even if he scooted home all pained and writhing, Miriam wouldn't have called EMTs?

 

[pr3nt177]

That's a really good point. No waaaaaaambulance after an actual injury? And even if he scooted home all pained and writhing, Miriam wouldn't have called EMTs?

Exactly. I reckon he's got home and realised he could get money out of someone.

If it's a professional organisation and there was any chance of injury then they'd cover themselves by advising he got checked out there and then before touching him and re-scheduling an appt. I can't see anyone worth their professional salt carrying on as though nothing had happened.