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[Tasty Tatty]

None of these stories would work without the very specific detail of the characters being gay or some madeup identity. I know some stories depend on the gender or even race of the character for the plot, but here, there is no plot besides the characters' identities. If an honest author gets asked what's their novel about, they'd have to say "my main character is gay and xe likes to have sex". And that's it.

And I'm not even remotely surprised because 50 Shades is precisely like this. The first book at least has no plot besides the two characters having sex. A sequence of events is not a plot. This is common among fanfic'ers who can only write short scenes involving the characters having some romantic interaction and mostly talking about it because mot of the action was already written by the original author. Kinda confirms my theory that these people come from writing shitty fanfiction that became popular and that made them believe they could write.

Maybe GRRM had a point saying fanfic is shit.

 

[SnarkySperg]

This can't be a real person. Forget storming Area 51, the real aliens are among us on GoodReads.

Wait. Did...did they say children's books? I hope to god this isn't real.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Wait. Did...did they say children's books? I hope to god this isn't real.

They wanna cash in on the queer children's books market while it's still open, I suppose.

 

[SnarkySperg]

They wanna cash in on the queer children's books market while it's still open, I suppose.

I don't even necessarily care about books explaining the LGBT community in a child-friendly way. They're going to see gay people in their life. I'm far more concerned that Xan is clearly extremely into the kink community (which is technically LGBT+ because fuck everyone I guess) and also has a goal of writing a children's book. You can tell kids that sometimes men like other men. You cannot (or should not at least) tell kids about how those men like to be so kinky they're well into degenerate category.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I don't even necessarily care about books explaining the LGBT community in a child-friendly way. They're going to see gay people in their life.

Which begs the question of whether they're actually needed it or not. Did books explaining children that blacks and women are human and deserve equal rights exist back in the 60s and 70s or children just learned it like everybody else, through experience?

 

[SnarkySperg]

Which begs the question of whether they're actually needed it or not. Did books explaining children that blacks and women are human and deserve equal rights exist back in the 60s and 70s or children just learned it like everybody else, through experience?

You've never met a Fundamentalist Christian have you? Or people who are just hateful to gays. It's one thing to see a gay person and be aware of their existence. It's another to know how to treat them.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

And I'm not even remotely surprised because 50 Shades is precisely like this. The first book at least has no plot besides the two characters having sex. A sequence of events is not a plot. This is common among fanfic'ers who can only write short scenes involving the characters having some romantic interaction and mostly talking about it because mot of the action was already written by the original author. Kinda confirms my theory that these people come from writing shitty fanfiction that became popular and that made them believe they could write.

Maybe GRRM had a point saying fanfic is shit.

He's one to talk, given that he's left his main series effectively abandoned for nearly a decade while publishing what amounts to authorized fanfic in the meantime. I mean, I agree that the vast majority of fanfics are terrible, but (let's be honest) so are the vast majority of published novels, as this thread is demonstrating. At least with fanfiction degeneracy, they don't expect you to pay them to wade through their shitty prose.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

At least with fanfiction degeneracy, they don't expect you to pay them to wade through their shitty prose.

That's true like 90% of the time, now, thanks to cunts who think it's a great idea to self-publish their shitty fanfics. For example:

www.amazon.co.uk/FISH-BOY-Victoria-Hyder-ebook/dp/B01M4NXGWV/
www.amazon.co.uk/Silver-Blood-Victoria-Hyder-ebook/dp/B079T9YHNB/
www.amazon.co.uk/Drowning-Air-Victoria-Hyder-ebook/dp/B07FVRZ1B8/
www.amazon.co.uk/Sweetheart-Victoria-Hyder-ebook/dp/B017I3NRNS/
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MPN69GW

All of these are revised yaoi fanfiction.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

You've never met a Fundamentalist Christian have you? Or people who are just hateful to gays. It's one thing to see a gay person and be aware of their existence. It's another to know how to treat them.

LOL, have you READ any of the "books about gays for kids" out there right now? They are not "be nice to people who are different." They are like...

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[howyadoin]

LOL, have you READ any of the "books about gays for kids" out there right now? They are not "be nice to people who are different." They are like...

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I'm aware that some people slip in fetishes in children's cartoons, but children's picture books? That's a whole new level of degeneracy.

 

[SnarkySperg]

LOL, have you READ any of the "books about gays for kids" out there right now? They are not "be nice to people who are different." They are like...

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Oh god. I'm not gay nor do I have kids, so no, I haven't read them. Why is it so hard to expose kids to the LGBT community without becoming a complete fucking degenerate about it? Ugh. I saw someone say on Twitter that kids need to be exposed to kink to normalize it for when they're adults. I kinda needed a shower after that.

 

[8777BB5]

LOL, have you READ any of the "books about gays for kids" out there right now? They are not "be nice to people who are different." They are like...

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Funny Story: I actually knew somebody who demanded this book be placed in the local library while at the same time demanding the Bill Peet book The Caboose Who Got loose be removed because apparently female cabooses promote the patriarchy (This same person also took issue with the book Did I Forget something? due to it being about an old lady spending the day in the nude (even though you only primarily see her big fat ass and there's always something in the way to prevent you from see her tits or vagina)

 

[Kari Kamiya]

A librarian sent a young family member of mine home with a book that made my eyes pop out--it was about a kid engaging in voyeurism of a teacher she had a crush on WTF, this was given to a ten year old--and I started digging into it. It's a weird world out there right now.

What the fuck?

I got a library story, too. I remember as a kid my mom had checked out a children's book for the sole purpose of drawing clothes or other objects in it because it was about "what if clothes didn't exist?" (or something like that) and it included genitalia of all ages; the most of it I remember is of a grandfather and his grandson taking a shower together (because the overall lesson was that there are certain situations where it's appropriate to be in the nude) and a dejected Santa Clause looking at the reader while the line of naked boys are acting all goofy. All sorts of shitty, weird books get published, and as much as I will forever advocate that you can publish anything you want because book-burning and censorship is heinous, it's books like that and the inserting of kinks into children's books that do make me wonder if there are things that should be policed.

I gotta go throw up very quick, now.

 

[8777BB5]

This book is one of the popular picks at Drag Queen Story Hours for kids age 2 and up. There are some really weird "queer" books for kids out there right now and I wouldn't expect most people to know about it if they aren't in the thick of helping a kid grow up without getting perverted. A librarian sent a young family member of mine home with a book that made my eyes pop out--it was about a kid engaging in voyeurism of a teacher she had a crush on WTF, this was given to a ten year old--and I started digging into it. It's a weird world out there right now.

Was it the one about the kid who watches her teacher go skinny dipping in the backyard pool and eventually one night finds herself going along with her?

 

[Mola Ram]

Was it the one about the kid who watches her teacher go skinny dipping in the backyard pool and eventually one night finds herself going along with her?

I'm sorry, is this a children's book or my adolescent fantasies about my middle school English teacher?

 

[8777BB5]

I'm sorry, is this a children's book or my adolescent fantasies about my middle school English teacher?

It's a Children's book about a young girl coming out as a lesbian after she sees her teacher swimming naked. If I'm remembering right the title's something like Mermaids of Summer and it's pretty hard to read because of how graphic it gets (after swimming with the naked teacher the protagonist and teacher lie out under the stars and the teacher gives her "the lesbian talk" which includes talking about how to sexually pleasure a girl and the importance of older women in young lesbians lives. Keep in mind the protagonist is a ten-year-old). The characters are all cardboard cutouts, the sex ed stuff is a lesbian ripoff of Are You There God, It's Me Margaret and the book ends with the teacher telling her that if the protagonist wants to get with her, "she'll be more than happy to wait" It's really creepy as it's pretty much textbook grooming a minor but the book treats it like a first crush.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

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But why, though? Being LGBT and having a fetish aren't the same thing, why are these idiots trying to promote that it is? You can say Johnny has two dads without having to deck them out in BDSM gear.

Tried finding the creepy teacher book, but nothing's coming up for me.

 

[8777BB5]

But why, though? Being LGBT and having a fetish aren't the same thing, why are these idiots trying to promote that it is? You can say Johnny has two dads without having to deck them out in BDSM gear.

Tried finding the creepy teacher book, but nothing's coming up for me.

From what I've heard from the reason you see the BDSM gear is because that's how LGBTQP- people express themselves in public as well as it being a (childish way) of making homophobes uncomfortable. The funny thing is the people who do believe this are a vocal minority; Most of the gays and lesbians I've encountered facepalm when they see stuff like this marketed to children as well as Drag Queen Story Time.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

What is even needed to be taught to kids, anyway?

"Children, be nice to everybody"

"Even boys who kiss other boys?"

"Yes, they're called "gay" and be nice to them too".

There. Publish me.

 

[Fandom Trash]

I enjoy reading this thread. I always like YA novels but I never knew that the type of people who would enjoy this novel would such joyless harpies who can never be satisified with anything.

I use to value a review on goodread, but after seeing reviewers scorn for not liking a popular book, or people hating a story because of triggers or just plain, stupid drama, I figured that its better to find a review else where or check my local bookstore for the actual story.

YA had become this cesspool for political, social and gender issues when really it was meant to be for teens who simply wanted to read a book about a girl dating a vampire or some silly highschool shit, not this trend that's currently happening.

I'm hopeful things will change and eventually this reviewers will learn that they became just like those people who try to censor a book just because it "had something they just didn't like."

Anybody who wants to write, should continue writing, and don't let these harpies win.