Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[Gamergate2EB]

Another fine strawman you've built to attack me with. I never said anything about Zoe being extradited to Canada nor did I say she broke any laws. I never said she DDoSed a website. However, I did say that there is an extradition treaty between the US and Canada that has been used daily to extradite prisoners to stand trial in the respective countries where a crime was committed to counter your point that it never happens. Extradition does happen daily. I also said that The Post Millennial suffered a DDoS attack by posting a tweet from TPM saying the exact thing.
Unlike you, I only stick to the facts of the matter and use only readily available facts to back up my position. You made the claim that she won't get extradited due to there not being any laws. I only pointed out that you were wrong on the law part as there is an extradition treaty between the US and Canada.
The rest of your little rant has zero to do with what I've said. Thus, you are engaging in another strawman to attack me with. When you have actual facts that disputes my personal statements regarding what I've actually said let me know. Otherwise, you get another Dumb reaction from me.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I hate to be the voice of reality here, but it needs to be said.

Nothing bad will ever, ever happen to Zoe Quinn. Not from this event, not from anything. Quinn herself is a manipulative sociopath, as evidenced dozens of times over. She knows how to cultivate a loyal following of the most beta virgin of men who will go to bat for her. She's fucked enough people (quite literally) in the gaming industry and the press and made sure she was alone with them to have people stick by her out of sheer fear, trying to convince themselves that they're on her side. The decaying games journalism crowd views her as Gamer Gate, which has bought them four more years of publication due to click bait, so a Golden Goose. As pathetic as that is, but your life is pretty pathetic when you're a games journalist. Just a massive faggot with not even enough skills to work the fryer in McDonalds. So those people ain't saying shit.

And she's not going to pick a target that will ever harm her. Look at fucking Alec, that shit was as tactical as you can get.

1. Knew his social circle were progtards, who would immediately betray him for that #MeToo clout
2. Knew his co-workers intimately and how they'd react out of jealousy and spite because they're fucking talentless.
3. Knew his family and how they would respond. Just look at his fucking sister.
4. Knew he was fighting many mental health issues, meaning adding to that pile would make it likely he wouldn't fight back.
5. Knew his politics, making it likely he would apologize rather than go after her.
6. Knew that the indie gaming clique would never, ever take his side and go right for that #MeToo
7. Knew it was far enough in the past and they spent enough time alone that it would be believable. (Not to anyone that knows this bitch, but she doesn't care about us. She cares about all the little progtards. Remember, she could just brush it off as her critics attacking a 'defenseless woman'.)

Really, he was the perfect target for someone like her. The only thing she didn't predict, because she's a fucking monster, that immediate isolation from literally everything in your life with massive mental health problems usually doesn't end well. So he killed himself.

Quinn herself is a sociopath and will never feel guilt, sympathy or empathy. So she did the strategic retreat, stayed radio silent for a week or two and came back out. She knew none of her circle would contradict her. Not even with this evidence. It simply does not matter. You can have a voice and video recording of her tying the fucking noose around his neck and egging him on to kill himself and she'd still have fucking support.

Because everyone against her has the wrong politics. Because she has the right people in the right places. And don't think for a fucking second that men she's fucked previously are looking at Alec and thinking 'Am I next?' so they're all going to be out in force for her. Because everyone is disposable to Zoe Quinn. She's fucked the right people, and I don't mean for influence wise. I mean, that if she ever accuses them of anything, they're done. Everyone will turn on them. You think bitch boy, Nathan Grayson is safe? Fuck no. Nobody is.

The joke is that Zoe Quinn is some poor, abused, weak woman. When in reality, she's a heartless fucking cunt who will destroy anyone at anytime, for any reason. She has completely insulated herself from any harm from people like us. Because she's designed it that way. I'm not saying she's an evil genius. With the press GamerGate got, she got really fucking lucky. And powerful. And there is nothing worse than a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath who got a little taste of that.

I think she’s screwed once she ages out. Her base is mostly progtard thirsty men. She’ll eventually be dethroned by a younger woman.

I don’t think she’ll ever face jail time or anything like that but she won’t ever hold real power, even in the video game industry. Sure she has influence with game journalists and the indie scene but both industries are a joke. She’s not as smart as she thinks she is. Also, we should be glad she’s not as competent as others like her.

 

[TheGuntMobile99]

I think she’s screwed once she ages out. Her base is mostly progtard thirsty men. She’ll eventually be dethroned by a younger woman.

I don’t think she’ll ever face jail time or anything like that but she won’t ever hold real power, even in the video game industry. Sure she has influence with game journalists and the indie scene but both industries are a joke. She’s not as smart as she thinks she is. Also, we should be glad she’s not as competent as others like her.

Is there archives of some of her twitter followers responses? wish Id saved her bowsette cosplay tweet and responses, several of them actually just admit its a "thirst follow" as well as many other tweets talking about her looks only on pretty much any tweet. the bowsette one was a perfect encapsulation though its where any pretext that she was a human and not a slop box relief station was thrown out. Its ironic that the environment there was so skeezy and uncomfortable considering what they preach

 

[proteus4994]

Screenshots, nigger, I ain't giving Low-T money for jack shit.

lol like I’m reading that shit

I read through all the posts and there's nothing interesting in there.

It doesn't seem like Quinn to me, though; talking about Warhammer and Dark Souls, gifting people games.

Might not be her, Reddit doesn’t have the finest detectives. However if there was anything damning on there I’m positive it got wiped years ago. Probably around five years ago in fact.

Edit: By the way, the history of Helldump is highly overrated, it was honestly like proto-KF (make fun of lolcows, look but don’t touch) with less doxing and more self righteous douchebags. But the whole “GOOGLE HELLDUMP” thing is dumb, they were milquetoast at best

 

[laserbender]

Is Quinn back on twitter? Did she provide any more info on her kickstarter scam?

 

[BubbleButt]

Eron Gjoni resurfaced and made this tweet:

Eron Gjoni on Twitter

“Indie-dev scene 2014: How dare you make public accusations against an industry professional?! Me: oh... I thought that was what you guys-- well... ok I guess :\. Indie-dev scene 2019: Hey let's all make public accusations against industry professionals! Me:🤔🤔🤔🤔”

twitter.com

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HAH! Nice!

 

[Dickens Cider]

Can we all just agree that the chances of Zoe getting put in jail or going to jail are about 1% and quit fighting about it? Even if they investigate and find her charity was a total scam and she gets tapped for avoiding taxes, at best she gets to pay it back from her meager cash flow. Unless its a serious amount I doubt they will bother locking her sperg ass up.
What I DO think will happen, and I agree with everyone up thread that said the same is this- The legacy of all this will be that she won't get near as many new followers, and She will find doors quietly closing around her a bit as people fade off the front lines and go AWOL. Sure she will have her hardcore of believers, and those she blackmails into siding with her, but that I think is about it. Certainly this will at least raise enough stink that people definitely think twice about being her friend. Even for free sex I don't see her gaining any power. I do hope she's enjoying all the attention she is getting. I hope she chokes on it.

 

[NotoriousD]

I hate to be the voice of reality here, but it needs to be said.

Nothing bad will ever, ever happen to Zoe Quinn. Not from this event, not from anything. Quinn herself is a manipulative sociopath, as evidenced dozens of times over. She knows how to cultivate a loyal following of the most beta virgin of men who will go to bat for her. She's fucked enough people (quite literally) in the gaming industry and the press and made sure she was alone with them to have people stick by her out of sheer fear, trying to convince themselves that they're on her side. The decaying games journalism crowd views her as Gamer Gate, which has bought them four more years of publication due to click bait, so a Golden Goose. As pathetic as that is, but your life is pretty pathetic when you're a games journalist. Just a massive faggot with not even enough skills to work the fryer in McDonalds. So those people ain't saying shit.

And she's not going to pick a target that will ever harm her. Look at fucking Alec, that shit was as tactical as you can get.

1. Knew his social circle were progtards, who would immediately betray him for that #MeToo clout
2. Knew his co-workers intimately and how they'd react out of jealousy and spite because they're fucking talentless.
3. Knew his family and how they would respond. Just look at his fucking sister.
4. Knew he was fighting many mental health issues, meaning adding to that pile would make it likely he wouldn't fight back.
5. Knew his politics, making it likely he would apologize rather than go after her.
6. Knew that the indie gaming clique would never, ever take his side and go right for that #MeToo
7. Knew it was far enough in the past and they spent enough time alone that it would be believable. (Not to anyone that knows this bitch, but she doesn't care about us. She cares about all the little progtards. Remember, she could just brush it off as her critics attacking a 'defenseless woman'.)

Really, he was the perfect target for someone like her. The only thing she didn't predict, because she's a fucking monster, that immediate isolation from literally everything in your life with massive mental health problems usually doesn't end well. So he killed himself.

Quinn herself is a sociopath and will never feel guilt, sympathy or empathy. So she did the strategic retreat, stayed radio silent for a week or two and came back out. She knew none of her circle would contradict her. Not even with this evidence. It simply does not matter. You can have a voice and video recording of her tying the fucking noose around his neck and egging him on to kill himself and she'd still have fucking support.

Because everyone against her has the wrong politics. Because she has the right people in the right places. And don't think for a fucking second that men she's fucked previously are looking at Alec and thinking 'Am I next?' so they're all going to be out in force for her. Because everyone is disposable to Zoe Quinn. She's fucked the right people, and I don't mean for influence wise. I mean, that if she ever accuses them of anything, they're done. Everyone will turn on them. You think bitch boy, Nathan Grayson is safe? Fuck no. Nobody is.

The joke is that Zoe Quinn is some poor, abused, weak woman. When in reality, she's a heartless fucking cunt who will destroy anyone at anytime, for any reason. She has completely insulated herself from any harm from people like us. Because she's designed it that way. I'm not saying she's an evil genius. With the press GamerGate got, she got really fucking lucky. And powerful. And there is nothing worse than a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath who got a little taste of that.

Normally I agree with a lot of what you say but this time I actually think you're too pessimistic. While she hid her Patreon metrics I highly doubt they rose to a significant level. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the increase was a mere pittance, a slight addition of a few hundred bucks a month(and I do consider that slight for this situation)which will just gradually dry up again.

I'm sure you haven't forgotten that the entire reason Zoe most likely did this was to claim literal victimbux; to get her Patreon some numbers, blow it up some with more cash inflow. All that's going to happen is, at worst, she'll rake in some extra money for a while, then it will gradually dwindle like the available charts show it has for a long time now up until this incident.

What then? Well, here's the thing: you're actually right in my opinion, UNDER certain circumstances. Those circumstances would be, she stops. Completely. I don't just mean now. In my opinion, the BEST option for Zoe right now would be to coast by on what she has right now, shut the fuck up, somehow get her followers and sycophants to shut the fuck up, and just put everything behind her.

IF she were to do this, she's insignificant enough to much of the world right now that it would be less likely for someone to actually look at her in real life and go "Hey aren't you the woman who accused a man of abuse who committed suicide" or some variation of that.

Here's why that's not going to happen:
Despite this being the BEST out my brain can think of, this comes with the added factor that she'll lose Patreonbux gradually. She will, eventually, see the impact that will have in the long run and the only out she has for that is to repeat the cycle all over again or try and advertise to get more money. At best she creates another Chuck Tingle situation, but how long can she keep making fund me things for stuff she doesn't deliver on before she actually comes under scrutiny?

And if she does another callout for literal victimbux, the cycle repeats and Alec's corpse is metaphorically dug up all over again when the next accused is told by people who just HAVE to tell him "Dude the last person she accused ended up killing himself". Mark my words, the next person she even remotely metoo's will involve Alec being brought back up in full force on the subject matter, and even otherwise NO ONE is going to ever shut the fuck up about this for years to come I'm sure. Every time Zoe is brought up I guaran-fucking-tee you that someone is going to bring Alec into it.

Now will this actually hurt her or make her feel guilty? Fuck no. But it WILL annoy her. She'll be pissed off constantly that no one is shutting up about Alec and that she can't just bury the truth and have her happy little narrative. That will definitely irritate her every time it comes up.

She also runs what I could even call the definition of a cult. Some do it out of fear, hell GG only ever happened in my opinion because people like the journalists were protecting their own. But I'm sure enough do it out of some rabid fucking devotion to her that she won't be able to make them all stop, so her own followers would end up being part of what fucks her over if she ever wanted to seriously stop.

She won't age gracefully, and anyone with money, power, status, or any combination of the three would never marry her unless she found someone fucking insane or clueless. Yeah, nothing's going to happen right now. But the more people see her for what she really is, the better, far as I'm concerned.

I still hold firm that it's not the vast network you make it out to be. Some journalists? A few specific people in the right place? That means nothing. She can't rise in the games industry beyond being a no-name indie dev with zero talent or good games released at best and a harpy who preys on people to give her favors and boost her in said industry at worst. She can barely rise in the comics industry and I say this having the bare minimum of information on that front(maybe I should read up more about the goings-ons on this site, get better educated on that side of things), but knowing that sales are apparently abysmal enough for the cringier comics that there's no way Goddess Mode is making her mad bank. If it is, well...shit I'm wrong on that one I guess.

Point is, no, nothing bad is going to happen to her right now, but she's not in some permanently untouchable position. Otherwise she wouldn't have gone from games to comics. I'm not rallying or saying we need to go after her. Just stating that one day she'll trip over her own ineptitude and fall on her face. Until then, the cycle continues.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

I haven't actually listened to this but Brad Glasgow claimed that "Zoe says Crash Override is not non-profit because non-profits require a level of transparency, and they want to protect privacy."

Zoë Quinn On #Gamergate | 1A

The Internet can be a terrible place.

the1a.org

 

[Marvel Cinematic Universe]

In a weird way you have to sort of admire Chelsea. She's willing to do literally anything for success in the purest, most sociopathic anarcho-libertarian way possible. Her body is simply a tool for manipulating men she can use as a stepladder. Her own name and family mean nothing to her. The truth to her is what she makes it, lies coming as easily as firmly held beliefs. She walks forward leaving behind her a trail of annihilated careers, destroyed projects, hundreds of thousands of wasted dollars, and now even a corpse. All while having the media wrapped around her fingertip.

It's honestly impressive.

 

[Mola Ram]

In a weird way you have to sort of admire Chelsea. She's willing to do literally anything for success in the purest, most sociopathic anarcho-libertarian way possible. Her body is simply a tool for manipulating men she can use as a stepladder. Her own name and family mean nothing to her. The truth to her is what she makes it, lies coming as easily as firmly held beliefs. She walks forward leaving behind her a trail of annihilated careers, destroyed projects, hundreds of thousands of wasted dollars, and now even a corpse. All while having the media wrapped around her fingertip.

It's honestly impressive.

Not really. We've had whores ever since the first cavewoman realized some cavemen would trade seashells and shiny things for a chance at her snatch. That's the level she operates at, after all, with some sadism thrown in for spice.

 

[GameDevAnon]

She can barely rise in the comics industry and I say this having the bare minimum of information on that front(maybe I should read up more about the goings-ons on this site, get better educated on that side of things), but knowing that sales are apparently abysmal enough for the cringier comics that there's no way Goddess Mode is making her mad bank. If it is, well...shit I'm wrong on that one I guess.

LOL
Goddess Mode was a complete failure and contributed to Vertigo shutting down and going out of business. I'm not kidding. Zoe killed what was once a massively successful comics publishing imprint. Goddess Mode is effectively cancelled, and the story will remain unfinished.
I'm sure that her artist tweeting pictures of his butthole at Ethan Van Sciver didn't help with sales. Yes, that really happened.

What's fucked up is that she got hired at Marvel and IDW after that.

 

[NotoriousD]

LOL
Goddess Mode was a complete failure and contributed to Vertigo shutting down and going out of business. I'm not kidding. Zoe killed what was once a massively successful comics publishing imprint. Goddess Mode is effectively cancelled, and the story will remain unfinished.
I'm sure that her artist tweeting pictures of his butthole at Ethan Van Sciver didn't help with sales. Yes, that really happened.

What's fucked up is that she got hired at Marvel and IDW after that.

That's...an interesting bit of news to process. The entire thing. As for her being at Marvel, what position is she in? Something decent paying or bottom of the barrel? Either way, this just proves she's abysmal in the comics industry as well, and won't exactly be coasting by in it forever. Maybe a while, but I wouldn't say a long time.

 

[BubbleButt]

Something decent paying

Most unlikely.

bottom of the barrel?

Most definitely.

 

[TheGuntMobile99]

In a weird way you have to sort of admire Chelsea. She's willing to do literally anything for success in the purest, most sociopathic anarcho-libertarian way possible. Her body is simply a tool for manipulating men she can use as a stepladder. Her own name and family mean nothing to her. The truth to her is what she makes it, lies coming as easily as firmly held beliefs. She walks forward leaving behind her a trail of annihilated careers, destroyed projects, hundreds of thousands of wasted dollars, and now even a corpse. All while having the media wrapped around her fingertip.

It's honestly impressive.

Anything except actual work, if she were Hillary Clinton or a Cartel Matriarch who put effort into her rise to power I'd be impressed

LOL
Goddess Mode was a complete failure and contributed to Vertigo shutting down and going out of business. I'm not kidding. Zoe killed what was once a massively successful comics publishing imprint. Goddess Mode is effectively cancelled, and the story will remain unfinished.
I'm sure that her artist tweeting pictures of his butthole at Ethan Van Sciver didn't help with sales. Yes, that really happened.

What's fucked up is that she got hired at Marvel and IDW after that.

I thought they just brought here on for a few issues for Marvel of Black Cat or Hellcat whatever and as an assistant writer for one-shot Addams Family book for IDW

 

[Marvel Cinematic Universe]

Not really. We've had whores ever since the first cavewoman realized some cavemen would trade seashells and shiny things for a chance at her snatch. That's the level she operates at, after all, with some sadism thrown in for spice.

Maybe. I think she operates at a much higher level than your average thot. The fact that she's built a hugely successful career and lauded as an author, game developer, etc despite having no technical skill, ability, work ethic, and her actual sales being nonexistent/abysmal is still hilarious. She's a very very talented con-artist. How many hundreds of thousands of artists have burned years of their life trying to work at Marvel? How many game developers would kill to have the media fluff their games the way they Eurogamer or Polygon sucks her taint? The fact that she lives in abject squalor is merely to do with her being a hedonist with zero ability to manage money, but it doesn't take away from the amount of money she sucks in to burn on who the fuck knows.

She's a hugo-nominated author. She's been published by Marvel. Her kickstarter project made $85,000 with nothing to show for it and nobody cares. Crash Override Network was/is a transparent scam. She's grifted her way so far that she's spoken before the United Nations. All the while being utterly talentless, a useless layabout grifter. Your average instathot cannot get anywhere near that level of success despite how many butthole pics they share. And to top it all off, she's ugly! Fucking hilarious.

 

[GameDevAnon]

That's...an interesting bit of news to process. The entire thing. As for her being at Marvel, what position is she in? Something decent paying or bottom of the barrel? Either way, this just proves she's abysmal in the comics industry as well, and won't exactly be coasting by in it forever. Maybe a while, but I wouldn't say a long time.

I thought they just brought here on for a few issues for Marvel of Black Cat or Hellcat whatever and as an assistant writer for one-shot Addams Family book for IDW

Yeah, she got brought in to write Hellcat and The Addams Family. They're supposed to be one-offs but they are a foot in the door. It's insane, I know a lot of talented writers who had tried to get into Marvel for YEARS and couldn't get an opportunity. Yet, they chose to hire someone whose only book failed so hard that it put the publisher out of business.
I was already at the point where I wanted the entire comics industry to burn to the ground, but now I want someone to drop a nuke on it.

 

[NotoriousD]

Yeah, she got brought in to write Hellcat and The Addams Family. They're supposed to be one-offs but they are a foot in the door. It's insane, I know a lot of talented writers who had tried to get into Marvel for YEARS and couldn't get an opportunity. Yet, they chose to hire someone whose only book failed so hard that it put the publisher out of business.
I was already at the point where I wanted the entire comics industry to burn to the ground, but now I want someone to drop a nuke on it.

Foot in the door or not I wholly believe she won't last long in the industry. I'm thinking along the lines of like...a few years, tops? Yeah, I can believe that. Several or a decade? I just don't see that happening. Her entire natural career until retirement? lolfuckno that won't happen.

 

[TheGuntMobile99]

Yeah, she got brought in to write Hellcat and The Addams Family. They're supposed to be one-offs but they are a foot in the door. It's insane, I know a lot of talented writers who had tried to get into Marvel for YEARS and couldn't get an opportunity. Yet, they chose to hire someone whose only book failed so hard that it put the publisher out of business.
I was already at the point where I wanted the entire comics industry to burn to the ground, but now I want someone to drop a nuke on it.

Well I mean fuck, its the comics industry, wait a year and they'll be burning their stock themselves to keep warm, I think I actually got more readership with no effort strips i threw around in grade school

 

[Archeopthryx]

Y'know I'm not in the gaming industry and the work I'm in is mostly far removed from the SJW menace. But my take is that someone like Chelsea Van Valkenburg will be gathering info/blackmail material not on her perceived enemies but her allies. She's not gonna go duck and cover or lash out against the "nazis/gamergaters/misogynists". She's going to uwu to people in her group to go on the offensive for her. And if you don't or go against her you better have a rope necktie like Alec.

If they think I'm crazy for suggesting that they should ask themselves who is the most likely to destroy their moral high ground. Is it the gamer who just tells them they are irrelevant/a bunch of cucks or THE CRAZY BITCH THEY DIPPED THEIR PENIS INTO?