Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[SpiralStars]

Chupp should've never given these people an inch, because boy are they flying right now.

Chupp is putting himself out of a job. If the judiciary lets the mob dole out justice what do we need them for? That's the thing these judges need to clue themselves into.

 

[MadPanda]

Stupid theory that is probably so farfetched that you would have to have marzgurl reach to get it, but what if chupp did something stupid like this on purpose? He apparently was shocked when he saw the defamation tweets and whatnot, and now he ruled like this to see how the defendants would respond on social media?

Is he suppose to do that? Hell no. Neither are you suppose to treat a TCPA as a trial either.

 

[Random Internet Person]

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Also, seriously, where is this "Vic invited 3 14 year olds into his hotel" story coming from??

Jenny worked con security once and put it into her affidavit. Or somebody did.

I do not know what you're trying to say, or how this pertains to my theoretical timeline.

I'm saying that while the timeline makes sense, ego will stop the master plan because SJWs won't let themselves take a back seat, and/or the "strong independent women" types probably won't stand for Monica and Jamie being pawns for what's basically a dick measuring contest.

Stupid theory that is probably so farfetched that you would have to have marzgurl reach to get it, but what if chupp did something stupid like this on purpose? He apparently was shocked when he saw the defamation tweets and whatnot, and now he ruled like this to see how the defendants would respond on social media?

Is he suppose to do that? Hell no. Neither are you suppose to treat a TCPA as a trial either.

The other theory that's probably not as insane is that he's tired of the games being played and his time being wasted and he's just doing whatever he can to just force this on appeals and wash his hands of this.

 

[Allanon]

The fertile imagination of that talking shovel Jennifer, or someone like that hanleia bitch.

Also, did anyone ever ask Ron what exactly they were going to take Vic to court for back then? "Your honor, people are being mean to my personal fiancee on social media, and this man is somehow responsible for it. I'd use the remote control on him, but he might resist or not go to the dentist for some horse teeth! It's not fair!"

They claimed at the time that Vic had done criminal acts, either to Monica or to other 'ladies' they knew, and that because Monica considered herself Vic's friend and only wanted him to get help, she refused to take him to court for it. She just wanted him to 'admit it and get help, to stop hurting people'. Vic called her bluff. Now she says they no longer consider Vic their friend and will never forgive him...but coincidentally forget the whole 'we're not going to court because we forgive him and care about him' stuff.

Of course, it screws them lots of ways, because they privately claimed that they were bringing criminal charges while they publicly insisted they had no intent to do so, and now we see there's nothing that could have been brought.

 

[Garm]

Or dom is going to make her daughter follow the family tradition of *CONSLUTS*

Isn't that called grooming?

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

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Also, seriously, where is this "Vic invited 3 14 year olds into his hotel" story coming from??

It comes from everyone’s favorite Looney Troon, and crazy bitch with illusions of grandeur:Jenny-Lynn Hunt or Kevin the Troontarian.

IIRC, her affidavit (Along with fellow conslut Whitney Falba and dipfuck John Prager) says Vic lured three minors into his hotel room where he was caught and rather than the parents of these girls pressing charges or raising hell about the potential molestation their kids could’ve been victim towards, let alone three fathers banning together to curbstomp on Vic’s ass for this, they took some compensation of passes or some shit and kept anonymous ever since then.

I don’t know what crack Lynn has been snorting, but just because her Daddy was shitty and her life in the system was shitty that doesn’t mean everyone’s father is a scumbag who’s cool with letting their young daughter get nearly molested~ Honestly, her story partially reeks of that Lucas Troon’s story who claimed Vic made a sexual comment towards him before transitioning and his father had the hotel they were (Allegedly) staying at offer them a half-off deal.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

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This garbage wouldn't even pass the first module of my current class.

Also, amazing has people on Twitter are using this to show they win.

 

[Mr. Sandwiches]

The fertile imagination of that talking shovel Jennifer, or someone like that hanleia bitch.

Also, did anyone ever ask Ron what exactly they were going to take Vic to court for back then? "Your honor, people are being mean to my personal fiancee on social media, and this man is somehow responsible for it. I'd use the remote control on him, but he might resist or not go to the dentist for some horse teeth! It's not fair!"

Someone keeps saying it's in Vic's deposition.

 

[Allanon]

Jenny worked con security once and put it into her affidavit. Or somebody did.


I'm saying that while the timeline makes sense, ego will stop the master plan because SJWs won't let themselves take a back seat, and/or the "strong independent women" types probably won't stand for Monica and Jamie being pawns for what's basically a dick measuring contest.

Ego doesn't stop them from hopping on Sabat's casting couch for roles and then shielding him from Huber's expose about it. It doesn't cause them to throw Sabat under the bus to improve their own position by sniping the don who dictates everything, even though they could smoothly get away with it and look extra strong. This isn't a SJW plot to undo Vic. This is a civil conspiracy to defame and tortiously interfere with his business and contracts until he dies. Monica's following Sabat's marching orders, this isn't just her own random thing she decided to do out of nothing.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

Chupp is putting himself out of a job. If the judiciary lets the mob dole out justice what do we need them for? That's the thing these judges need to clue themselves into.

If the false accusers get murdered by the accused, it just means keep doing the accusations. Men are inherently violent rapists if they kill their accuser(s) if we use SJW lawjik.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

Holy shit, I just listened to the Marzgurl song!

My bf can sing higher notes than that!

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

If people knew about stuff that supposedly happened that didn't directly involve them and they chose to be silent about it, I'd love to say that they're an accessory to the crime in question. If you knew an older man had taken teenagers to his hotel room without any other supervision and you just had your fist up your ass for weeks/months/years later and chose to say nothing as SECURITY, you also failed at your job to keep convention goers safe.

So not only are you allowing a crime to occur, you are completely incompetent at the job that you were supposed to be doing. How can anyone feel safe if their security personnel would just turn a blind eye until it was convenient to speak up? How would I know that I would be safe attending an event if security won't do their job?

 

[Garm]

Ego doesn't stop them from hopping on Sabat's casting couch for roles and then shielding him from Huber's expose about it. It doesn't cause them to throw Sabat under the bus to improve their own position by sniping the don who dictates everything, even though they could smoothly get away with it and look extra strong. This isn't a SJW plot to undo Vic. This is a civil conspiracy to defame and tortiously interfere with his business and contracts until he dies. Monica's following Sabat's marching orders, this isn't just her own random thing she decided to do out of nothing.

The only thing to do is to do enough damage that it is no longer economically viable.

 

[Commander]

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Hey Marchi, do you see that person you blocked? Those are the kinds of people you are supporting and your little posse is gatekeeping everyone else out, including most of us. Best of all they won't spend money towards cons and really will cause massive profit loses because they don't give a shit about anime.

I'm just here really hoping for a long lull period for like a month, but these people just don't know when to quit and settle down. Even if KickVic magically all went silent, ISWV would somehow find a way to set the house they reside in on fire. I signed up for a show that would slog so I'd only need to check once every other week. What I got was a circus show with clowns coming in at sanic speeds. I mean the content I pretty much get excited for now is any Vic showing because that man never ceases to amuse and entertain.

Rant off, it does seem I seriously have no idea why arguments are still going on here. We're just sitting here waiting for the results and KickVic is sperging out upset about something. I just don't get it. Did they want to lose so they could play the victim card more? Make Vic sound worse and still bash him?

 

[DanteFraco]

If they erase their record of it, it no longer exists.

Well I've got news for them.

She's going on DFE mode, ladies and gentlemen!

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Well i mean she getting ready to use the twitter block chain now,i mean won't make a difference since a lot of people got alt's that not following the youtubers/Ty beard for lerking and screen shooting and archiving.

 

[Random Internet Person]

This isn't a SJW plot to undo Vic. This is a civil conspiracy to defame and tortiously interfere with his business and contracts until he dies. Monica's following Sabat's marching orders, this isn't just her own random thing she decided to do out of nothing.

Then why does it feel like one? Vic was fired from his biggest roles, he was canceled from cons, he said in his deposition that he had to take antidepressants and things were so bad that he couldn't take any offers, and people here on this board considered the possibility of Vic killing himself. The conspiracy shit came to light later. I mean, Chuck's affidavit is probably the only smoking gun that suggests Sabat was running things like a frat house with his buddies, but I don't remember anything coming up in the legalese that suggested Chris saw Vic as an unfriendly rival at best and a threat to his scene at worst. Hell, I don't think the director part has been proven ironclad yet, and even then, Chris has his studio which he can use for other things and maybe he could even welcome Vic since it's not like they have to cross paths outside of having to compete for talent in dub work.

 

[Nontransferable]

Also, seriously, where is this "Vic invited 3 14 year olds into his hotel" story coming from??

This claim comes from the affidavit of Whitney Falba.




Lynn Hunt's affidavit of this same alleged event contradicts the above account. She said that Vic had been located in his hotel room with an underage girl as opposed to the three that Whitney had claimed.



Neither worked in security. Lynn was in charge of anime music videos and Whitney was an industry liaison, though she claimed that she was the live events chair. The guy who supposedly was the head of public safety for this convention, John Prager, did not mention this at all in his affidavit. There was a Risembool Rangers get together in a hotel room that evening and it seems likely that is the origin of the "Vic invited 3 14 year olds into his hotel" story.

The gifts that were presented to him sure do look a lot like the "FMA props" he allegedly used to lure those girls into his hotel room.

 

[Mr. Sandwiches]

This claim comes from the affidavit of Whitney Falba.

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Lynn Hunt's affidavit of this same alleged event contradicts her account. She said that Vic had been located in his hotel room with an underage girl as opposed to the three that Whitney had claimed.

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Neither worked in security. Lynn was in charge of anime music videos and Whitney was an industry liaison, though she claimed that she was the live events chair. The guy who supposedly was the head of public safety for this convention, John Prager, did not mention this at all in his affidavit. There was a Risembool Rangers get together in a hotel room that evening and it seems likely that is the origin of the "Vic invited 3 14 year olds into his hotel" story.

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Yeah but apparently Vic was asked about this in his deposition?

 

[Allanon]

Then why does it feel like one? Vic was fired from his biggest roles, he was canceled from cons, he said in his deposition that he had to take antidepressants and things were so bad that he couldn't take any offers, and people here on this board considered the possibility of Vic killing himself. The conspiracy shit came to light later. I mean, Chuck's affidavit is probably the only smoking gun that suggests Sabat was running things like a frat house with his buddies, but I don't remember anything coming up in the legalese that suggested Chris saw Vic as an unfriendly rival at best and a threat to his scene at worst. Hell, I don't think the director part has been proven ironclad yet, and even then, Chris has his studio which he can use for other things and maybe he could even welcome Vic since it's not like they have to cross paths outside of having to compete for talent in dub work.

Because the weak SJW thing is the cover they used for their conspiracy. They claim that Funimation only just learned of the rumors and investigated it, and RT silently implies that as well, they claim it was those nothingburger accusations they found 'credible' (but not really! You can't sue us because we didn't mean to say that!) and they keep trying to signal boost the crazy fujos, but that's not what's actually happening. This is easily proven when you go back to 2014 and see that the fujos kicked up a MUCH BIGGER fuss when Vic was hired on as Rin, and included a petition with all the insane allegations connected to it. Nothing happened, because no one cares.

Chris has been caught multiple times in DMs saying that Vic is actually Bad Man, Nick says that Sabat was actually involved in the three hour phone harassment of KC and can be heard on messages about it. If you read the emails of Monica that she did release during discovery and connect it to the events that happened/what other people including Vic have said, you can see the timeline matches up. Monica is the primary mover to get Vic thrown out of Funimation, KC, and RT - and likely other cons - and while we don't get to see what that accusation is, we know she came to them with an accusation that made all of them respond with immediate sympathy and knee-jerk reactions against Vic. It wasn't the jellybean story. It had to be a variation of the kiss story. Maybe it's more...lurid in the private email/phonecall versions.

Chris has publicly and privately spoken against Vic. And according to Huber, whom we should have zero reason to doubt on this matter, Chris has been defaming Vic in private for over a decade. According to Nick, who we should also trust, Chris has purposefully avoided casting Vic in roles whenever he gets the casting decisions, and there is evidence to indicate he didn't want Vic as Broly.

Also, I believe from investigation that there's circumstantial evidence Sabat has personally blocked Vic from going to AX since 2014.

As for the director thing, I think @Svetlana has actually confirmed that at some point. Chris is not on Vic's side. He is either Iago or Igor, one of the main men pulling the strings from behind. Monica isn't even Renfield. She's just the face.

 

[Laughing-Man]

It comes from everyone’s favorite Looney Troon, and crazy bitch with illusions of grandeur:Jenny-Lynn Hunt or Kevin the Troontarian.

IIRC, her affidavit (Along with fellow conslut Whitney Falba and dipfuck John Prager) says Vic lured three minors into his hotel room where he was caught and rather than the parents of these girls pressing charges or raising hell about the potential molestation their kids could’ve been victim towards, let alone three fathers banning together to curbstomp on Vic’s ass for this, they took some compensation of passes or some shit and kept anonymous ever since then.

I don’t know what crack Lynn has been snorting, but just because her Daddy was shitty and her life in the system was shitty that doesn’t mean everyone’s father is a scumbag who’s cool with letting their young daughter get nearly molested~ Honestly, her story partially reeks of that Lucas Troon’s story who claimed Vic made a sexual comment towards him before transitioning and his father had the hotel they were (Allegedly) staying at offer them a half-off deal.

Oh yea, quick update on her, I reached out to the convention center where they claimed that happened at. They checked their records and just got back to me like a week ago.

They were unable to find any records involving their security department and a Mr. or Mrs. Martinez on either of the claimed dates. Should this defamation from Mrs. Martinez become prominent beyond twitter they will issue a public statement on the matter. Kindest regards.