Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

If that Reddit post about Zoe’s SA username being abbic is correct, this is her profile (she changed usernames at some point but since SA is all fucked sideways, their profile will change to the new name but quoted posts won’t, so you just find a quoted post from “abbic”, click on the user, and you can find their new username: https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...0504&pagenumber=1795&perpage=40#post433201574)


Here is her post history


Bunch of posts in the Toronto thread so it’s probably her, I doubt there’s anything here but feel free to look through it

Screenshots, nigger, I ain't giving Low-T money for jack shit.
 
Here's an article that Ralph wrote about the Candace Owens vs Zoe Quinn saga right when it happened, and he basically uncovered how she informs her followers about the latest target:


So basically, Zoe screenshotted Candace's email, didn't redact any personal information (ie Candace's email address), and then tweeted out the screenshot to her followers (ie True Believers) on her @primeape account. Then Candace started receiving death threats etc at the same email, which was her private email, not her public one. @yesthatanna this is a juicy thread, and you might want to see where it leads. If you can fully expose Zoe Quinn, it would be a watershed moment in journalism because she's being protected by the Old Guard media (ie Washington Post).

This could be the moment where the New Media, like TPM, begins the process of actually wrestling control away from the corporate giants.
So, it seems like Zoe's MO is to Tweet out that someone is a bad person and then wait for her fanbase to fuck them up, giving her playable deniability.
 
So, it seems like Zoe's MO is to Tweet out that someone is a bad person and then wait for her fanbase to fuck them up, giving her playable deniability.

Except she can't really have plausible deniability anymore. Even the shittiest lawyer in the world could craft a convincing argument that she knows exactly what she's doing when she sends out tweets like this.

Here is a pretty interesting parallel to Zoe Quinn from the annals of history:
 
If that Reddit post about Zoe’s SA username being abbic is correct, this is her profile (she changed usernames at some point but since SA is all fucked sideways, their profile will change to the new name but quoted posts won’t, so you just find a quoted post from “abbic”, click on the user, and you can find their new username: https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...0504&pagenumber=1795&perpage=40#post433201574)


Here is her post history


Bunch of posts in the Toronto thread so it’s probably her, I doubt there’s anything here but feel free to look through it
I read through all the posts and there's nothing interesting in there.

It doesn't seem like Quinn to me, though; talking about Warhammer and Dark Souls, gifting people games.
 
You wouldn't think but Hambly has a really large following, regularly getting 100k views per video. Yes he channels mundane Matt in that he just reads articles, but still people like him.

Also he's clever in that he makes point of promoting the publisher and writer of articles he uses, like he did with the Post Millenial. I suspect smaller publications are starting to see his usefulness. He's also good at walking that line with YouTube that keeps him monetised, and off hipster welfare.

My problem with Hambly is he said maybe the stuff about Alec was actually true because of the Eron/Zoe exchange, but all she said was some Canadian game dude made her believe it wasn't a meritocracy and she wanted to destroy him for THAT not that he walked her around like a muppet. Zoe is <<allegedly>> very explicit to her new boyfriends about her old boyfriends. I'd bet money she never told any ex that. I get he's trying to be a fence sitter and all but he doesn't have to fornicate with the fucking post.
 
Welp. This guy just got fired and blacklisted for speaking out against Zoe Quinn:


Here's the tweet from his company when they were firing him:


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Nice that people are having the balls to speak up, and fuck everyone else in these shitty cliques. It's because of them that she's had the power to do all the bullshit as she has.

That he got 40 likes for his response to the tweet dropping him, and nobody saying the usual bullshit like "this is a conversation we should have but not now because muh soggy knees" and "free speech isn't free from consequences" could break ten and they got pushback from other chiptune composers gives me some hope that even in these niche markets the tide of opinion is turning.
 
Here's an article that Mike Cernovich wrote about Zoe in 2015, where he claims that she lied about him to congress, and then had him doxed. Yes, he has receipts in the article:


And HERE is an article that Cernovich wrote about Zoe in 2014 after she had him doxed and was trying to convince her followers to have him SWATTED:


No, she can't claim plausible deniability for fucking anything. She knows exactly what she's doing.
 
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Here's an article that Mike Cernovich wrote about Zoe in 2015, where he claims that she lied about him to congress, and then had him doxed. Yes, he has receipts in the article:


2. Zoe Quinn previously belonged to a forum on Something Awful called Helldump. Helldump was a cyber bullying board that had a "confirmed kill," that is, they were able to bully a teenager into suicide.

We should have seen this coming. (:_(
 
Eron Gjoni resurfaced and made this tweet:


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@catharicshithead -- I just want to make clear that we purchased nothing from anyone, nor did I actively pursue this. GamerGate is not my scene. I don't playeth the vidya. I was approached, and I only gave it the time of day because I felt there was tangible evidence worth exploring which suggested a man struggling with obvious mental health issues was sentenced to death, publicly, on shoddy (at best) allegations.

And yes, I covered Yaniv front to back as well. Anything that was worth covering, and had enough verifiable evidence attached, I wrote on. Note that closely. If anything else came out that I did not cover, there is likely a reason.

While TPM does not have the funding and prestige of major outlets (I DO NOT make bank, folks), we have integrity, and we try to cover stories that matter to the people who generally get their concerns snubbed by the bluechecks.

That's why I wasn't shy about crediting KF when I did notice some of the info on Yaniv came from here, or coming here when I had to address something. It's also why any of you are always welcome to slip into my DMs if you feel something needs to be looked into.

Can't guarantee I can always do it, but I will always keep an open mind.
Anna,
Thank you for taking this seriously and i can't tell you how impressive your writing on this is.
I was very moved several times reading it.
And thank you guys here on the Farms for not blasting all this already logged and archived stuff all over the place so that this scoop still has the traction it needs to be taken very seriously.
We may not have the numbers of FOX, CNN or MSNBC but in the last two hours alone, over 80,000 people have watched that reading of Anna's article on the quartering guys channel. And thousands of posts about the article itself.


And by WE I mean all of us, here and our friends in Canada that lost one of their own to this vile woman's screed.
 
I hate to be the voice of reality here, but it needs to be said.

Nothing bad will ever, ever happen to Zoe Quinn. Not from this event, not from anything. Quinn herself is a manipulative sociopath, as evidenced dozens of times over. She knows how to cultivate a loyal following of the most beta virgin of men who will go to bat for her. She's fucked enough people (quite literally) in the gaming industry and the press and made sure she was alone with them to have people stick by her out of sheer fear, trying to convince themselves that they're on her side. The decaying games journalism crowd views her as Gamer Gate, which has bought them four more years of publication due to click bait, so a Golden Goose. As pathetic as that is, but your life is pretty pathetic when you're a games journalist. Just a massive faggot with not even enough skills to work the fryer in McDonalds. So those people ain't saying shit.

And she's not going to pick a target that will ever harm her. Look at fucking Alec, that shit was as tactical as you can get.

1. Knew his social circle were progtards, who would immediately betray him for that #MeToo clout
2. Knew his co-workers intimately and how they'd react out of jealousy and spite because they're fucking talentless.
3. Knew his family and how they would respond. Just look at his fucking sister.
4. Knew he was fighting many mental health issues, meaning adding to that pile would make it likely he wouldn't fight back.
5. Knew his politics, making it likely he would apologize rather than go after her.
6. Knew that the indie gaming clique would never, ever take his side and go right for that #MeToo
7. Knew it was far enough in the past and they spent enough time alone that it would be believable. (Not to anyone that knows this bitch, but she doesn't care about us. She cares about all the little progtards. Remember, she could just brush it off as her critics attacking a 'defenseless woman'.)

Really, he was the perfect target for someone like her. The only thing she didn't predict, because she's a fucking monster, that immediate isolation from literally everything in your life with massive mental health problems usually doesn't end well. So he killed himself.

Quinn herself is a sociopath and will never feel guilt, sympathy or empathy. So she did the strategic retreat, stayed radio silent for a week or two and came back out. She knew none of her circle would contradict her. Not even with this evidence. It simply does not matter. You can have a voice and video recording of her tying the fucking noose around his neck and egging him on to kill himself and she'd still have fucking support.

Because everyone against her has the wrong politics. Because she has the right people in the right places. And don't think for a fucking second that men she's fucked previously are looking at Alec and thinking 'Am I next?' so they're all going to be out in force for her. Because everyone is disposable to Zoe Quinn. She's fucked the right people, and I don't mean for influence wise. I mean, that if she ever accuses them of anything, they're done. Everyone will turn on them. You think bitch boy, Nathan Grayson is safe? Fuck no. Nobody is.

The joke is that Zoe Quinn is some poor, abused, weak woman. When in reality, she's a heartless fucking cunt who will destroy anyone at anytime, for any reason. She has completely insulated herself from any harm from people like us. Because she's designed it that way. I'm not saying she's an evil genius. With the press GamerGate got, she got really fucking lucky. And powerful. And there is nothing worse than a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath who got a little taste of that.
 
I hate to be the voice of reality here, but it needs to be said.

Nothing bad will ever, ever happen to Zoe Quinn. Not from this event, not from anything. Quinn herself is a manipulative sociopath, as evidenced dozens of times over. She knows how to cultivate a loyal following of the most beta virgin of men who will go to bat for her. She's fucked enough people (quite literally) in the gaming industry and the press and made sure she was alone with them to have people stick by her out of sheer fear, trying to convince themselves that they're on her side. The decaying games journalism crowd views her as Gamer Gate, which has bought them four more years of publication due to click bait, so a Golden Goose. As pathetic as that is, but your life is pretty pathetic when you're a games journalist. Just a massive faggot with not even enough skills to work the fryer in McDonalds. So those people ain't saying shit.

And she's not going to pick a target that will ever harm her. Look at fucking Alec, that shit was as tactical as you can get.

1. Knew his social circle were progtards, who would immediately betray him for that #MeToo clout
2. Knew his co-workers intimately and how they'd react out of jealousy and spite because they're fucking talentless.
3. Knew his family and how they would respond. Just look at his fucking sister.
4. Knew he was fighting many mental health issues, meaning adding to that pile would make it likely he wouldn't fight back.
5. Knew his politics, making it likely he would apologize rather than go after her.
6. Knew that the indie gaming clique would never, ever take his side and go right for that #MeToo
7. Knew it was far enough in the past and they spent enough time alone that it would be believable. (Not to anyone that knows this bitch, but she doesn't care about us. She cares about all the little progtards. Remember, she could just brush it off as her critics attacking a 'defenseless woman'.)

Really, he was the perfect target for someone like her. The only thing she didn't predict, because she's a fucking monster, that immediate isolation from literally everything in your life with massive mental health problems usually doesn't end well. So he killed himself.

Quinn herself is a sociopath and will never feel guilt, sympathy or empathy. So she did the strategic retreat, stayed radio silent for a week or two and came back out. She knew none of her circle would contradict her. Not even with this evidence. It simply does not matter. You can have a voice and video recording of her tying the fucking noose around his neck and egging him on to kill himself and she'd still have fucking support.

Because everyone against her has the wrong politics. Because she has the right people in the right places. And don't think for a fucking second that men she's fucked previously are looking at Alec and thinking 'Am I next?' so they're all going to be out in force for her. Because everyone is disposable to Zoe Quinn. She's fucked the right people, and I don't mean for influence wise. I mean, that if she ever accuses them of anything, they're done. Everyone will turn on them. You think bitch boy, Nathan Grayson is safe? Fuck no. Nobody is.

The joke is that Zoe Quinn is some poor, abused, weak woman. When in reality, she's a heartless fucking cunt who will destroy anyone at anytime, for any reason. She has completely insulated herself from any harm from people like us. Because she's designed it that way. I'm not saying she's an evil genius. With the press GamerGate got, she got really fucking lucky. And powerful. And there is nothing worse than a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath who got a little taste of that.
Honestly, though, they seem to have moved on to eating their own for easy targets. So that's a silver lining.

Everyone else seems to have learned to tell them to fuck off.
 
That's a purtey strawman you built there. It's a shame that it'll catch fire since I never said anything of the sort. I just stated what the laws were regarding it. I made no claims about Zoe being extradited or what crimes she committed. I just provided that there is an extradition treaty in place that allows for citizens of each country to be transported to a foreign country to stand trial. That's it.

You might want to call the fire department since your strawman is on fire.

>Accuses me of building purity strawman for not thinking foreign countries should be able to come into the US and lock you up because you "Cyber Bully" one of their citizens into killing themselves.
>Says "hurr durr I didn't mean anything by bringing up extradition"
>Get the Reddit "muh Straw man fallacy" speech in over dramatic Reddit fashion

I'm tired of beating a dead horse. Maybe being constructive will get my point through better
>If Zoe is actually DDOSing a website right now, get proof and turn that in. Its a serious cybercrime that will keep her off the internet for a while
>Zoes defunct 501c3 has open tax records you can go through to see if something fishy is going on there
>Since Zoe harassed a guy into killing himself, she has violated Patreon and other web host TOS.

I think these are more actionable and likely to yeild real criminal action than trying to beg canada to have the US hand Zoe over for something that happened in the US that still can still be held under 1st ammendment protection.

Criminal Harassment is a crime in both the US and Canada. Also, Canada and the US routinely arrest people on the other's behalf and extradite them. One of the more recent examples of this is the CFO of Huawei, who was arrested in Vancouver for crimes committed against the US.

"She's accused by the United States of helping Huawei cover up violations of sanctions on Iran, according to Canadian prosecutors." -https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/tech/what-is-huawei/index.html

I don't think that is Criminal Harassment. Thats serious grasping at straws to compare a case where a Girl was such a vindictive cunt to get a guy to kill himself (and even if whether or not that was her intent is still up for debate) and trying to cover up trade embargo regulation violations.

George Cuckzunian, are you implying Zoe is a federal informant?

Stop the impying (or the masonic Damak and Jalad at Tanagra act with the initials) and just spit it out. The game has changed and who you thought was in charge is no longer running things.

Ask Zoe how her gambling websites in Montreal are doing.

That is a deep cut, but since its a throw away I gotta give it an autistic. For those who don't get it much if this refferences old GG lore at the begining:
-When people discovered Darpa was funding some of this weird think tank stuff, people questioned if Zoe was a fed (highly unlikely)
-Chelsea Van Valkenberg is a dutch name tied to powerful dutch families that to this day get free scholarship money. While that name may of had some serious power in the 1400's its doubtful it means that much now. But when Zoes powerword got found, people freaked out cause that lastname has some seriously strange blood line ties. Zoe was getting money from certain people but it seems to be the same people funding general DARPA stuff
-No clue about the gambling websites stuff. Unsure if this is too deep a cut to me or a refference to being able to freeze someones US assets by getting the banks to think the money is being used for foreign gambling.
 
I hate to be the voice of reality here, but it needs to be said.

Nothing bad will ever, ever happen to Zoe Quinn. Not from this event, not from anything. Quinn herself is a manipulative sociopath, as evidenced dozens of times over. She knows how to cultivate a loyal following of the most beta virgin of men who will go to bat for her. She's fucked enough people (quite literally) in the gaming industry and the press and made sure she was alone with them to have people stick by her out of sheer fear, trying to convince themselves that they're on her side. The decaying games journalism crowd views her as Gamer Gate, which has bought them four more years of publication due to click bait, so a Golden Goose. As pathetic as that is, but your life is pretty pathetic when you're a games journalist. Just a massive faggot with not even enough skills to work the fryer in McDonalds. So those people ain't saying shit.

And she's not going to pick a target that will ever harm her. Look at fucking Alec, that shit was as tactical as you can get.

1. Knew his social circle were progtards, who would immediately betray him for that #MeToo clout
2. Knew his co-workers intimately and how they'd react out of jealousy and spite because they're fucking talentless.
3. Knew his family and how they would respond. Just look at his fucking sister.
4. Knew he was fighting many mental health issues, meaning adding to that pile would make it likely he wouldn't fight back.
5. Knew his politics, making it likely he would apologize rather than go after her.
6. Knew that the indie gaming clique would never, ever take his side and go right for that #MeToo
7. Knew it was far enough in the past and they spent enough time alone that it would be believable. (Not to anyone that knows this bitch, but she doesn't care about us. She cares about all the little progtards. Remember, she could just brush it off as her critics attacking a 'defenseless woman'.)

Really, he was the perfect target for someone like her. The only thing she didn't predict, because she's a fucking monster, that immediate isolation from literally everything in your life with massive mental health problems usually doesn't end well. So he killed himself.

Quinn herself is a sociopath and will never feel guilt, sympathy or empathy. So she did the strategic retreat, stayed radio silent for a week or two and came back out. She knew none of her circle would contradict her. Not even with this evidence. It simply does not matter. You can have a voice and video recording of her tying the fucking noose around his neck and egging him on to kill himself and she'd still have fucking support.

Because everyone against her has the wrong politics. Because she has the right people in the right places. And don't think for a fucking second that men she's fucked previously are looking at Alec and thinking 'Am I next?' so they're all going to be out in force for her. Because everyone is disposable to Zoe Quinn. She's fucked the right people, and I don't mean for influence wise. I mean, that if she ever accuses them of anything, they're done. Everyone will turn on them. You think bitch boy, Nathan Grayson is safe? Fuck no. Nobody is.

The joke is that Zoe Quinn is some poor, abused, weak woman. When in reality, she's a heartless fucking cunt who will destroy anyone at anytime, for any reason. She has completely insulated herself from any harm from people like us. Because she's designed it that way. I'm not saying she's an evil genius. With the press GamerGate got, she got really fucking lucky. And powerful. And there is nothing worse than a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath who got a little taste of that.

100% disagree.
The townsfolk can only be terrorized by the witch in the forest for so long. Then they band together and burn her.
Is this going to happen soon? Probably not. But that day is drawing closer and closer.

We are archiving all of her misdeeds for two reasons:
1) In case we inspire some anonymous hacker to break into her shit and image her hard drives and social media DMs, which assuredly has enough incriminating shit to get her brought up on charges and/or destroy her public image.
2) When one of her targets inevitably snaps and literally kills her, we'll have a nice long file for the purposes of Jury Nullification.

I'm not promoting the idea that anyone physically harm her at all. What I'm saying is that this woman has done so much harm, that if I was on the jury of the person who caved in her skull with a baseball bat, my vote would be Not Guilty -- no matter how "brutal" her end was.
 
I hate to be the voice of reality here, but it needs to be said.

Nothing bad will ever, ever happen to Zoe Quinn. Not from this event, not from anything. Quinn herself is a manipulative sociopath, as evidenced dozens of times over. She knows how to cultivate a loyal following of the most beta virgin of men who will go to bat for her. She's fucked enough people (quite literally) in the gaming industry and the press and made sure she was alone with them to have people stick by her out of sheer fear, trying to convince themselves that they're on her side. The decaying games journalism crowd views her as Gamer Gate, which has bought them four more years of publication due to click bait, so a Golden Goose. As pathetic as that is, but your life is pretty pathetic when you're a games journalist. Just a massive faggot with not even enough skills to work the fryer in McDonalds. So those people ain't saying shit.

And she's not going to pick a target that will ever harm her. Look at fucking Alec, that shit was as tactical as you can get.

1. Knew his social circle were progtards, who would immediately betray him for that #MeToo clout
2. Knew his co-workers intimately and how they'd react out of jealousy and spite because they're fucking talentless.
3. Knew his family and how they would respond. Just look at his fucking sister.
4. Knew he was fighting many mental health issues, meaning adding to that pile would make it likely he wouldn't fight back.
5. Knew his politics, making it likely he would apologize rather than go after her.
6. Knew that the indie gaming clique would never, ever take his side and go right for that #MeToo
7. Knew it was far enough in the past and they spent enough time alone that it would be believable. (Not to anyone that knows this bitch, but she doesn't care about us. She cares about all the little progtards. Remember, she could just brush it off as her critics attacking a 'defenseless woman'.)

Really, he was the perfect target for someone like her. The only thing she didn't predict, because she's a fucking monster, that immediate isolation from literally everything in your life with massive mental health problems usually doesn't end well. So he killed himself.

Quinn herself is a sociopath and will never feel guilt, sympathy or empathy. So she did the strategic retreat, stayed radio silent for a week or two and came back out. She knew none of her circle would contradict her. Not even with this evidence. It simply does not matter. You can have a voice and video recording of her tying the fucking noose around his neck and egging him on to kill himself and she'd still have fucking support.

Because everyone against her has the wrong politics. Because she has the right people in the right places. And don't think for a fucking second that men she's fucked previously are looking at Alec and thinking 'Am I next?' so they're all going to be out in force for her. Because everyone is disposable to Zoe Quinn. She's fucked the right people, and I don't mean for influence wise. I mean, that if she ever accuses them of anything, they're done. Everyone will turn on them. You think bitch boy, Nathan Grayson is safe? Fuck no. Nobody is.

The joke is that Zoe Quinn is some poor, abused, weak woman. When in reality, she's a heartless fucking cunt who will destroy anyone at anytime, for any reason. She has completely insulated herself from any harm from people like us. Because she's designed it that way. I'm not saying she's an evil genius. With the press GamerGate got, she got really fucking lucky. And powerful. And there is nothing worse than a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath who got a little taste of that.
At this point if Zoe is really so protected by these people then I'll gladly suggest an alternate tactic. They want to be her life raft? Fine. Then let's see to it that they drown in the process and are keeping her up with their bloated corpses (metaphorically speaking, of course). That'll make other bugmen in the "geek" industries think twice about getting into bed with her. These are not rich and powerful people. They have a limited influence and clout within a very limited field that caters to a niche audience and other people in that field are starting to turn on them over the Holowka shit. People are upset. A few of those people are speaking out and need to be supported. Others will quietly avoid working with the Quinn clique anymore. People with actual talent who do the heavy lifting, while most of these cucks are "idea guys" who cant make shit on their own. The more damning shit that comes out, the more they'll hurt themselves by shielding her. Keep the pressure on. Even if Zoe walks away, if her support group is irreparably damaged by this, that's a big win.
 
>Accuses me of building purity strawman for not thinking foreign countries should be able to come into the US and lock you up because you "Cyber Bully" one of their citizens into killing themselves.
>Says "hurr durr I didn't mean anything by bringing up extradition"
>Get the Reddit "muh Straw man fallacy" speech in over dramatic Reddit fashion

I'm tired of beating a dead horse. Maybe being constructive will get my point through better
>If Zoe is actually DDOSing a website right now, get proof and turn that in. Its a serious cybercrime that will keep her off the internet for a while
>Zoes defunct 501c3 has open tax records you can go through to see if something fishy is going on there
>Since Zoe harassed a guy into killing himself, she has violated Patreon and other web host TOS.

I think these are more actionable and likely to yeild real criminal action than trying to beg canada to have the US hand Zoe over for something that happened in the US that still can still be held under 1st ammendment protection.



"She's accused by the United States of helping Huawei cover up violations of sanctions on Iran, according to Canadian prosecutors." -https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/tech/what-is-huawei/index.html

I don't think that is Criminal Harassment. Thats serious grasping at straws to compare a case where a Girl was such a vindictive cunt to get a guy to kill himself (and even if whether or not that was her intent is still up for debate) and trying to cover up trade embargo regulation violations.



That is a deep cut, but since its a throw away I gotta give it an autistic. For those who don't get it much if this refferences old GG lore at the begining:
-When people discovered Darpa was funding some of this weird think tank stuff, people questioned if Zoe was a fed (highly unlikely)
-Chelsea Van Valkenberg is a dutch name tied to powerful dutch families that to this day get free scholarship money. While that name may of had some serious power in the 1400's its doubtful it means that much now. But when Zoes powerword got found, people freaked out cause that lastname has some seriously strange blood line ties. Zoe was getting money from certain people but it seems to be the same people funding general DARPA stuff
-No clue about the gambling websites stuff. Unsure if this is too deep a cut to me or a refference to being able to freeze someones US assets by getting the banks to think the money is being used for foreign gambling.

Another fine strawman you've built to attack me with. I never said anything about Zoe being extradited to Canada nor did I say she broke any laws. I never said she DDoSed a website. However, I did say that there is an extradition treaty between the US and Canada that has been used daily to extradite prisoners to stand trial in the respective countries where a crime was committed to counter your point that it never happens. Extradition does happen daily. I also said that The Post Millennial suffered a DDoS attack by posting a tweet from TPM saying the exact thing.

Unlike you, I only stick to the facts of the matter and use only readily available facts to back up my position. You made the claim that she won't get extradited due to there not being any laws. I only pointed out that you were wrong on the law part as there is an extradition treaty between the US and Canada.

The rest of your little rant has zero to do with what I've said. Thus, you are engaging in another strawman to attack me with. When you have actual facts that disputes my personal statements regarding what I've actually said let me know. Otherwise, you get another Dumb reaction from me.

EDIT: Rarely do I give my opinion on matters since it's not important. I only give the facts because that is all that matters. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
 
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