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So was the civil war about slavery?
I feel like I just posted this but I can not do much better than my friend Apu.


At least initially the leaders of the South seemed to care more about it than Lincoln, he was quoted early on as saying that keeping the union together was far more important to him than the freedom of slaves. That sly mofo changed his tune once Britain started pointing out how analogous the south's situation was to that of the colonies, and how they had been eventually released. Once the war was more centered on the morality of slavery it was far easier to keep up public relations.

Historians tell me no, but I really wonder if the Confederates who claimed to care about states rights during the Civil War had any relation to the Confederates who said they cared about states rights before the Constitution came in to play. They have literally the same name for their adherents and espouse the same beliefs, after all.
Because "Allahu Ackbar" has been a problem longer than 18 years ago.
Back when Mohammedans and Mooselmen were a thing. Way better names than Muslims I feel.

*Sets my feet upon an ottoman*

If you want some "fun" search genocides from the past couple of centuries then trace the ancestry and political history of the groups being knocked out. It is astounding how the Russia and the middle east have changed since the late 1700s.
 
Fuck you; yes he did. You Shitposting nitwit.

In 100,00 years, though, if we're still here, no one will care -- there may be even GREATER Genocides to worry about as resources become strategic and scarce.

We won't be here. Not when President Rashida Tlaib invites her Palestinian friends to aloha snackbar all the Western imperialists.

I can't even spell Tlaib without looking it up, how Islamophobic of me.
 
After 4 generations, nobody in your family will even have the ability to remember you.
After 100 years, 99% of all music recorded in the last century will be forgotten.
In 250 years, around the work of one person per billion will be even nichely known, the rest buried in multi-yobybyte archives haphazardly categorized in unsearchable formats, and it's very possible not a single country that exists today will still be there.
In 500 years, practically every megacorperation/monolithic IP we can't escape from today will be out of business and be a footnote in "what to do, what not to do."
Essentially every building made in the last 200 years will be gone by 3000. Manmade landmarks will be bits of rust and rubble long before.
If humanity ever escapes Earth and recolonizes some far off planet, all nonessential records of human history will be lost.
Earth itself will be gone in around 5 billion years, and there is little chance we will ever venture outside the Milky Way as the distance between galaxies grows at an exponential rate, already far faster than the speed of light itself.
Eventually the distance becomes so severe, the night sky will grow increasingly ever so darker as light and assorted radiation from outside galaxies vanish as they're simply too slow, and our evolved descendants could quite possibly never know there's more to the universe than just the Milky Way.
Assuming we live long enough and shack up in the right solar system, the night itself could become pitch black as all stars within our galaxy wink out, with nary a moon to light up the night.
Further assuming humanity survives even past that, we're doomed to go extinct as the last star goes out, with either our fates being resigned to dying in a stellar phenomena, freezing to death, or somehow lasting long enough for us to starve or die of thirst.
Long past then, all of the black holes in the universe will evaporate, and all atomic and subatomic matter decomposes into their most basic forms.
The cosmos will become a vast ocean of pitch black emptiness, forever doomed to never see a new event ever again.
Even if the universe drops down to a lower state of energy, and a new realm of physics and matter overwrite what exists at the speed of light, it will never overtake the expansion the tides of dark matter and energy push and pull.

Tl;dr nothing you do will ever be remembered so just be selfish and have a good 90 or so years with your heartsweet.
 
All language and culture is a palimpsest of violence whose origins will never be understood and whose consequences will never be resolved. The sins and virtues of our ancestors fade back into history, while the consequences of their actions diffuse into unreadable noise. We will be equally opaque to our own descendants, and there will never be justice, resolution, or conclusion for anything that happens in our lifetimes.
 
Most events highlighted in history will almost certainly be given incidental motives, the people who can impact the world stage think on a far larger scale than what is presented. Lies have been presented as truths since the invention of print, countless questionable attacks have occurred where the population's knowledge of the events have had zero impact on how the incidents were recorded.

I do not feel it is too unreasonable that a superpower may have changed history in ways unfathomable to the average person on the street. I question when exactly Anno Domini was implemented as a widespread system, and if some common excuses for why things persisted as they did (Native Americans being referred to as Indians for 500 years and nobody questioning it when the East India Company owned most of the world's printing presses at the time? Fucking please) are overlooking some key details which would smooth out the historical record.

Why DID Constantinople get the works?

But the East India Company was founded after Columbus. Unless you just think the name would have changed earlier?

I know how history can be made less accurate to fit a narrative, or that reporting can leave out inconvenient details or even make stuff up, but you said that anything over a couple centuries old is almost certainly a complete lie. Just how big of a lie are we talking about? Did the Roman Empire not exist or something? Do you have a theory for how history actually happened? Or is it that the small lies compound on each other so that everything except the broadest strokes must be a fiction, even if not ideologically driven?
 
But the East India Company was founded after Columbus. Unless you just think the name would have changed earlier?

I know how history can be made less accurate to fit a narrative, or that reporting can leave out inconvenient details or even make stuff up, but you said that anything over a couple centuries old is almost certainly a complete lie. Just how big of a lie are we talking about? Did the Roman Empire not exist or something? Do you have a theory for how history actually happened? Or is it that the small lies compound on each other so that everything except the broadest strokes must be a fiction, even if not ideologically driven?
I am pretty sure that at some point over 500 years SOMEBODY would have said SOMETHING... unless there is a narrative that is served by confusion. While I will admit Columbus's travels were closer to the earlier land companies like Muscovy I am confident that all these religious/government organized conglomerates (there were a shockingly large amount of them) who had the goal of "opening trade with natives" and ended up dealing with genocides of said natives are all interrelated.

I strongly believe The Roman Empire existed, depending whose definition you want to go by I would buy that it has existed a bunch of times, sometimes with multiple iterations ongoing simultaneously. Granted, I am entirely convinced that the timelines were rearranged and they existed far closer to modern day than what is portrayed, but the fact that the concept of antiquity lost falls apart the moment any sort of scrutiny is cast upon it is a different subject than whether or not there was a Roman Empire.

If you want a summarized overarching theory, there was a giant nation that covered most of Asia called Tartarie. Check out 18th century maps for examples, my local library was able to pull out an old one that sated my skepticism. They seemed to be one of, if not the greatest powers in the world and are commonly known as steppe people today. You have probably heard of The Silk Road? This confederation of nations (though the mongols were at the heart, many peoples constituted the extensive lands) ran Asia and had pushed in to Europe until... something happened. Starting in the 1800s people stop talking about this once gigantic nation, and by the 1900s it has been forgotten entirely. Then you start looking at what has happened to the peoples who used to populate these lands and it paints one fuck of an ugly picture. Ukraine, Iraq, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Romania, Korea, it is fucking mind blowing how you can basically figure out the borders of this ancient nation just by looking at what areas have had a terrible last century or two.

Some fuckery happened. I can not tell you exactly what, but it feels like WW1 was the last gasp of these peoples and since then it has just been cleanup duty. The more I have dug the more nonsense I find to support the theory, like how the antagonists in WW1 were often labeled "The Huns". Kaiser Wilheim's speech feels like a shit explanation compared to the enemy being literally people who had Hun blood in their ancestry. Or how anyone who slept through high school history can name tons of ancient civilizations that did not have a fraction of the reach of these Tartarians but in all my talks I have found one fucking person who had actually heard of the damned place before? They were in maps and books in the 1800s and they dominated Asia in a way nobody ever has and then all of a sudden they are gone and nobody knows who the fuck they were. Oh, and to tie this to the beginning of my post... those land companies I mentioned? Their armies were often bigger than those of the nations where they claimed to represent. They were not creating trade routes, mofos were "inheriting" them.

I could be crazy... but the flag of the East India Trade Company
2880px-Flag_of_the_British_East_India_Company_%281801%29.svg.png

...and the first official flag of the US...

450px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%281776%E2%80%931777%29.svg.png


seem just a bit too similar to be coincidence to me.
 
I am pretty sure that at some point over 500 years SOMEBODY would have said SOMETHING... unless there is a narrative that is served by confusion. While I will admit Columbus's travels were closer to the earlier land companies like Muscovy I am confident that all these religious/government organized conglomerates (there were a shockingly large amount of them) who had the goal of "opening trade with natives" and ended up dealing with genocides of said natives are all interrelated.

I strongly believe The Roman Empire existed, depending whose definition you want to go by I would buy that it has existed a bunch of times, sometimes with multiple iterations ongoing simultaneously. Granted, I am entirely convinced that the timelines were rearranged and they existed far closer to modern day than what is portrayed, but the fact that the concept of antiquity lost falls apart the moment any sort of scrutiny is cast upon it is a different subject than whether or not there was a Roman Empire.

If you want a summarized overarching theory, there was a giant nation that covered most of Asia called Tartarie. Check out 18th century maps for examples, my local library was able to pull out an old one that sated my skepticism. They seemed to be one of, if not the greatest powers in the world and are commonly known as steppe people today. You have probably heard of The Silk Road? This confederation of nations (though the mongols were at the heart, many peoples constituted the extensive lands) ran Asia and had pushed in to Europe until... something happened. Starting in the 1800s people stop talking about this once gigantic nation, and by the 1900s it has been forgotten entirely. Then you start looking at what has happened to the peoples who used to populate these lands and it paints one fuck of an ugly picture. Ukraine, Iraq, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Romania, Korea, it is fucking mind blowing how you can basically figure out the borders of this ancient nation just by looking at what areas have had a terrible last century or two.

Some fuckery happened. I can not tell you exactly what, but it feels like WW1 was the last gasp of these peoples and since then it has just been cleanup duty. The more I have dug the more nonsense I find to support the theory, like how the antagonists in WW1 were often labeled "The Huns". Kaiser Wilheim's speech feels like a shit explanation compared to the enemy being literally people who had Hun blood in their ancestry. Or how anyone who slept through high school history can name tons of ancient civilizations that did not have a fraction of the reach of these Tartarians but in all my talks I have found one fucking person who had actually heard of the damned place before? They were in maps and books in the 1800s and they dominated Asia in a way nobody ever has and then all of a sudden they are gone and nobody knows who the fuck they were. Oh, and to tie this to the beginning of my post... those land companies I mentioned? Their armies were often bigger than those of the nations where they claimed to represent. They were not creating trade routes, mofos were "inheriting" them.

I could be crazy... but the flag of the East India Trade Company


...and the first official flag of the US...

450px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%281776%E2%80%931777%29.svg.png


seem just a bit too similar to be coincidence to me.

Thanks for spelling it out for me senpai. I have heard of Tartary and of the possibility that centuries were added to the calendar. But I'd never given it much thought. (Assumed it was a generic name for a stretch of land.) Looking down this rabbit hole, I'm starting to see what you mean about the amount of fiction that could be in history.
 
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To ban 3d printed weapons and weapon platforms almost all internet traffic is going to be heavily moderated and torrenting will be stopped in some way. One day technical knowledge will be regulated as well. Have fun filling out the paperwork for your programming textbook after completing your mandatory background check for purchasing 3d modeling software.

Drones can be 3d printed, so can fully automatic firearms with the right modifications.


Its not hard to imagine how quickly Congress is going to have a fit once someone makes an open source weapons platform that can be made from Ebay electronics, then releases the instructions for how to make it online.

Using open source software you cam program machines to detect humans, judge the distance to them, and do ballistics calculations.

You can also make guided missiles and rockets.

We stand on the edge between government control of our lives through technology, and complete anarchy through open source. Every time open source tech becomes more powerful, the government becomes more authoritative for "our protection".

Soon open source biology and chemistry will be more powerful. Biohacking is already seen as a threat. It is no longer government backed researchers in multi billion dollar laboratories manufacturing superbugs, in 30 years it will be teenagers in their parents garage.
 
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To ban 3d printed weapons and weapon platforms almost all internet traffic is going to be heavily moderated and torrenting will be stopped in some way. One day technical knowledge will be regulated as well. Have fun filling out the paperwork for your programming textbook after completing your mandatory background check for purchasing 3d modeling software.

Drones can be 3d printed, so can fully automatic firearms with the right modifications.


Its not hard to imagine how quickly Congress is going to have a fit once someone makes an open source weapons platform that can be made from Ebay electronics, then releases the instructions for how to make it online.

Using open source software you cam program machines to detect humans, judge the distance to them, and do ballistics calculations.

You can also make guided missiles and rockets.

We stand on the edge between government control of our lives through technology, and complete anarchy through open source. Every time open source tech becomes more powerful, the government becomes more authoritative for "our protection".

Soon open source biology and chemistry will be more powerful. Biohacking is already seen as a threat. It is no longer government backed researchers in multi billion dollar laboratories manufacturing superbugs, in 30 years it will be teenagers in their parents garage.

Yeah yeah that’s good and all but can I 3D print a girlfriend or not?
 
you know when you think about it technology is going to or has reached the point where AIs can mimic voices and accents to the point that your favorite streamers have given enough of their vocal fingerprint to essentially be replaced whenever they drop dead. And the kicker is you'd never know they weren't the original. You'd be unable to tell with deepfake technology. A walking zombie wearing someone else's face and voice. A hell where your bones are unable to rest dancing on a string for children for all eternity.
 
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Thanks for spelling it out for me senpai. I have heard of Tartary and of the possibility that centuries were added to the calendar. But I'd never given it much thought. (Assumed it was a generic name for a stretch of land.) Looking down this rabbit hole, I'm starting to see what you mean about the amount of fiction that could be in history.
I am no expert, just somebody who has gone out of their way to dig a bit deeper than most.

Here's a fun one, astronomers can now tell reliably when many astrological events happened in history using the fairly predictable patterns most of these bodies take. Cross reference this with when historians claim that ancient eclipses happened and you will often have hundreds of years of discrepancy.

I can only bump in to so many issues like that before I get curious enough to do my own research. A lot of this shit is not well hidden at all.
 
I am pretty sure that at some point over 500 years SOMEBODY would have said SOMETHING... unless there is a narrative that is served by confusion. While I will admit Columbus's travels were closer to the earlier land companies like Muscovy I am confident that all these religious/government organized conglomerates (there were a shockingly large amount of them) who had the goal of "opening trade with natives" and ended up dealing with genocides of said natives are all interrelated.

I strongly believe The Roman Empire existed, depending whose definition you want to go by I would buy that it has existed a bunch of times, sometimes with multiple iterations ongoing simultaneously. Granted, I am entirely convinced that the timelines were rearranged and they existed far closer to modern day than what is portrayed, but the fact that the concept of antiquity lost falls apart the moment any sort of scrutiny is cast upon it is a different subject than whether or not there was a Roman Empire.

If you want a summarized overarching theory, there was a giant nation that covered most of Asia called Tartarie. Check out 18th century maps for examples, my local library was able to pull out an old one that sated my skepticism. They seemed to be one of, if not the greatest powers in the world and are commonly known as steppe people today. You have probably heard of The Silk Road? This confederation of nations (though the mongols were at the heart, many peoples constituted the extensive lands) ran Asia and had pushed in to Europe until... something happened. Starting in the 1800s people stop talking about this once gigantic nation, and by the 1900s it has been forgotten entirely. Then you start looking at what has happened to the peoples who used to populate these lands and it paints one fuck of an ugly picture. Ukraine, Iraq, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Romania, Korea, it is fucking mind blowing how you can basically figure out the borders of this ancient nation just by looking at what areas have had a terrible last century or two.

Some fuckery happened. I can not tell you exactly what, but it feels like WW1 was the last gasp of these peoples and since then it has just been cleanup duty. The more I have dug the more nonsense I find to support the theory, like how the antagonists in WW1 were often labeled "The Huns". Kaiser Wilheim's speech feels like a shit explanation compared to the enemy being literally people who had Hun blood in their ancestry. Or how anyone who slept through high school history can name tons of ancient civilizations that did not have a fraction of the reach of these Tartarians but in all my talks I have found one fucking person who had actually heard of the damned place before? They were in maps and books in the 1800s and they dominated Asia in a way nobody ever has and then all of a sudden they are gone and nobody knows who the fuck they were. Oh, and to tie this to the beginning of my post... those land companies I mentioned? Their armies were often bigger than those of the nations where they claimed to represent. They were not creating trade routes, mofos were "inheriting" them.

I could be crazy... but the flag of the East India Trade Company


...and the first official flag of the US...

450px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%281776%E2%80%931777%29.svg.png


seem just a bit too similar to be coincidence to me.
Tartary was just a name for the Eurasian steppe that was owned by a bunch of different horsefuckers, it was only ever united under the Gokturks, Mongolia and Russia.
 
Tartary was just a name for the Eurasian steppe that was owned by a bunch of different horsefuckers, it was only ever united under the Gokturks, Mongolia and Russia.
Alternatively the Chinese word for Barbarian was Ta-Ta and historians just prefer to use the word Tatar, it all depends which books you wish to believe. Not saying yours are wrong (and I agree that the widespread obsession with all things Tartaria is overblown) but I am absolutely confident turko-mongolic steppe people were a far bigger deal than what is commonly talked about these days. The history of how the land companies acted throughout Asia and the world at large is far from subtle.

As to what lands they owned...

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That is pretty far south for Mongolia. I guess it may have been considered Mongolia at one time, or maybe we are talking Russia as in the whole fucking USSR plus a chunk of China, but they seemed like major players.
 
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Alternatively the Chinese word for Barbarian was Ta-Ta and historians just prefer to use the word Tatar, it all depends which books you wish to believe. Not saying yours are wrong (and I agree that the widespread obsession with all things Tartaria is overblown) but I am absolutely confident turko-mongolic steppe people were a far bigger deal than what is commonly talked about these days. The history of how the land companies acted throughout Asia and the world at large is far from subtle.

As to what lands they owned...

iu


That is pretty far south for Mongolia. I guess it may have been considered Mongolia at one time, or maybe we are talking Russia as in the whole fucking USSR plus a chunk of China, but they seemed like major players.
All of this is basically the equivalent of we wuzzing that there was a Pan African KANGZ empire because our maps call it Africa.
 
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