Sluthate.com

[Meowthkip]

I guess what Fonduman was trying to do was prove how today's culture is awful towards people who aren't "normal" and modern culture in general is toxic as fuck. For all intents and purposes, I think Fonduman, like me, is trying to prove that the dateless/incel crowd aren't monsters and we're just misunderstood.

Though for me, this is not an experiment in any way, shape or form. Yes today's modern culture is toxic but there are those trying to adapt to it only to fail and fall flat on their face. I'm not saying that you guys are totally in the right for having a forum dedicated to making fun of non-normies (though all of you are very sincere and friendly to these non normies if they're polite back and you're supportive of self improvement).

The LS forum is no better either by letting itself becoming this toxic. I honestly think that most of the LS forum members should come to this forum and just talk it out with you guys.

Nobody thinks these guys are monsters. They come off like selfish crybabies.

It sucks not being able to get a date, but these guys are turning to all the wrong people for support. And if they weren't assholes before, they will become them hanging around sites like SlutHate.

Just sayin'.

 

[SU 390]

Nobody thinks these guys are monsters. They come off like selfish crybabies.

It sucks not being able to get a date, but these guys are turning to all the wrong people for support. And if they weren't assholes before, they will become them hanging around sites like SlutHate.

Just sayin'.

It's true with what you said, but then again, they never had much support to begin with. It's better to find others who share the same life experiences than others who don't understand you whatsoever. There's no much you can do to convince them that what they're doing is wrong in terms of looking for support. They may open their eyes one day.

 

[melty]

I don't think these guys are monsters, or even some of the trp guys for that matter. I've tried to think of various ways I could help them but I'm probably not good enough of a person to actually do anything.

 

[SU 390]

I don't think these guys are monsters, or even some of the trp guys for that matter. I've tried to think of various ways I could help them but I'm probably not good enough of a person to actually do anything.

Being good/not good enough is subjective. The problem here is that everyone live different lives. Those who aren't successful in dating are going to be envious of those who are successful. Whether they attempt to become successful or not always end up regretting that they didn't do it sooner. Years go by fast so I can see why this crowd of people are bitter. "You have a hard time getting a date or securing a relationship, but people who seem like shit are doing better in dating than you? There's something wrong here!"

Another problem is that they're exposed or constantly finding themselves exposed to everyone having a great dating/sex life. It would be better to try to steer them away from something that makes them angry most of the time. It's hard to do that in a small world like ours, but it helps to bring them to that path of positivity rather than exposing them to shit all the time.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

I honestly think that most of the LS forum members should come to this forum and just talk it out with you guys.

Aw, that's a nice sentiment, but in practice? I think @Pine Tar already called it:

This thread is the MRA version of the Vade thread.

 

[2al]

Nah, he's legit. Fonduman dated a Singaporean girl for about two years, and she joined the Loveshy forums, I believe her name is "Enginehead". Here is a picture of them together:

As you can see he is a rather obese individual, but they seem to make a good match and make each other happy. He wasn't the worst member of their site, and although he comes across as a smug asshole he never bought into Fschmidt's bullshit either, so for that he gets a few bonus points.

Apparently he always mentioned women he dated on the forum, and when one of them dumped him he threatened to commit suicide, even writing a thread and telling people he just slit his wrists. He survived, but freaked a lot of people out because he was offline quite long. After that they all called him an attention whore, and some even believed his GF was fake and he was Peter Coffin'ing them.

Talked to him a few times, and also to his girlfriend. She's actually a pretty nice girl, but very insecure of herself and with extremely controlling parents who went as far as to steal her passport and call the police when she tried to meet her boyfriend (Fonduman lives in Ireland). She was not allowed into the country on her first stay, but had better luck last year on her second visit, which is when they got married.

Does he run Sluthate?

 

[Mrs Paul]

If you stop and think about it, aren't these guys the REAL sluts? Since all they care about is sex.

 

[DuskEngine]

Nobody thinks these guys are monsters. They come off like selfish crybabies.

We have at least two threads dedicated to loveshies/incels/whatever we widely agree are fairly monstrous.

Another problem is that they're exposed or constantly finding themselves exposed to everyone having a great dating/sex life.

But that's just not true. Half of adult America is single.

 

[Cuck Norris]

We have at least two threads dedicated to loveshies/incels/whatever we widely agree are fairly monstrous.


But that's just not true. Half of adult America is single.

Naw, we would think they were monsters if they weren't impotent crybaby fedora tippers that never leave the basement. In their basement they're just pathetic.

 

[Foulmouth]

If you stop and think about it, aren't these guys the REAL sluts? Since all they care about is sex.

I think the word you're looking for is wanker, not slut.

 

[A-№1]

Turns out mooooo was a really shitty mole.

Also a pretty obvious one.

Spoiler

And then someone had to go and ban him before he doxxed himself. I was kind of interested in finding out how far he was willing to go to demonstrate his bona fides. Was he going to go ahead and foolishly post a CV? Now we'll never know.

As for fat people, fat people can be pretty chill. I have a fat uncle and he's an awesome guitarist and life enthusiast. He's happily married because unlike some people, he's not a gigantic faggot.

Santa Claus is fat. What do people have against Santa Claus? Hell, I'm fat. What do people have against hobos?

Also, to get the thread back on topic: Fonduman is one of the least shitty Loveshy guys. And since he's now happily married, he probably doesn't even count as one anymore.

I wonder why they haven't turned on him. Isn't that their usual operating procedure?

Thanks for the protip on the footnotes.

Yer welcome.

Oh no. I typed that down for sarcasm reasons because it's all you see on the LS, MGTOW, ROK and Red Pill forums, sites, etc that it becomes a common trope. I find it to be pure jealously towards the males and females that these crowds throw their impotent anger at.

I don't actually know what those acronyms mean (though I've seen "red pill" enough to know it's usually a warning sign for "spergy babble ahead"), but I assume they're flavors of pick up artists / etc. Regardless, though, the fact that you mention websites specifically makes me think that that's the commonality of behavior there rather than their particular philosophies. In other words, I'm certain there are relatively reasonable, rational, logical people in these groups, but those are not the ones who go on online forums to babble on about their philosophies. Even if a forum starts out with the intent to be reasonable and rational, it's been my observation that without constant vigilance¹ such forums almost immediately get colonized and dominated by spergs anyways. And then the forum becomes an echo chamber of spergery, and it all spirals downwards.

That being said, any website with a name like sluthate.com obviously hasn't bothered even starting out rational or reasonable.

If you stop and think about it, aren't these guys the REAL sluts? Since all they care about is sex.

I'm reasonably sure sluts have to actually get sex. Also I don't think sluts are necessarily obsessively for sex so much that they're just never, ever against it.

But that's just not true. Half of adult America is single.

Being single does not preclude one from having a satisfying sex life.
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¹All Hail Null!

 

[DuskEngine]

Being single does not preclude one from having a satisfying sex life.

Absolutely, yeah. I was just responding to that whole "everyone has someone but me" feeling Vagabond was talking about. It's hard to avoid it sometimes.

 

[SU 390]

We have at least two threads dedicated to loveshies/incels/whatever we widely agree are fairly monstrous.


But that's just not true. Half of adult America is single.

Tell that to them. I highly doubt they'll believe it. I'll find a few threads that they will deny it.

Also a pretty obvious one.

Spoiler

And then someone had to go and ban him before he doxxed himself. I was kind of interested in finding out how far he was willing to go to demonstrate his bona fides. Was he going to go ahead and foolishly post a CV? Now we'll never know.

Santa Claus is fat. What do people have against Santa Claus? Hell, I'm fat. What do people have against hobos?

I wonder why they haven't turned on him. Isn't that their usual operating procedure?


Yer welcome.

I don't actually know what those acronyms mean (though I've seen "red pill" enough to know it's usually a warning sign for "spergy babble ahead"), but I assume they're flavors of pick up artists / etc. Regardless, though, the fact that you mention websites specifically makes me think that that's the commonality of behavior there rather than their particular philosophies. In other words, I'm certain there are relatively reasonable, rational, logical people in these groups, but those are not the ones who go on online forums to babble on about their philosophies. Even if a forum starts out with the intent to be reasonable and rational, it's been my observation that without constant vigilance¹ such forums almost immediately get colonized and dominated by spergs anyways. And then the forum becomes an echo chamber of spergery, and it all spirals downwards.

That being said, any website with a name like sluthate.com obviously hasn't bothered even starting out rational or reasonable.


I'm reasonably sure sluts have to actually get sex. Also I don't think sluts are necessarily obsessively for sex so much that they're just never, ever against it.


Being single does not preclude one from having a satisfying sex life.
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¹All Hail Null!

Oh sorry about the acronyms. I have problems with 75-90% of acronyms on the interwebs.

LS: Love Shy
MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way
ROK: Return of Kings

Also a pretty obvious one.

Spoiler

And then someone had to go and ban him before he doxxed himself. I was kind of interested in finding out how far he was willing to go to demonstrate his bona fides. Was he going to go ahead and foolishly post a CV? Now we'll never know.

Santa Claus is fat. What do people have against Santa Claus? Hell, I'm fat. What do people have against hobos?

I wonder why they haven't turned on him. Isn't that their usual operating procedure?


Yer welcome.

I don't actually know what those acronyms mean (though I've seen "red pill" enough to know it's usually a warning sign for "spergy babble ahead"), but I assume they're flavors of pick up artists / etc. Regardless, though, the fact that you mention websites specifically makes me think that that's the commonality of behavior there rather than their particular philosophies. In other words, I'm certain there are relatively reasonable, rational, logical people in these groups, but those are not the ones who go on online forums to babble on about their philosophies. Even if a forum starts out with the intent to be reasonable and rational, it's been my observation that without constant vigilance¹ such forums almost immediately get colonized and dominated by spergs anyways. And then the forum becomes an echo chamber of spergery, and it all spirals downwards.

That being said, any website with a name like sluthate.com obviously hasn't bothered even starting out rational or reasonable.


I'm reasonably sure sluts have to actually get sex. Also I don't think sluts are necessarily obsessively for sex so much that they're just never, ever against it.


Being single does not preclude one from having a satisfying sex life.
__
¹All Hail Null!

Being single does not preclude one from having a satisfying sex life.

Pretty much this.

Since I can't find the Love Shy 2 thread. I thought I would post this since it's an intriguing read.

Spoiler: Thread titled: I've been thinking. What if we aren't the problem?

It's been a while since I've been to this site but I wanted to offer the results of my research and experience on a pattern I'm seeing.

I hate the fact that so many good men are suffering. I hate the fact that it pushes some guys to the point of violent extremism (George Sodini, Elliot rodgers, etc.) Most of all, I hate the fact that society as a whole, is blind to what is really going on. I think it's important to understand that we (men) are participating in a massive social engineering project; some of the purposes of which are population control and economic domination. Everything from affirmative action, the family court system, to the medical and educational systems, are set up to give women a disadvantage over men; A sort of 'handicap' to compensate women for being (typically) physically weaker and less aggressive than men. What does this have to do with population and the economy?

The economic side:
The third biological directive (mating/reproduction) is very expensive and our leaders seek to capitalize on this basic human need. Political agendas such as feminism now allow our leaders to tax the other 50% of the population. The institution of marriage, the divorce industry and the family court system serve as revenue generation services for our government. (Most) women are primarily resource driven; they will seek to earn their own resources, and still insist on benefiting from their partner's resources (chivalry, dating, marriage, etc.). This spurs men to try to 'maintain' the expense of a relationship. More money spent, requires more money earned. More money earned means more taxable income. The tendency of women towards hypergamy further exacerbates this issue.

The population side:
Society's effort to elevate the status of women, combined with Disney/Hollywood media efforts, has resulted in many women feeling 'entitled'. Men are being shut out of 'DSR' in increasing numbers, as women's standards for a mate become less attainable for the average male. Social media has created a constant barrage of anti-male propaganda that women buy into, causing them to raise their demands even higher. Our medical and educational systems heavily drug boys to make them less aggressive and assertive then they are placed in a situation where girls get special treatment and boys get put down. You'll find that an increasing number of young men do not know how to interact with women. They grow up and are lectured on 'rape culture' and find that simply expressing an interest in a woman can land them in legal trouble; some of them learn the hard way. These obstacles prove to be nearly insurmountable and some of them become like us; LS, incel, grass-eaters, etc. and eventually give up. Now, marriage rates are falling, divorce rates float around 40-50% and less men seem interested in marriage; stating that it's not worth the risk. Older men who have experiened divorce and child support/custody issues have been burned and are starting to limit their interaction with women. If this keeps up, population growth could theoretically eventually stop and we may see a slow decrease in the number of people in nations subject to this kind of agenda.

I've always been a little on the shy side but I have been on dates. I had several opportunities to advance in DSR between 2006-2008; eventually leading to a relationship but something has changed recently that has made women almost impossible to deal with. What I've witnessed has shown me that there is nothing inherently wrong with me or any of the men on this forum. Society has purposely put an obstacle in the path of all men that we specifically are not equipped to deal with. I find it ironic that I had never heard any of the terms 'love-shy', 'incel', 'sexodus', 'MRA', MGTOW, or 'marriage strike' before 2005. Now I'm astounded by what my Google searches pull up these days; articles/blogs that simply didn't exist 6 months ago.

Something fucked up is going on; It snuck up on us in the form of texting, Homer Simpson and Disney movies and now it's in the advanced stages. The men on this site are simply the first affected by the change. My sources suggest that a divide and conquer strategy is being played out; get everyone lonely, anti-social and demoralized so they no longer have any loyalty to each other. Then, they'll be less willing to oppose the 'powers that be' when they start making all kinds of ridiculous laws, taking away people's rights and making it harder for them to simply exist.

I'm really curious to see what your opinions are about this.

Your thoughts?

Spoiler: More from the same thread

Nope. Accept the the world is chaotic. The "powers that be"/NWO people do not exist and only serve to help people who cannot understand that the world is a chaotic place. It's their version of the tooth fairy

You may be assuming too much here. I'm not worried about the conspiracies to take over the world; they already control it and are merely tightening their grip to squeeze out some extra cash. Rest assured; If we are in the matrix, I DO NOT have the 'off' switch and I am not foolish enough to think that simply shutting the program off will fix anything. Too many people are spiritually, psychologically and financially addicted to this illusion for it to be easily (much less, safely) dismantled.

What I'm pointing at is a set of very convenient circumstances that may be part of a growing trend; possibly (probably) done on purpose. The only people who really stand to benefit from all of this are the people who already have all the wealth and power. Can I prove it in court? Nope. Do I see a connection between all this women's rights propaganda, the mockery of the male half of the species and a rapid increase in the amount of difficulty men (all men) have finding a mate followed by our subsequent retreat? You're damn right I do.

You don't have to believe in secret societies to see that something HAS happened in the past decade that made our chances with women go from 'unlikely' to 'impossible'. I'm curious to see what others of 'my kind' think about this.

Do you deny/disagree with any of the specific observations I made above?

Spoiler: More from cerebral_barrier, the topic creator

A very interesting exchange,

It's obvious that some of you see what is going on and I'm glad that we are slowly starting to get away from the conspiracy theory/Illuminati line of thinking. That isn't the focus of this discussion. I'm trying to provoke some critical thinking from others who are experiencing the same difficulties I'm having.

The end goal is to find a way to navigate, dismantle, bypass, or abstain from this matrix like system in ways that do not compromise our morals (if you have them), identity (if you actually know who/what you are) or finances. We need to find a way to truly enjoy existence; with women if possible or without them if necessary.

Like it or not, we are all subject to a plan, the purpose of which is to, exploit all three of our biological directives; Resource gathering, shelter acquisition/fortification and mating/reproduction competition. Our need to survive and thrive is maliciously being used against us by extremely intelligent and crooked people. "The powers that be" that I mention are your world's leaders/governments, corporations, and the media but I'm sure you already (even if only subconsciously) know that... It's nothing more than a giant money making ponzi scheme. Here's a basic breakdown...

The "powers" use basic human psychology to determine the best ways to extract resources from the general populace. This is done through taxation, fines, the credit system, insurance, revenue generating legal arrangements like marriage and child support, aggressive advertising and mass manipulation via the media. In fact, if you really think about it, the entire legal system is set up to take money from you; that's why things like parking fines, speeding tickets and bail exist. They don't care how they get your money. All they know is currency is a game we are all forced to play and they intend to win by making us spend, risk, lose or forfeit as much as possible. To what end? I don't know; I'll leave that to the conspiracy theorists.

Only the top tier individuals in the organizations that control these things get to be "the powers that be". Examples; senators, congressmen, Parliament, CEOs, executives, top film producers, etc. These are people with 'god-like' social powers who can make you rich and famous or ruin your life at the snap of a finger. In most cases, they just ignore you. To them, the average person is nothing more than an ant scurrying around an ant hill. When was the last time you saw an ant? I bet you had to actively go looking for some and I'm pretty sure you couldn't tell any of them them apart since they're so small and insignificant to notice. That is how these people see us.

Everyone else is just a hired gun trying to raise their own status by association with these 'powers'. Examples; bragging that you work for Disney or that you know Steven Spielberg, nearly every movie star in existence and getting minimum jail time/legal punishment because your dad is a senator. If you're part of the "in crowd", life is easy and everything is practically handed to you. Everyone else has to fight for the scraps left on the floor.

I point to a money agenda because it makes the most sense with regard to what we are going through. Everyone knows the media tries to manipulate the population via advertising. Is it really that far fetched that the government and certain political groups are doing the same thing? You know they like power and you know the like to line their own pockets. At what point do you look at the big picture and say to yourself; "why am I doing this?" "What is the real reason for my actions?" Most people just get in line and take the illusion at face value without question.

We (L.S., incels, MGTOWs, MRAs,) are simply the first batch of the end product of this agenda. Simply put, men now lack the ability to effective compete for women. Everything in the past 50 years has been specifically designed to extract money from women and anyone who associates with them. Women make more money so they pay more taxes. Men have to work harder to 'afford' women, then their wives divorce them (alimony is taxable income BTW) or stick them with child support (a part of which goes to the state, not to the woman). We as men, are no longer educationally or financially impressive in comparison to women. Due to their hypergamous nature, women get pickier and drive the price of pussy through the stratosphere; allowing the "powers" to squeeze even more money from the system.

We have some highly intelligent minds on this forum. I'm hoping to open your eyes to a very real threat and maybe learn a thing or two from you guys as well.

I'd like to hear your input on the specific observations and explanations I've mentioned. There has to be a solution.

http://www.love-shy.com/lsbb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27289&start=0&p=538871&view=show#p538871
http://www.love-shy.com/lsbb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27289&start=0&p=538871&view=show#p538871

 

[A-№1]

Oh sorry about the acronyms. I have problems with 75-90% of acronyms on the interwebs.

LS: Love Shy
MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way
ROK: Return of Kings

Ah. Thanks for that. I'm already familiar with Love Shies, but I've always thought Return of Kings was a parody website about these guys, just a subtle enough one that a lot of them don't realize it.

Men Going Their Own Way is a new one, and I have to laugh at it because going your own way is pretty much the definition of what being a man is. Doubtless, though, they have their own rarefied personal definitions for those words which is different from what we mere normies understand. Like Humpty Dumpty, they believe their words mean what they choose them to mean - neither more nor less. I swear, sometimes it seems like you have to learn a whole new spergy vocabulary just to understand what these guys are saying before you can laugh at them.

Quotes from a love shy forum.

Admittedly I just skimmed that, but am I correct that it's some huge conspiracy theory that "the powers that be" are all in cahoots for the express purpose of keeping these guys from getting laid?

Welcome to the NHK.

 

[Rammspieler]

So I'm not super caught up on the Incel world but like, would @Rammspieler know anything about Fschmidt? Is he the final boss?

Super late response. I know.

Anyway, I wouldn't think of him as "The Final Boss". He's just one gang leader in what is basically a gang war between the different ideological camps on L-S.com. Because if there is one thing L-S.com was good at, it was at making people argue about what makes a man a virgin beyond his teens. He's more the leader of the pseudo-intellectualists.

 

[EI 903]

Super late response. I know.

Anyway, I wouldn't think of him as "The Final Boss". He's just one gang leader in what is basically a gang war between the different ideological camps on L-S.com. Because if there is one thing L-S.com was good at, it was at making people argue about what makes a man a virgin beyond his teens. He's more the leader of the pseudo-intellectualists.

What are the other main camps, if you don't mind the question? Is it a debate between a few differing opinions, or more of a spectrum of everyone having their own pet ideas?

 

[Rammspieler]

What are the other main camps, if you don't mind the question? Is it a debate between a few differing opinions, or more of a spectrum of everyone having their own pet ideas?

I would say that the different camps are based on commonalities that certain groups share between their pet ideas and the loudmouth with the most charisma somehow becomes the unofficial figurehead of said group.

There are the MRA/MGTOW guys which seems to be divided into it's own little sub-groups based on the individual branches of Manosphere philosophies and as a whole it does have a lot of crossover appeal with the other camps.

There is the Looksists Crew, which was started by Advanced. By the name alone, you know what this camp is all about. So it's funny how PUAHate used to come to troll L-S.com, when most of PUAHate was based on Looksism and they used to look up to Advanced as a hero.

There is the evopsych people. It never really had a figurehead, but I must admit that I was pretty much an evopsycher *hangs head in shame*

I guess you could say that fschmidt's Coalpha crew is his own take on evopsych, combined with some good ol'fashioned genuine hatred for modern society (read: liberals and the like). I think they are actually the smallest group, but fschmidt being the guy who is married, with kids, the people who follow him respect him because somehow it all worked for him.

 

[A-№1]

MRA, MGTOW, Manosphere, Looksists, Advanced, PUAHate, L-S.com, evopsych, fschmidt, Coalpha

Damn. It's worse than I thought.

I think I need a Peterson Field Guide to Modern Incels.

 

[melty]

Anytime I read people talking about the "dating market" and how women are "pricing themselves too high" I just roll my eyes. It smacks of ignorance of any kind of economic system and doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
The idea seems to be that women as a whole are "pricing" themselves higher and higher all the time. Which, ok, I don't know the sociology behind that but I could buy it. They are increasingly pricing men out of the market by being too expensive for a lot of men to pay.
But incels seem to think that instead of women realizing this and adjusting their "price" according (god I feel autistic just typing this out) they will just keep increasing their price forever until the majority of men can't afford it and then society collapses or something.
This would work if women didn't want relationships.. but they do! I know they like to talk about how the government is replacing men, but even if women had all the money they ever wanted, free housecare, free childcare, free sperm and free sex at their beck and call, most women would still want a partner! Obviously, there are plenty of examples of women (and men) who DO have all that and they still want a partner. Aside from the broken women these types seem to constantly run into (which do exist, just not as much as they think) it's simply human to want a partner to share your life with and nothing is going to change that.
Certain PUAs are propagating this ridiculous inflation myth, for obviously selfish purposes. Didn't Roosh recently write about how in the near future, most men would have to spend 2 hours minimum learning pick-up a day just to keep up? Oh, so they'll have to spend two hours on YOUR site, Roosh? It's really convenient you're trying to scare men into thinking that.
I'm not one of those people who thinks feminism is going to fix men's problems but there is so much toxic stuff coming out of these sites. These guys say they hate women, but I think a lot of them hate and are actively hurting men for their own purposes too. It makes sense, if you spend a lot of time hating and treating one group of people like shit how could you not be a toxic selfish person in other ways? Sort of like extreme SJWs like Vade, they claim to be on your side because they are using you.

And geez, the guy who posted "I've been thinking, what if we're not the problem" I've never seen a better example of confirmation bias. It's also pretty obvious that he hasn't cut google tracking off so he's increasingly being shown these sites because search has been personalized for him.. which is honestly an issue that really freaks me out but that's a whole other thing.

I am also wondering what other societies with more men than women are doing.. like Russia and China. Do they have these weird incel groups?
I know Japan is also having marriage trouble, but it seems more unhappiness with traditional roles and apathy than anything.
This seems to be a primarily American phenomenon, I know there are some in Canada and other countries but it doesn't seem to be as popular.
Interestingly, apparently there is a really big Mens' Rights group in India.
I tend to think it's just the ebb and flow of society toward one trend for another. I also think there is always going to be a group of these in any kind of society, no matter what it is, and the internet has just allowed them all to congregate together and create conspiracy theories about why they can't get laid. It's getting more popular as more people find out about it.
I feel bad for young guys who get sucked into this. It must be really easy to look around and see this worldview confirmed as girls their age want to date around and not commit to anyone. But that's just being young.. I think it's a good thing people aren't pressured to marry at 18 anymore.

 

[Positron]

There is the evopsych people. It never really had a figurehead, but I must admit that I was pretty much an evopsycher *hangs head in shame*

I guess you could say that fschmidt's Coalpha crew is his own take on evopsych, combined with some good ol'fashioned genuine hatred for modern society (read: liberals and the like). I think they are actually the smallest group, but fschmidt being the guy who is married, with kids, the people who follow him respect him because somehow it all worked for him.

FSchmidt is more "Historical Revisionism" than Evopsych, but Evopsych is basically the tenet that "incels" live by; it permeates the whole site.