Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Lord Xenu]

Then why does it feel like one?

IMO the SJW's are/were just a convenient tool for a group of asshats that hate Vic, or want him gone, for different reasons that overlap. It's a conspiracy of convenience.

 

[Garm]

IMO the SJW's are/were just a convenient tool for a group of asshats that hate Vic, or want him gone, for different reasons that overlap. It's a conspiracy of convenience.

Basically what Nick did with the Funimation leaks. Nick threw a firecracker at the SJW's and they stampeded at Funimation.

They don't care who they are outraged at, as long as they can rage about something.

 

[Random Internet Person]

IMO the SJW's are/were just a convenient tool for a group of asshats that hate Vic, or want him gone, for different reasons that overlap. It's a conspiracy of convenience.

So it’s like the left and Islam, huh? Allying to fight a common enemy until their goals and methods cause them to turn against each other.

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

Oh yea, quick update on her, I reached out to the convention center where they claimed that happened at. They checked their records and just got back to me like a week ago.

They were unable to find any records involving their security department and a Mr. or Mrs. Martinez on either of the claimed dates. Should this defamation from Mrs. Martinez become prominent beyond twitter they will issue a public statement on the matter. Kindest regards.

Ahhh color me surprised, a mentally ill Looney Troon and Current Year tart lied about this? Shocking turn of events, lmao. Even with this in mind, the story still fell apart not only due to the mixing up of dates after Troony was notified that Vic was at another con when that shitty fanfic took place, but faggot Tatum wasn’t even Sebastian yet because the Dub didn’t come out until 2011.

Thanks man, you did some great work.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

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...so he wasn't already going to take him to court for apparently sexually assaulting countless people, including his fiancée?

 

[AnOminous]

So it’s like the left and Islam, huh? Allying to fight a common enemy until their goals and methods cause them to turn against each other.

The "alliance" is completely one sided. Islamists have never even pretended to be on the side of liberals, and openly want to murder many of their core constituencies like LGBT, while raping others, like women. Somehow, they are bound and determined to ignore this completely. If an ISIS member were dousing them in gasoline before setting them ablaze they'd be trying to suck the dude's dick. It's absolute madness.

 

[MadPanda]

The "alliance" is completely one sided. Islamists have never even pretended to be on the side of liberals, and openly want to murder many of their core constituencies like LGBT, while raping others, like women. Somehow, they are bound and determined to ignore this completely. If an ISIS member were dousing them in gasoline before setting them ablaze they'd be trying to suck the dude's dick. It's absolute madness.

Pretty much why I have more respect for ISIS and TERFs over the progressive alphabet group. I may not agree with either of their philosophy, but at least they do not use the mott and bailey strategy(pretty sure isis does not use the "Religion of peace" excuse and TERFs do not use the "just want equality" excuse).

 

[Dean Pentel]

...so he wasn't already going to take him to court for apparently sexually assaulting countless people, including his fiancée?

Damn dude, did you not read Ron's stern Twitter warnings about disparaging Monica? That also means asking her to back up her allegations with evidence and facts or report Vic's many, many crimes to the police is enough for Ron to have a "problem" with you. Silence is not consent, motherfucker (unless it's silence about Ron beating the shit out of women. That's ok)!

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Pretty much why I have more respect for ISIS and TERFs over the progressive alphabet group. I may not agree with either of their philosophy, but at least they do not use the mott and bailey strategy(pretty sure isis does not use the "Religion of peace" excuse and TERFs do not use the "just want equality" excuse).

I would hold off on giving TERFs any credit. They're simply part of the L in LGBT that were the OG exclusionists, who got pushed out of the movement for being snowflake autists.

They're the group that got pissed off that gay men got the same attention and rights as lesbians, and would criticize and berate bisexual women because they're not "real" lesbians. Essentially, they're the Aryan L wing of the "LGBT"

 

[Laughing-Man]

Ahhh color me surprised, a mentally ill Looney Troon and Current Year tart lied about this? Shocking turn of events, lmao. Even with this in mind, the story still fell apart not only due to the mixing up of dates after Troony was notified that Vic was at another con when that shitty fanfic took place, but faggot Tatum wasn’t even Sebastian yet because the Dub didn’t come out until 2011.

Thanks man, you did some great work.

Think nothing of it. If you only knew who stands with Vic in central Ohio. The records check was initiated after an offhand remark at an unrelated meeting. I barely lifted a finger.

 

[SpiralStars]

So it’s like the left and Islam, huh? Allying to fight a common enemy until their goals and methods cause them to turn against each other.

SJW's benefiting personally from their 'activism' or the 'activism' they support is the norm. They won't be at odds here. Monica and Marchi acting primarily in self-interest is something the SJW's can live with as long as they don't come in direct opposition.

As for the skeletons on Funi's closet will need something so salacious bigger SJW fish get interested with their own agenda. In comicsgate, the Blue Orca was all about Nazis and Mysoginy in comics. But Eric Esquivel, a raging SJW working on a DC title. was accused of being a predator, got a pass from her. Comicsgate pundits and figures jammed her about it and she had zero to say. Partly he was on her team, partly her comicgate attack narrative required saying Comicsgate was uniquely evil and she couldn't acknowledge anything else.

Long story short, SJW's or at least their higher ranks (for lack of a better term) are about power not principle.

 

[Allanon]

I would hold off on giving TERFs any credit. They're simply part of the L in LGBT that were the OG exclusionists, who got pushed out of the movement for being snowflake autists.

They're the group that got pissed off that gay men got the same attention and rights as lesbians, and would criticize and berate bisexual women because they're not "real" lesbians. Essentially, they're the Aryan L wing of the "LGBT"

TERFs are just lesbians (or I guess it could be any kind of 'feminist') who don't play along with trans stuff, IDK why they're considered some kind of extreme.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

TERFs are just lesbians (or I guess it could be any kind of 'feminist') who don't play along with trans stuff, IDK why they're considered some kind of extreme.

That's what they're most vocal about right now, because Trans is getting all the attention. These "feminists" were the same way when the movement was just "LG". They fucking hated gay men, because they were competing for privilege. Then they hated Bisexuals, then they hated the fact that the spectrum definitions grew more, now they hate trans people because that's all the news reports shit happening to.

They're considered some kind of "extreme" because they are. No rational person gives that much of a shit about what someone else is doing (that has no effect on them) without having some kind of fucking problem upstairs.

 

[TJ-Weber]

Think nothing of it. If you only knew who stands with Vic in central Ohio. The records check was initiated after an offhand remark at an unrelated meeting. I barely lifted a finger.

Thats good to hear, you forget how much support he has in the non-twitter convention groups. Do these people you know follow the case at all?

 

[SpiralStars]

I would hold off on giving TERFs any credit. They're simply part of the L in LGBT that were the OG exclusionists, who got pushed out of the movement for being snowflake autists.

They're the group that got pissed off that gay men got the same attention and rights as lesbians, and would criticize and berate bisexual women because they're not "real" lesbians. Essentially, they're the Aryan L wing of the "LGBT"

At some point the T's will fall off the top of the LGBT stack and the TERF's will take over with a vengeance. The T's position is part of a fad that will pass. I'll admit it may take decades. Then the fact women represent far more political power than T's in terms of actual votes will assert itself.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

At some point the T's will fall off the top of the LGBT stack and the TERF's will take over with a vengeance. The T's position is part of a fad that will pass. I'll admit it may take decades. Then the fact women represent far more political power than T's in terms of actual votes will assert itself.

I will point out that Drexel (from Nick's streams) makes a very solid point right now, in that trans is splitting the female vote. You have the one side who consider themselves "TERF" and the other side who are accepting of trans women as women. It's a very odd thing to see, and something that happens in Canadian politics all the time.

Moose Politics Spoiler
Basically, it's akin to having "too many aligned parties". So, in Canada for example, on a Federal level we have several "Left" wing parties, and (until recently) 2 right wing aligned parties.

So, if you're "Left-leaning", you have to choose between Liberal, NDP, Green parties. Where if you were "Right" wing last election, you only had the Conservative party to vote for.

For nearly 10 years (IIRC) this resulted in a variety of Right wing governments being voted in, and it only faultered because of a supremely popular candidate for the Liberals coming in at a time of in-fighting on the Conservative side.

Long post aside,

What Drexel's point was, if Men want things to go back to "normal", they should support trans people because that is the "wildcard" right now in terms of "privilege", and ultimately that "privilege" is what dictates society at this point in history, after centuries of doing shit we have to feel guilty over now.

 

[Allanon]

That's what they're most vocal about right now, because Trans is getting all the attention. These "feminists" were the same way when the movement was just "LG". They fucking hated gay men, because they were competing for privilege. Then they hated Bisexuals, then they hated the fact that the spectrum definitions grew more, now they hate trans people because that's all the news reports shit happening to.

They're considered some kind of "extreme" because they are. No rational person gives that much of a shit about what someone else is doing (that has no effect on them) without having some kind of fucking problem upstairs.

I'd say that's accurate for true TERFs, but mostly when I see the term thrown around it would be more accurate to say TEFs. They're not particularly more radical than other feminists, they just refuse to acknowledge MtF. Like any SJW slur, basically it's been muddied and diluted down to the point of being pretty useless.

 

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TERFs are just lesbians (or I guess it could be any kind of 'feminist') who don't play along with trans stuff, IDK why they're considered some kind of extreme.

They're not just lesbians. They're radicalised lesbians. Man haters, and proud of it. It's just that whereas a "normal" SJW Lesbian will accept the idea of a man chopping his dick off for penance for the crime of being born male, TERFs consider that to be a man trying to pretend to be a woman, which they consider to be the same as backface.

Now, the problem is, like all words, the second the SJWs got involved they lost all meaning. So now, a TERF is any woman who doesn't support the most extreme of Trans fetishdom. Don't think you should be taking 5 year olds out of school and injecting them with puberty blockers that will permanently sterilize them without their parents's knowledge or permission? Have the slightest bad thing to say about Yaniv? Don't believe in FaeGender? Fucking TERF.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Yeah but apparently Vic was asked about this in his deposition?

The only thing remotely similar I recall him being asked about was the twins. In which he admitted to inviting the twins back to his room and propositioning them for sex, which they decline. However they would have been in their early 20s at that point. Sounds like you're hearing someone conflate the bogus story about the three girls with Vic's testimony about the twins to get a false claim that he admitted to the three girls story in his deposition.

 

[P5Fever]

Good lord, somebody shoot me in the ears

Way to burn Cruel Angel Thesis even more

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