TCPA Hearing 9/6/19 - Marchi ran from the Law, TI crumbles, conspiracy still on the table, and collective autism from all sides.

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Nah, the TCPA hearing is there to say "OK, we need to know you're not full of shit, so put up or shut up."
He's supposed to come with the evidence; which is the whole point of anti-SLAPP laws. They're to expedite defamation suits, they're there to filter out ungrounded suits. Why? Because the Texas legislature felt that the benefits of preventing ungrounded anti-SLAPP suits exceeded the costs of making legitimate defamation suits harder to win.

Which is bullshit because that just increases the costs for common man to access the legal system in the same way being sued for calling some guy a cuck increases the costs on the common man. But Texas can do whatever they want since that's how they keep voting.

 

[MagicalHopStep]

I'm still several pages back, catching up, but since people are clearly upset, here is a gif of a big cat in a little bowl.

All hope is not lost yet, guys. Hang in there.

 

[Pope of Degeneracy]

I'm paraphrasing because I can't rewind on DLive for some reason, but basically Rackets said that the TI dismissal was shocking because Ty had them "dead to rights" with the contract and the KC text messages from Toye, but also that the defamation sticking to MoRon and Funi were the most valuable claims, and those are the one that stuck.

Also, big ups to Gator for streaming right now, I feel that helps everyone's anxiety.

 

[blackbat4]

It's almost like Ty prepared for a TCPA hearing...not a trial.

 

[Duke-Diggler]

When people fear their livelyhoods can be destroyed by a randy's words and followers, some people will go maximum edge. I hope this doesn't get dismissed on October, even if the exceptional assmad of some ISWV people will be funny.

I'm really starting to lose the ability to neutrally laugh at speds; I'm starting to think I'm taking this war way too seriously.

Don't be, because twitter is not reality.

Being banned from twitter was really refreshing for me. I started visiting other websites and getting connected with people who actually have the same interests as me.

Twitter is the poison of all social interactions. Get off twitter.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I had known vaguely about the farms beforehand but this whole situation is what made me actively check out the site, then lurk for several months before making an account. I very much appreciate the site's philosophy of just being an observer keeping track of bizarre situations or people, was never a fan of people that actively throw themselves into the mudpile.

Same here. I wasn't excusing it or anything, just stating the obvious, really.

 

[CountSarmale]

Well this was a disaster. The case isn't lost, but could have been a lot better. I've had my worries about Ty from his last appearance on Nick's show. Frankly, I'm not impressed with his and performance.
From letting himself be constantly be pushed around by opposing counsel, to failing to present all the evidence to the court because of the half-assery with the prima facie case. Which led to losing the TI causes and letting one defendant get away. Sorry Nick, seems you bet too much on the wrong horse. After all the free autistic archiving from kf and with your opponents constantly shooting themselves in the foot, how do you fuck up so badly?

 

[The Fair Lady]

So Ty fucked up, the judge is a fussy asshole and Marchi is off the hook but we all saw that coming so who cares. That about cover it?

It’s funny how KV thinks this is the end. Let them have their little victory for now.

 

[Tard]

it's really annoying with the amount of "it's all over now I'm leaving" going on
Like the only thing that was lost was TI and even then MoRon are still on the hook for social conspiracy from what I'm reading and alot of shit can be appealed
I'm not saying Vic will win but too many people just throw a shitfit the minute it doesn't go ideally

 

[ES 195]

It's not odd at all, looking at the context.

Ty couldn't provide evidence beyond inference that Rial and Toye committed TI. He stated that the reason he couldn't provide proof was because of the discovery stay, and the Judge didn't buy it.

I can see the Judge's point. There was plenty of time before the stay to have gathered the proper evidence for it. The stay just seems to show that Ty was dragging his heels with it. Good job to team Moron for pulling that shit.
But from what I've seen here there was new evidence popping up so frequently that the stay really did fuck Ty. I'm glad they can appeal that decision or whatever.
The defamation claim without TI feels weird and almost pointless, like it's just suing for petty reasons instead of actual financial damages. But then again it's the American court system and that's what it's best at so I shouldn't be surprised.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Can I just say, I'm really taking a shine to this HerExcellency character.

In about the same way you take a shine to someone you feeds you after you barely escape a desert.

 

[10SorrowfulObject]

I get the feeling that Ty has faced TCPA hearings before and won with this same level of evidence he had here. I think the judge is being unreasonable.

He hasn't. He's never litigated defamation before.

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

Twitter is the poison of all social interactions. Get off twitter.

Sir you seemed to misspelled tumbler, even if it's dead, point still stands.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

So Ty fucked up, the judge is a fussy asshole and Marchi is off the hook but we all saw that coming so who cares. That about cover it?

It’s funny how KV thinks this is the end. Let them have their little victory for now.

It's not that simple.

Ty went in with a case for TCPA, and providing a prima facie case. The Judge wanted specifics and asked for a standard of evidence that went beyond a prima facie showing and refused to consider anything less

 

[Reverend]

That would be a valid question if Ty was being unpersoned... no one's asking for that.

There are folks in this thread that are going balls to the wall "SKY IS FALLING" and people are hand wringing like it's the end of the goddamn world.

For those of you that think this one single solitary court appearance is the end: It's not, this isn't Law and Fucking Order on TV, these cases go on and on and on.

This is a goddamn campaign and not a some silly lil one and done battle.

Think of it as this is the first time both sides have met in war and , like the old saying goes, once the enemy is met all battle plans go out the window. Neither LemonJello nor EmperorTy knew what to make of Chupp and that's what cost both sides heavily. Some things worked out, others didn't, in the end the court proceeding will go on as they must.

 

[SpiceWeasel21]

It would have been unusual for either extreme (everything tossed or everything sustained) to have come to pass in the hearing. Nor was it out of the question for Marchi to get off scot free. But the way the TI stuff went down, I have to admit, is a real head-scratcher.

 

[N1bbaN3rd]

Listening to Nick now - Judge Chupp was basically applying the wrong evidentiary standard to the hearing.
Chupp will probably get reamed on appeal.

 

[Reverend]

It's not that simple.

Ty went in with a case for TCPA, and providing a prima facie case. The Judge wanted specifics and asked for a standard of evidence that went beyond a prima facie showing and refused to consider anything less

Which is a very odd tactic. Is this common? Is this something new as both sides appeared to be unexpected for this.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

well, based off of how things are here, vic was legally unperson'd. well chaps, heres hoping whatever wasnt overturned manages to stick, or we at least discover something else to make fun of

 

[BimWitted]

There are folks in this thread that are going balls to the wall "SKY IS FALLING" and people are hand wringing like it's the end of the goddamn world.

For those of you that think this one single solitary court appearance is the end: It's not, this isn't Law and Fucking Order on TV, these cases go on and on and on.

This is a goddamn campaign and not a some silly lil one and done battle.

Think of it as this is the first time both sides have met in war and , like the old saying goes, once the enemy is met all battle plans go out the window. Neither LemonJello nor EmperorTy knew what to make of Chupp and that's what cost both sides heavily. Some things worked out, others didn't, in the end the court proceeding will go on as they must.

Yeah, no shit... but we're not "eating our own" like SJWs, people are just lowering their opinion of him.