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[Libtard-Wrecking Krogoth]

it's not a totalitarian takeover if you call it democracy*



*brexit isn't technically democracy because something something fascism

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Yeah, I'm just gonna glaze over the /k/ sperging and deep thoughts toilet posting on mass shootings and just wait for more stupid shit to be spewed by people who have been angry for over three years.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that @The Last Stand was being deliberately disingenuous on the issue of guns, gun control, gun violence, gun rights, and mass shootings.

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>illegitimate Supreme Court

I'm going to guess it's "illegitimate" solely because the conservative Gorsuch and the super-dee-duper rapist Kavanaugh are on it.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

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Yeah, because when Hilary lost, no one pitched a massive fit or started federal investigations based on nothing at all....

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Notice how it’s only the Democrats calling for this.

Dem presidential candidates call for Kavanaugh's impeachment - Breitbart

WASHINGTON (AP) — At least three Democratic presidential candidates are calling openly for the impeachment of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh in the

www.breitbart.com

 

[breadandcircuses]

It's only authoritarian totalitarianism when the Right does it!

 

[Flexo]

Guns in the 60s and 70s likely accounted to rifles, handguns, and shotguns. The semi-automatics were reserved for military or police.

Literally not true. Semi auto rifles and handguns have been commercially available for decades before that. The very first semi-auto rifle was invented in 1885.

 

[heyitsmike]

"It was a Flamenco dancer, you moron!" And there they go again, just cementing the point that he was trying to make without even realizing it.

 

[Vorhtbame]

Notice how it’s only the Democrats calling for this.

Dem presidential candidates call for Kavanaugh's impeachment - Breitbart

WASHINGTON (AP) — At least three Democratic presidential candidates are calling openly for the impeachment of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh in the

www.breitbart.com

I didn't realize that Progress meant continuing to go back over and over to the same failures.

 

[HumanHive]

Define availability. This may sound like backtracking, but to answer the bolded question: where and how are people able to obtain guns like Tec-9s, 9mms, Uzi with the black market? I know gun shops exists, but only in the outskirts of town.

Guns in the 60s and 70s likely accounted to rifles, handguns, and shotguns. The semi-automatics were reserved for military or police. It sounds like with the 60s and 70s, schoolchildren owning guns was a common thing, but after segregation ended, there has been a sudden influx of urban gun violence with those aforementioned guns coming out of nowhere.

Fun fact: prior to the 1930's, fully automatic weapons were legal for all to own. No school shootings. Odd, that.

 

[Bongsnake McGee]

Guns in the 60s and 70s likely accounted to rifles, handguns, and shotguns. The semi-automatics were reserved for military or police. It sounds like with the 60s and 70s, schoolchildren owning guns was a common thing, but after segregation ended, there has been a sudden influx of urban gun violence with those aforementioned guns coming out of nowhere.

Fun fact number 2: Fully automatic weapons are still legal for all to own, depending on your state of residence, and only spiked up into unobtanium prices on the open market within the last 20 years due to governmental enforced scarcity - the machine gun registry, the thing the government implemented in the 30s that @HumanHive above alludes to - was closed in the 80s, preventing the registration of new, fully automatic firearms for personal use.

Fun fact number 3: Supressors, you know the things that are fully legal in noguns europe and are a requirement for hunters over there to not be a nuisance, are controlled by the same laws that control full-auto funguns. Except their registry isn't closed yet.

Perfect example of the slippery slope argument, btw.

 

[Coconut Gun]

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Are they unaware of how they're getting played like fiddles, or are they aware, but don't care as long as talking about Trump gets them clicks/ratings?

 

[heyitsmike]

Are they unaware of how they're getting played like fiddles, or are they aware, but don't care as long as talking about Trump gets them clicks/ratings?

At this point I don't even think it's about the clicks, though it is a fringe benefit for them. I think that it's primarily driven by their TDS and their visceral need to attack him. They're anti-Trump junkies and simply can't pass up an opportunity to get a hate fix.

 

[CamelCursive]

Yes, that's called hip-fire. Of course you shouldn't hold a hand gun with one hand to ensure maximum accuracy and usage.

Hip-firing doesn't work. You've never put your dainty bitch-hands on a gun, stick to your vidya games.

Fair enough. Riddle me this then: vaping, video games, Planned Parenthood (abortion), immigration, student loans. A few things that the government wants to try to regulate and control, but when it comes to guns: there's a hissy fit of why they should be maintained and regulated.

Because the guns are there to regulate the government. See, they need something out there to keep them from regulating too fucking much of peoples' lives.

Are gun drills during a school year supposed to be normal? Or having bulletproof backpacks? Considering it mainly happens in suburbia, it has people up in arms about safety but when it comes to "urban" areas, they just let it go and declare it "gang shootings", despite that you could argue that they would classify as mass shootings given their frequency and lack of control.

I don't care if the 'gun drill' is supposed to be normal. I care about implementing safety measures to protect children. Our schools aren't busting into flames all the time, or getting inhaled by tornados, or fucking bombed- and yet we have drills for those.

The NRA uses this as a perfect opportunity for funding and get people in hysteria so they could inflate their influence.

Darn that evil NRA, with all their... free firearms safety training they keep offering.

If banning or discussing guns won't work, what would be a solution to the mass shooting epidemic in America? I'm asking gun owners.

Any time someone considers shooting a bunch of people, they should be deterred. Armed citizens deter this.

Of all the problems we have in society, why is this one the ONLY issue you faggots require a zero-sum solution for? Do you think these things will ever go away completely? You're a fucking idiot if you think so.

Thank you for playing, now go back to sucking your soy through your cock-shaped bottle.

 

[Bad_Guys_are_Good4EVER]

Brett Kavanaugh is under attack again. Poor guy can't catch a break.

Trump defends Brett Kavanaugh, Democrats call for impeachment amid new sexual misconduct claims

According to this article there "new corroboration" that Kavanaugh exposed himself to Deborah Ramirez at Yale. This of course comes at a crucial time for which the Democrats are trying to get rid of Trump. It all feels to good to be true. Can't wait to see this blow up in the Dems faces.

 

[Flexo]

Note that rise of mass shootings are not correlated with rates of gun ownership, but do with the emergence of the 24/7 news environment and social media.

It's also correlated to a decrease in religion and fathers in home.

What if we made a deal with the left? We'll regulate feminism the equal of their gun regulations.

Now with that said, I've always had a problem with being able to walk into a gun shop and walk out with a rifle assuming I have the money to pay for it then and there. It's definitely neat and works in my favor as a person that wants a gun, but I wouldn't have a problem with slowing that process down with waiting periods and background checks. That's perfectly reasonable to me.

Rated you disagree for this because... have you tried?

No really. Not rhetorical. Have you tried purchasing a gun?

Columnist fails gun check, blames store owners

A newspaper columnist is crying foul after a gun store rejected his application to purchase a firearm following a background check that uncovered his "admitted history of alcohol abuse, and a charge for domestic battery involving his wife."

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Bad_Guys_are_Good4EVER]

Now with that said, I've always had a problem with being able to walk into a gun shop and walk out with a rifle assuming I have the money to pay for it then and there. It's definitely neat and works in my favor as a person that wants a gun, but I wouldn't have a problem with slowing that process down with waiting periods and background checks. That's perfectly reasonable to me. Though I highly doubt that will solve mass shooting suicides because a lot of these people already had the guns to begin with. The thing that changed was that at some point after they purchased the gun, they lost all hope and became despondent. And in that state you become susceptible to all kinds of bad forms of suggestion and you generally make very poor, self-destructive decisions.

It's really hard to walk out of a gun store with a rifle within an hour, depending on the store. Mostly because gun stores already do extensive background checks, how long depends on your kind of background that you have. But most of the time you are probably put on a waiting period. Depending on the store and their policies.

 

[CamelCursive]

Now with that said, I've always had a problem with being able to walk into a gun shop and walk out with a rifle assuming I have the money to pay for it then and there. It's definitely neat and works in my favor as a person that wants a gun, but I wouldn't have a problem with slowing that process down with waiting periods and background checks.

You have a problem with... a background check taking only a few moments? So, I don't know how you missed this, but you see- we have this "internet" thing and it allows people to transfer information quickly from one place to another, almost instantly. Back in the day, we had to use this thing called "The Mail" which took several days, sometimes weeks- hence, the background check "waiting period".

 

[JambledUpWords]

That’s a lot of effort for President Pence and a Pence appointed Supreme Court Justice.

 

[CamelCursive]

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That’s a lot of effort for President Pence and a Pence appointed Supreme Court Justice.

The fact that the left seems to think you can just form a giant mob and scream in the streets in order to impeach a politician or put someone in prison is the exact reason why I believe there should be a requirement to pass a U.S. Government test in order to vote.

Because the way it stands, not only would most of the left fail out of voting, we'd have to start seriously considering mass sterilization of the left.

These people sometimes make me really, really wonder if a hidden component of American society secretly got together and staged one of the most elaboration trolling hoaxes just to fuck with people like me, because I still can't understand how one becomes this stupid without significant cranial trauma.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Originally the Taliban offered Bin Laden to the U.S. under conditions he'd not be executed and the U.S. refused, and the war was waged against them because they opposed U.S. troops entering Afganistan, he was in Pakistan at that point. Killing Bin Laden purposely denied victims a chance at pursuing justice and investigators (worldwide) the opportunity to map out his terrorist network and the criminals who enabled and associated with him. It is right up there with Jeffrey Epstein dying. Saddam unlike Bin Laden had a trial and was available for investigators willing to see him in Iraq, whether the right questions or inquiries were made to him prior to his execution is a whole other matter. Executing Bin Laden without a trial is a war crime, whereas inviting the Taliban to the Whitehouse after 17 years of war in Afganistan is an effort to conclude the war and negotiate an end to hostilities. The Taliban is a tribal-based government recognized by a large portion of the Afghan population. Negotiating a withdrawal that lays out incentives for it to also cease its war vs the Afghanistan Islamic Republic is essential or it'll spiral to civil war.

Bin Ladin being killed was a necessary deal for a couple of reasons:

1. No way would Bin Ladin allow himself to be taken alive and there was a good chance Bin Ladin would have killed himself had he had enough time to do so, to deny Seal Team 6 killing him or taking him alive

2. Keeping Bin Ladin alive for trial would have opened a pandora's box of hell on earth, with his supporters doing all sorts of hellish, nightmarish acts of violence and terrorism in order to try and force the US to let Bin Ladin go free.

3. Which also ties into the logistics of putting Bin Ladin on trial and the US fearing that any trial would de-evolve into a three ring circus, with Bin Ladin treating the trial as his own personal soap box to get his supporters and sympathizes to kill more innocent people as payback for his capture and for his inevitable execution.

Also, you can make a case that negotiating with the Taliban itself is similar to the right's internal logic for opposing the Iranian deal Obama struck.

The only reason we are still in Afghanistan is because the moment we pull out? The Taliban will pull a North Vietnam and steamroll the non-Taliban provisional government and Afghanistan once again becomes Margaret Atwood's Gilead: Islam Edition. The Taliban has openly said this for YEARS and hedged this with their usual cockroach level ability to endure and outlast EVERYONE who fights them.

There is a reason WHY Afghanistan is considered the "graveyard of empires" and why the Taliban were able to force the USSR to turn tail after nearly a decade. They are fanatics and the worst kind of fanatics: those who play the long game, have home field advantage, and who through their fanatic religious dogma (which equates jihad/martyrdom as the best way to secure a place in heaven's VIP section) see a war of attrition as a GOOD thing. And that saod war of attrition will work in their favor in the end, because the US and even Russia, don't have the Taliban's nihilistic view on human lives being dispossible on the scale that the Taliban/Fundie Islam see it.

And the chief reason the US hasn't bailed on Afghanistan is that unlike North Vietnam, which ultimately forgave the US once they beat South Vietnam/unified Vietnam and didn't start shit with us again, is that the US knows that the Taliban (if and when they retake Afghanistan) WILL continue to torment and threaten the US in some shape, way or other. And no one wants to be the Chamberlain and declare a withdrawal from/peace in Afghanistan only for the Taliban to take over again and then carry out another massive terror attack using Afghanistan as the planning ground.