TCPA Hearing 9/6/19 - Marchi ran from the Law, TI crumbles, conspiracy still on the table, and collective autism from all sides.

[Rotollo]

Sounds like an excellent way to alienate her fans. You know. The ones that go to cons to buy her autographs. Where they make all their money.

thats implying these people actually make money

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

Sounds like an excellent way to alienate her fans. You know. The ones that go to cons to buy her autographs. Where they make all their money.

Her lines are vacant/deader than Monica's. I don't think her cartoon villainy can make things worse, especially knowing there's a soyboy every minute.

 

[Solo Wing Pixy]

Sounds like an excellent way to alienate her fans. You know. The ones that go to cons to buy her autographs. Where they make all their money.

And don't forget paying for the lawyer! and will Funimation really want her after this? what about Sony? And I know it's optimistic but what if she does miraculously does get brought back in with an appeal? At least she's fucked in almost any case.

 

[feral cat #6385]

And don't forget paying for the lawyer! and will Funimation really want her after this? what about Sony? And I know it's optimistic but what if she does miraculously does get brought back in with an appeal? At least she's fucked in almost any case.

Vic will have to pay for her lawyer. It's part of the TCPA.

But she is still fucked. So is Monica. They will end up quietly Asteriosed when its time to renew their contracts with Funimation.

 

[Chudbacca]

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Well look at that.

Source: http://www.therobingroom.com/texas/Judge.aspx?id=10297#comments

Edit (Theres More): https://tarrantbar.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2019-Judicial-Evaluation-Results.pdf

Ain't it crazy how despite all the fucking retarded behavior of someone like Marchi - openly wishing for a man's head and balls, being allegedly assaulted and being so brave as to face her alleged assaulter by dodging court and posting gifs on Twitter, and hoping for an underage fan to have been assaulted to make her side look better - one impatient, annoyed judge can fucking torpedo the case?

Faggot. That dude's a fag in a dress, that's all I'm saying.

Okay I'm being a bit hyperbolic.

TCPA is a trashfire though.

 

[Mr. Sandwiches]

Vic will have to pay for her lawyer. It's part of the TCPA.

But she is still fucked. So is Monica. They will end up quietly Asteriosed when its time to renew their contracts with Funimation.

I highly doubt this..It's likely a "Vic Mignogna is finally dead!" crab party over there at Funimation. If the entire defense walks out of this unscathed then I see no reason why Marchi and Monica's involvement with Funimation would be at risk. Even if what's left manages to stand and pass, then there's still a matter of a trial after Chupp's decision.

Appealing is a phoenix down, but that doesn't mean that anything will change or that things will be any easier. The case will have to sit through appeals hell and THEN get back on its horse. This is why I stressed before that this case is not for the faint of heart. If you are too emotionally invested, and will crack at Lawtwitter and KV and the articles and all the other bumps and cracks this case will see, then just stay away from it. Sure, vent your frustrations, but don't be melodramatic about it.

 

[feral cat #6385]

I highly doubt this..It's likely a "Vic Mignogna is finally dead!" crab party over there at Funimation. If the entire defense walks out of this unscathed then I see no reason why Marchi and Monica's involvement with Funimation would be at risk. Even if what's left manages to stand and pass, then there's still a matter of a trial after Chupp's decision.

Appealing is a phoenix down, but that doesn't mean that anything will change or that things will be any easier. The case will have to sit through appeals hell and THEN get back on its horse. This is why I stressed before that this case is not for the faint of heart. If you are too emotionally invested, and will crack at Lawtwitter and KV and the articles and all the other bumps and cracks this case will see, then just stay away from it. Sure, vent your frustrations, but don't be melodramatic about it.

You don't keep around employees that get you dragged into a lawsuit.

 

[Solo Wing Pixy]

Vic will have to pay for her lawyer. It's part of the TCPA.

But she is still fucked. So is Monica. They will end up quietly Asteriosed when its time to renew their contracts with Funimation.

Right right, its late and I'm a dummy who forgot about that.

 

[Mr. Sandwiches]

You don't keep around employees that get you dragged into a lawsuit.

Certainly, but given what we know about Funimation and just how shady they are, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for those two to get let-go. Unless Sony cared enough about this situation to dissolve Funimation, or bar the defendants from employment there, then I otherwise don't see Marchi and Monica losing work there. I partially base my assumptions on how quiet Funimation was after those leaks were released. No woke-toting "We will no longer be working with Chris Sabat, Sean Schemmel, Monica Rial--for the near and conceivable future" announcement. Absolute silence.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

You don't keep around employees that get you dragged into a lawsuit.

Wokeness and Sabat being scared of getting Vic'd by the fat hoes would negate said train of thought. We do live in a clown world after all.

 

[Done]

Vic will have to pay for her lawyer. It's part of the TCPA.

But she is still fucked. So is Monica. They will end up quietly Asteriosed when its time to renew their contracts with Funimation.

Asterios got fucked because NY Anti-SLAPP laws are significantly weaker than TX's, so because his case went to trial, he had to take on personal debt to pay all lawyer fees+costs out of his pocket even though he won (plus he lost his job as a result, which doubly hurts).

Pending appeal, Marchi will have all her legal costs paid by Vic, plus court-imposed sanctions that will probably be determined at a separate hearing. The same goes for any dismissed-at-pretrial charge (so Toye TI, Monica TI, Funi TI..etc are all counted as separate charges each with their own sanction). If the GoFundMe runs out, he will still owe money to Ty as part of whatever legal representation agreement.

Even if Vic wins on his remaining charges, he could still end up losing money on the whole thing, especially if he appeals and fails (because appeals will add even more billable hours etc).

TL;DR: Vic could be in for a world of hurt, even if he wins on whatever remains of his cases.

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You don't keep around employees that get you dragged into a lawsuit.

Which is why Vic will likely never be hired by a major anime company again. From their perspective, he's the one who has a history of suing his employers.

 

[TheClappening]

Which is why Vic will likely never be hired by a major anime company again. From their perspective, he's the one who has a history of suing his employers.

We have to wait and see. The cause of action that hurt Vic's reputation the most, defamation, is still on the table.

So he got booted from cons, and he can't make the case the defendants did it. Fine. But if he can win a defamation claim, he proves that the people claiming he was a rapist and kiddy diddler were liars.

Being accused of sexual abuse/harassment/whatever is what hurt him the most.

 

[Allanon]

We have to wait and see. The cause of action that hurt Vic's reputation the most, defamation, is still on the table.

So he got booted from cons, and he can't make the case the defendants did it. Fine. But if he can win a defamation claim, he proves that the people claiming he was a rapist and kiddy diddler were liars.

Being accused of sexual abuse/harassment/whatever is what hurt him the most.

It's true, the defamation claims are the most important ones to him getting rehired in places. Ignoring Slatosch's affidavit, the defamation is the strongest case anyway.

 

[Done]

1st of all, no disrespect here, but I am legit ing at people smashing those bad internet stickers like they actually matter, you really are new here huh? This isn't reddit.

We have to wait and see. The cause of action that hurt Vic's reputation the most, defamation, is still on the table.

So he got booted from cons, and he can't make the case the defendants did it. Fine. But if he can win a defamation claim, he proves that the people claiming he was a rapist and kiddy diddler were liars.

Being accused of sexual abuse/harassment/whatever is what hurt him the most.

Sure thing, but how much damages can he attach to that, monetarily speaking? TI charge is gone, and from what we've seen so far, he doesn't have proof that specific cons didn't take him in because of specific defendant statements and not because of the general controversy around him (which has only been amplified because of #KickVic, #ISWV and #LawTwitter all getting involved).

Will those damages awards be enough to offset what he will be paying out?

 

[LogWithTeeth]

It's true, the defamation claims are the most important ones to him getting rehired in places. Ignoring Slatosch's affidavit, the defamation is the strongest case anyway.

Iiiiiiit...really isn't? The claims might (note, might) make it past the TCPA, (though I'll note that if Chupp is relying on that shittastic reply that got filed late Friday, I wouldn't bet so much as a cup of warm piss on it) but the judge's determination that Vic is a LPPF as good as kills defamation claims dead in the water. They won't make it past summary judgement.

 

[Allanon]

Iiiiiiit...really isn't? The claims might (note, might) make it past the TCPA, (though I'll note that if Chupp is relying on that shittastic reply that got filed late Friday, I wouldn't bet so much as a cup of warm piss on it) but the judge's determination that Vic is a LPPF as good as kills defamation claims dead in the water. They won't make it past summary judgement.

I disagree.

 

[TheClappening]

Sure thing, but how much damages can he attach to that, monetarily speaking? TI charge is gone, and from what we've seen so far, he doesn't have proof that specific cons didn't take him in because of specific defendant statements and not because of the general controversy around him (which has only been amplified because of #KickVic, #ISWV and #LawTwitter all getting involved).

Will those damages awards be enough to offset what he will be paying out?

Dunno. Might not even matter. If Vic gets his reputation vindicated that might be enough for him. At the end of the day he's not getting jobs or convention invites because people accused him of being a sexual predator. He wins that claim, most arguments against hiring/inviting him lose their teeth.

I mean, sure, no one is compelled to invite him back. But if he's drawing SRO crowds to his autograph lines, and he's proven to not be a guy who's going to rape your kids... why not?

Iiiiiiit...really isn't? The claims might (note, might) make it past the TCPA, (though I'll note that if Chupp is relying on that shittastic reply that got filed late Friday, I wouldn't bet so much as a cup of warm piss on it) but the judge's determination that Vic is a LPPF as good as kills defamation claims dead in the water. They won't make it past summary judgement.

That's the puzzling thing. If he's considering the August 30 filing, I assume he also somehow considered the withdrawn affidavits. And Slatosch's had at least Monica and Ron nailed on tortoise interference with contract. And yet, that charge was still thrown out, somehow, while still keeping defamation and civil conspiracy (conspiracy to commit what?).

The whole ruling is screwy.

 

[LogWithTeeth]

That's the puzzling thing. If he's considering the August 30 filing, I assume he also somehow considered the withdrawn affidavits. And Slatosch's had at least Monica and Ron nailed on tortoise interference with contract. And yet, that charge was still thrown out, somehow, while still keeping defamation and civil conspiracy (conspiracy to commit what?).

The whole ruling is screwy.

If he's only considering that filing chain alone, that assumption might not be valid. Withdrawing affidavits generally means that they're...y'know...withdrawn. And not to be considered.

Also, presumably conspiracy to commit defamation (fat chance!)

 

[TheClappening]

If he's only considering that filing chain alone, that assumption might not be valid. Withdrawing affidavits generally means that they're...y'know...withdrawn. And not to be considered.

Also, presumably conspiracy to commit defamation (fat chance!)

According to what I've read on the hearing, he seemed to be considering at least some of it when brought up, and he didn't grill Ty on the notary fuckery.

 

[AnIncredibleDerp]

I just realized something else that's completely retarded... I'm going to put it in all the context.

Chupp threw out the claim TI with prospective business contracts because Ty could not provide evidence of cancelled conventions that didn't reinstate, during an anti-SLAPP hearing, and without having access to discovery.]

So, to put it into perspective: Vic had a charge ruled against him, for failing to prove a different charge, in a hearing not intended to hear the different charge, and before the stage at which evidence is gathered.