Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

Disney was able to make Vi asexual because she will never appear in anything of consequence, so it's not like they need to worry about her love life. For instance, Rae Sloane completely doesn't matter despite being railroaded into being one of the most important founders, if not the founder, of the First Order in early material.

Disney was supposed to weed out the terrible creators and stories but we instead ended up with a bunch of Karen Travisses injecting their pet real world causes into everything. At least Karen Traviss was obsessing over and forcing something actually part of Star Wars.

True enough. Especially in regards to Traviss (I honestly prefer exceptional in-universe spergary over anything nu-Lucasfilm is doing). As for Rae Sloane, true as well since that obnoxious bitch has faded from relevancy outside of a mention in the TLJ "Expansion" novel (although word is that she'll be in the Mandalorian...) but Vi Moradi is a bizarre case. A literally who from a Phasma book ended up having a completely different fate than Rae Sloane despite being even more insignificant, in that instead of fading into obscurity or cameos like Sloane, Lucasfilm for some irrational reason ended up making her the star at both of their SW theme parks... Like... seriously? What the fuck were they thinking?

 

[HeyYou]

True enough. Especially in regards to Traviss (I honestly prefer exceptional in-universe spergary over anything nu-Lucasfilm is doing). As for Rae Sloane, true as well since that obnoxious bitch has faded from relevancy outside of a mention in the TLJ "Expansion" novel (although word is that she'll be in the Mandalorian...) but Vi Moradi is a bizarre case. A literally who from a Phasma book ended up having a completely different fate than Rae Sloane despite being even more insignificant, in that instead of fading into obscurity or cameos like Sloane, Lucasfilm for some irrational reason ended up making her the star at both of their SW theme parks... Like... seriously? What the fuck were they thinking?
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Trying to make a theme park canon and "in-universe" instead of going balls to the wall with what people like, the fucking point of a theme park, is the ultimate what the fuck where they thinking.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

According to Clownfish, a insider leaked information to several YouTubers that there’s apparently 12 cuts of Episode IX.

Also, reshoots are still happening three months from release.

 

[XYZpdq]

I don't mind the idea of making some original character to help cement the theme park stuff, but for fucks sake don't make it a damn human face character, make it a wookie or some shit so you can stick any rando minimum wage sped in the suit, have him wave to the crowd, then go inside.

As for ROTS and ROTJ, I'm old enough that I have dim memories of seeing Jedi in a budget theater and good memories of seeing the trilogy on RCA selectavision videodiscs.
Jedi's decent with the obvious flaws. ROTS worked much better for me than the other two prequels. I don't know if it's that I got worn down and accepted the PT setting so seeing an okay story is a good enough thing, if the alleged Stoppard dialog tweaks are enough because I'm a soft touch for him, or what. Maybe after watching them set up dominos for the first two movies it was nice to finally see them get knocked over, maybe it was just because Duel of the Fates seriously brah Obi vs Annie was the hype shit.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Anyway, enough of beating this dead horse of a topic. Here's some more news: Reshoots are STILL ongoing and it looks like IX is turning out to be a massive dumpster fire.

The revelation of Rey being the true chosen one is supposedly a key plot point of IX.

I'm pretty sure few of us are surprised by this revelation as it's all but been expected for quite some time. The only real question will be how awful the end product will be.

Rey being the chosen one is dumb at the very least and -- if accurate -- shows just how much Disney wants to trash the OT at all costs. Our discussion yeserday about Kylo Ren's line about destroying the past certainly sounds like it would come into play if Disney really does go with Rey as the chosen one.

The Leia twist resolves the 'love-triangle' and raises the stakes for Luke somewhat, but it is clunky and gross, especially considering the siblings smooched earlier in the movie.

There have been real life instances of twins being separated at birth finding each other later on, becoming attracted to each other, and later discovering the truth. So it's not that implausible. Besides, Leia's kissing Luke was largely done to spite Han.

That said, I can understand those that argue the sibling relationship was unnecessary. About the only good thing it was good for was Vader discovering Luke had a sister and taunting him with the threat of turning her to the Dark Side to trigger Luke's protective nature and raw emotions/anger. I doubt that would have been as effective of a taunt with the emotional response it drew had Leia been anything less than Luke's sister.

I also read that "there is another" was written to imply to the audience that Luke was not protected by plot armor and could have very well have been killed by Vader.

And this is how it played out in that Vader easily overpowered him in ESB and could have killed him had he really wanted to. Worse, Luke despite completing most of his training in Yoda's eyes almost died again at the hands of the emperor who dialed his Force Lightning up to 11 in his attempt to kill Luke. Luke being defeated by stronger villains on account of incomplete training was plausible, realistic, and definitely showed a lack of plot armor.

NGL, it wouldn't surprise me if Episode IX shows Rey defeating any foe in her way just by blinking because her plot armor is just that thick. Just what we need: a Mary Sue who can defeat enemies with no formal training or experience simply because the writers want omnipotent female characters.

So... anyone remember the SW author of the Phasma book (among others) who's obsessed with menstruations and polyamory shit? Well it turns out that she and the current senior editor of Del Rey publishing have been celebrating on Twitter for some time due to that the most recent Galaxy's Edge book Black Spire confirmed that Vi Moradi (the awful and failing park's original donut steal character and STAR) is a "confirmed asexual".

How many people besides diehard SW spergs -- and those in the alphabet soup group to be more specific -- actually care about this? Take away the Tumbrlinas and I'm sure the answer will be "not many."

Trying to make a theme park canon and "in-universe" instead of going balls to the wall with what people like, the fucking point of a theme park, is the ultimate what the fuck where they thinking.

If I recall -- possibly from one of @GeneralFriendliness' informative posts -- any Disney employees that cosplay GE characters now have those characters considered canon and eligible for Wookiepedia entries. I definitely recall poking fun at the idea shortly after reading about it with a parody entry that could unironically end up being the template for these characters' entries.

What were they thinking? They weren't. That's been Disney's problem with the ST and all ancillary content it released since taking over the SW franchise.

 

[Creep3r]

If I recall -- possibly from one of @GeneralFriendliness' informative posts -- any Disney employees that cosplay GE characters now have those characters considered canon and eligible for Wookiepedia entries. I definitely recall poking fun at the idea shortly after reading about it with a parody entry that could unironically end up being the template for these characters' entries.

What were they thinking? They weren't. That's been Disney's problem with the ST and all ancillary content it released since taking over the SW franchise.

Yep. But that's not the only thing. Employees can also make up any lore they want about themselves and the SW universe as long as they don't claim to be related to the main characters and it doesn't contradict anything from the Disney Trilogy. So an employee can claim everyone on the planet is genderfluid or that Luke once dated this thing and it will be treated as legit, but they can't say they're Rey's third cousin twice removed or how IX will end, that's the only limit.

As far as I know, only 1 or 2 employees have had their own articles on Wookieepedia, one of them being one of the Porg-selling girls from the Reservation period.

Chirja

Chirja was a human female who lived in Black Spire Outpost on Batuu during the war between the First Order and the Resistance. She experience strange feelings around Savi's Workshop, hearing voices in her head. When visiting the scrapyard, Chirja came across what she thought appeared to be a...

starwars.fandom.com

Only reason more haven't had their articles added on Disneypedia Wookieepedia yet is because site activity is at an all time low and even the Galaxy's Edge articles they do have are incomplete or stubs except for the ones about the actual rides and main characters.

For future reference, articles about employees and park actors are added to the category linked below with the exception of Rey, Kylo Ren and Chewbacca's actors.

Batuu residents

This category is for all individuals who lived on the planet Batuu.

starwars.fandom.com

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Yep. But that's not the only thing. Employees can also make up any lore they want about themselves and the SW universe as long as they don't claim to be related to the main characters and it doesn't contradict anything from the Disney Trilogy. So an employee can claim everyone on the planet is genderfluid or that Luke once dated this thing and it will be treated as legit, but they can't say they're Rey's third cousin twice removed or how IX will end, that's the only limit.

As far as I know, only 1 or 2 employees have had their own articles on Wookieepedia, one of them being one of the Porg-selling girls from the Reservation period.

Chirja

Chirja was a human female who lived in Black Spire Outpost on Batuu during the war between the First Order and the Resistance. She experience strange feelings around Savi's Workshop, hearing voices in her head. When visiting the scrapyard, Chirja came across what she thought appeared to be a...

starwars.fandom.com

Only reason more haven't had their articles added on Disneypedia Wookieepedia yet is because site activity is at an all time low and even the Galaxy's Edge articles they do have are incomplete or stubs except for the ones about the actual rides and main characters.

For future reference, articles about employees and park actors are added to the category linked below with the exception of Rey, Kylo Ren and Chewbacca's actors.

Batuu residents

This category is for all individuals who lived on the planet Batuu.

starwars.fandom.com

How does Wookieepedia even know the editor is a park employee? What's stopping anyone from finding the name of a park employee and writing articles about "Batuu Man" and his misadventures involving booze and spice and nudity?

 

[Dom Cruise]

From what I read the sibling thing was an old plot point folded in from some sequel trilogy ideas GL planned in the 80s that he gave up on after getting tired of working on everything-- Luke's sister was a different character to be introduced in it and the Emperor would have been fought in those stories. Granted this was before Darth Vader and Luke's father were made into the same character.

I also read that "there is another" was written to imply to the audience that Luke was not protected by plot armor and could have very well have been killed by Vader.

I can't help but wonder what a sequel trilogy with the original cast circa perhaps the late 80s and early 90s where they fight the Emperor would have been like.

So... anyone remember the SW author of the Phasma book (among others) who's obsessed with menstruations and polyamory shit? Well it turns out that she and the current senior editor of Del Rey publishing have been celebrating on Twitter for some time due to that the most recent Galaxy's Edge book Black Spire confirmed that Vi Moradi (the awful and failing park's original donut steal character and STAR) is a "confirmed asexual".
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The book is about asexual awareness to them? I'm pretty sure you are a slug, miss. A hutt to be precise.

Also of note is that the woman currently running the Star Wars social media accounts is a fucking crazy as fuck lolcow and uber feminist who thinks the evil cis male nazis are out to get her and destroy SW for poor and defenseless little non-binary girls of color everywhere and that Kathleen Kennedy is just as bad for not hiring a woman of color to direct SW. She's gone batshit insane and is even attacking her own superiors. As a reminder, she only got this gig because Kennedy wanted more woke women at Lucasfilm. I hope Ms. Kennedy is not regretting her decisions...

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Bravo Kennedy. Someone actually made a whole video about this crazy bitch and her spergouts.

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In some lighter news, Mark Hamill took another jab at Galaxy's Edge, which is still suffering from less than impressive attendance, especially in Florida.

Gross, this is what Star Wars and all of pop culture is boiling down to folks, just self wankery for mentally broken weirdos to pat themselves on the back.

Homosexuality and all that is a little more open for debate, but I definitely draw the line at "asexuality", sexual desire is one of the most basic human needs and the orgasm is literally the most pleasurable physical sensation possible, anyone who can't appreciate or understand that is defective in the head, there's no way around that, it's not healthy or natural, treating that as just another sexual identity is the peak of absurdity.

Call me a bigot if you want, I don't care (not saying anyone here will, just referring to SJWs)

But all that aside it's just so fucking boring to imagine only wanting media that reflects who you are, I've always appreciated being challenged by stuff, one of the reasons I went so gaga for Japanese culture was precisely because it was something foreign and unfamiliar to me.

And this is how it played out in that Vader easily overpowered him in ESB and could have killed him had he really wanted to. Worse, Luke despite completing most of his training in Yoda's eyes almost died again at the hands of the emperor who dialed his Force Lightning up to 11 in his attempt to kill Luke. Luke being defeated by stronger villains on account of incomplete training was plausible, realistic, and definitely showed a lack of plot armor.

NGL, it wouldn't surprise me if Episode IX shows Rey defeating any foe in her way just by blinking because her plot armor is just that thick. Just what we need: a Mary Sue who can defeat enemies with no formal training or experience simply because the writers want omnipotent female characters.


How many people besides diehard SW spergs -- and those in the alphabet soup group to be more specific -- actually care about this? Take away the Tumbrlinas and I'm sure the answer will be "not many."

It reminds me of Indiana Jones, despite being a badass and cool character, he's always getting his ass kicked and comes out ahead by the skin of his teeth, watching a character struggle to succeed is far more exciting and compelling than just having them easily win at any challenge.

He's also sometimes a dork, like when the college girl is lusting after him, he's dumbstruck and doesn't know how to react or when he shows real vulnerability with Marion on the ship.

The point is a good character needs layers and that's what SJW characters always lack, it's always just surface level shit with them, usually boiling down to literally just their race, gender and/or sexual identity, it's about what they "represent", they're not even supposed to feel like real people.

There was nothing wrong with having a female protagonist for the sequel trilogy, there's nothing with female protagonists in general, but they till have to be actual characters.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

I've never understood the whole "I can only like characters who look like me" mentality. I mean, black people are some of the biggest anime fans out there, and apart from a few dark-skinned girls who look like palette-swapped versions of the regular cast, there are very few actual African-Americans in anime. I myself could totally watch a historical series set in ancient China starring Chinese actors and be riveted by it, particularly if the setting is different and contains new opportunities for drama. I'll probably never fight in a war or be part of an emperor's harem, but I could totally be fascinated by a story that contained these elements, - I don't need everything to reflect my own experience.

I think the issue with SJWs is that a lot of them are ashamed to be who they are. (Or they believe they are being oppressed because of who they are.) Seeing characters on the screen who share their appearances, fetishes and beliefs validates the SJW's life choices. ("Hey! there's a character on this TV show who's a dumpy fat slob like me! My parents are totally wrong when they say I'm lazy and have let myself go! I don't have to change anything about myself at all because I'm being represented as a main character in a TV show!")

Switching gears, I think the thing that angers me the most about Galaxy's Edge is the fact that it crushes the dreams of every Star Wars fan who thought they'd be able to walk through a life-sized environment of Tattooine or the Death Star or Cloud City, replete with costumed characters who make them feel like they're immersed in the universe. Who, as a ten year old kid, wouldn't have thought that was the coolest thing ever? What kid wouldn't have wanted to ride in a speeder bike simulator, or explored a Jawa scavenging vehicle? Instead, everyone's forced to wander around in a strip mall that kind of looks like Tattooine if you squint hard, drink green soymilk and browse stores for overpriced merchandise based on the characters that no one likes. That's like being a kid and having your parents promise to take you to see Santa, only he's in one of those nearly dead malls in the seedier side of town where you have to wait for Ol' Saint Nick to finish huffing his crack pipe before he can set you down on his urine-soaked lap. And then you're squirming there, hoping that the bump that you're sitting on is his crack pipe, not a huge boner. Yes, technically, your parents DID take you to "see Santa", but the experience didn't exactly meet your expectations, now did it?

 

[RumblyTumbly]

That's like being a kid and having your parents promise to take you to see Santa, only he's in one of those nearly dead malls in the seedier side of town where you have to wait for Ol' Saint Nick to finish huffing his crack pipe before he can set you down on his urine-soaked lap. And then you're squirming there, hoping that the bump that you're sitting on is his crack pipe, not a huge boner. Yes, technically, your parents DID take you to "see Santa", but the experience didn't exactly meet your expectations, now did it?

Personal experience?

 

[Antipathy]

Personal experience?

I was the shittiest Mall Santa that ever existed.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Rian apparently isn’t sure if and when he’ll make his trilogy.

Rian Johnson Unsure When He’ll Start New ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy, Lucasfilm ‘Figuring Out Schedule’

Johnson says he may be able to shoot another original feature after "Knives Out" because his "Star Wars" timelines remains up in the air.

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[RumblyTumbly]

I can really help Disney out here.

Anything you have planned to make for Star Wars in the future. Literally all of it...just stop. Stop making it now. Throw it in the garbage, take a break for a few years, and start the hell over.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Rian apparently isn’t sure if and when he’ll make his trilogy.

Rian Johnson Unsure When He’ll Start New ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy, Lucasfilm ‘Figuring Out Schedule’

Johnson says he may be able to shoot another original feature after "Knives Out" because his "Star Wars" timelines remains up in the air.

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Hopefully fucking never. How he hasn't been burned in effigy yet is beyond me.

 

[Creep3r]

How does Wookieepedia even know the editor is a park employee? What's stopping anyone from finding the name of a park employee and writing articles about "Batuu Man" and his misadventures involving booze and spice and nudity?

Literally nothing. You can get away with it as long as you don't make your article come off as obvious trolling. For example, you can write an article about Jobi the Town Drunk who hangs out at Oga's cantina every week and yells obscenities at passing Gungans, but you can't write an article about Jobi the nudist furry who likes to take a shit in the middle of town and pukes rainbows. I should go into more detail about this... Wookieepedia's GE project is run mostly by two users who are actually park employees themselves but they're activity has declined a little bit since both parks officially opened. Despite this, they're aided by a third user who I've spoken about in length before in this thread... Lewisr. Lewisr, based on behavior, posts, links and activity I've posted before, is quite possibly a Lucasfilm employee himself and seems to have ties to Pablo Hidalgo. Lewisr never sleeps and only takes breaks from editing 3 to 4 hours a day (usually less) which I assume he uses either for sleep, fapping or that he's actually a Lucasfilm account run by multiple interns who switch places every day. Lewisr watches all articles like an autistic hawk (along with a HUGE Disneyfag called DarthRuiz30 who isn't as active and is just an obsessive new fan) so any little edit you make will not go unnoticed. So you have to be careful with what kind of bullshit you add if you plan to do it. Otherwise DarthRuiz or Lewisr will remove them. So when adding bullshit, be subtle and also add a believable or faked reference.

I've never understood the whole "I can only like characters who look like me" mentality. I mean, black people are some of the biggest anime fans out there, and apart from a few dark-skinned girls who look like palette-swapped versions of the regular cast, there are very few actual African-Americans in anime. I myself could totally watch a historical series set in ancient China starring Chinese actors and be riveted by it, particularly if the setting is different and contains new opportunities for drama. I'll probably never fight in a war or be part of an emperor's harem, but I could totally be fascinated by a story that contained these elements, - I don't need everything to reflect my own experience.

I think the issue with SJWs is that a lot of them are ashamed to be who they are. (Or they believe they are being oppressed because of who they are.) Seeing characters on the screen who share their appearances, fetishes and beliefs validates the SJW's life choices. ("Hey! there's a character on this TV show who's a dumpy fat slob like me! My parents are totally wrong when they say I'm lazy and have let myself go! I don't have to change anything about myself at all because I'm being represented as a main character in a TV show!")

I think you just hit the nail on the head. At the end of the day, these unique snowflake and alphabet soup types who won't stop whining about being oppressed or not being represented enough are actually being oppressed mostly by themselves. They can't rid of that nagging little voice in the back of their head constantly bullying them for their own insecurities, so they have to beg or shout at the world for its approval by any means necessary.

I can't help but wonder what a sequel trilogy with the original cast circa perhaps the late 80s and early 90s where they fight the Emperor would have been like.



Gross, this is what Star Wars and all of pop culture is boiling down to folks, just self wankery for mentally broken weirdos to pat themselves on the back.

Homosexuality and all that is a little more open for debate, but I definitely draw the line at "asexuality", sexual desire is one of the most basic human needs and the orgasm is literally the most pleasurable physical sensation possible, anyone who can't appreciate or understand that is defective in the head, there's no way around that, it's not healthy or natural, treating that as just another sexual identity is the peak of absurdity.

Call me a bigot if you want, I don't care (not saying anyone here will, just referring to SJWs)

But all that aside it's just so fucking boring to imagine only wanting media that reflects who you are, I've always appreciated being challenged by stuff, one of the reasons I went so gaga for Japanese culture was precisely because it was something foreign and unfamiliar to me.



It reminds me of Indiana Jones, despite being a badass and cool character, he's always getting his ass kicked and comes out ahead by the skin of his teeth, watching a character struggle to succeed is far more exciting and compelling than just having them easily win at any challenge.

He's also sometimes a dork, like when the college girl is lusting after him, he's dumbstruck and doesn't know how to react or when he shows real vulnerability with Marion on the ship.

The point is a good character needs layers and that's what SJW characters always lack, it's always just surface level shit with them, usually boiling down to literally just their race, gender and/or sexual identity, it's about what they "represent", they're not even supposed to feel like real people.

There was nothing wrong with having a female protagonist for the sequel trilogy, there's nothing with female protagonists in general, but they till have to be actual characters.

Asexual shit as defined by the tumblr generation no longer means quitting or not caring about sex or romance. Its a shitty "fancy" label they use as a substitute and as some kind of superior version for their shitty omnisexual/pansexual labels. In other words, they claimed they're open to all sexual partners in that they don't care about their identity, biology or appearance...

 

[Marissa Moira]

Hopefully fucking never. How he hasn't been burned in effigy yet is beyond me.

Give it time, he hasn't had his latest movie fully blow up in his face yet.

 

[Xerxes IX]

Asexual shit as defined by the tumblr generation no longer means quitting or not caring about sex or romance. Its a shitty "fancy" label they use as a substitute and as some kind of superior version for their shitty omnisexual/pansexual labels. In other words, they claimed they're open to all sexual partners in that they don't care about their identity, biology or appearance...

Even worse. People are defeating the whole point of the label by saying asexual people still have sex, it's just for reasons aside from sexual attraction.

And there's the whole ace inclusionist vs exclusionist debate on tumblr and twitter, which gets people incredibly worked up on both sides because they see the other side as detracting from their own Very Special Status. The whole point is whether or not being asexual is inherently LGBT because you can be attracted to someone of the opposite gender but not want to fuck them. So funnily enough "ace exclusionists" would probably be mad about this…if any of them do care about nu wars anyway.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Give it time, he hasn't had his latest movie fully blow up in his face yet.

I think Disney will watch this one closely and see if TLJ has any affect on this involved with it. I remember Boyaga was in the new Pacific Rim movie and it bombed, though Driver seems the be the only one fine with a career outside of the sequels.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Okay, I love The Emperor as a character. He is so unapologetically evil and enjoys being evil so much that he is just a delight to watch. Its one of the reasons I like characters like Skeletor, The Joker, Hans Gruber, Terrence Stamp's General Zod, or Ratigan from Great Mouse Detective. You can have three dimensional villains with more intricate motivations, but if you are just going to go pure evil, let them freaking own it and have fun with it.

With The Emperor, he is arguably the glue that holds Return of the Jedi together. People can list flaws with that film, but I love it and will gladly watch it every day because the Luke/Vader/Emperor stuff is so damn good, and represents some of the finest material in Star Wars to date. In the prequels, he was the biggest saving grace of a trilogy that was largely a misfire. I can sit here all day and talk about the faults of the prequels, but even with the crappy writing and nonsense in the plot, The Emperor shines through as being so much fun, especially in Revenge of the Sith. But even in the other two films, it is fun to watch him play everyone for saps when we already know who he is and what he's doing. Him making chumps out of Padme, Jar Jar, and even all the Jedi is just hilarious.

My love of the character aside, it makes absolutely no sense that he is in Episode IX. None at all.

First of all, he died in Return of the Jedi. This was not ambiguous or left up to interpretation. The dude fell down a giant hole, an explosion happened, and even if by some miracle of all the gods in existence he survived that, the 2nd Death Star exploded. He is freaking dead and that was clearly the intention. I thought the way they brought Darth Maul back in the Clone Wars cartoon show was stupid, inane, and fanfic-y as all get up (Maul himself was great, but the explanation for his survival is ludicrous), but this takes that to a whole other level. Its like they want us to remember the character, but forget how he was beat...you know, that moment that was the emotional climax of the original trilogy and one of my favorite moments in all of Star Wars? Yeah, I'm supposed to forget that apparently.

Now what if they go the route that the comic Dark Empire did by having Palpatine involved in a weird cloning and soul swapping experiment? Entirely possible, but to be honest, that I was always kind of ho-hum on Dark Empire anyway because I felt it undid the ending of Return of the Jedi. It makes sense that the character would be seeking immortality, but that's why I kind of preferred the idea of finding a bunch of stuff he was working (like Mount Tantiss in the Thrawn Trilogy) rather than just straight up bringing him back.

But even if Dark Empire is the source of inspiration for this, Palpatine has not been a factor in the first two films of this trilogy at all. He was mentioned once by Luke who was giving an abridged history of the Jedi. In OT and PT, he was the puppetmaster pulling all the strings and making things happen to benefit him. But here, he hasn't been involved in anything, but now that everyone hated the Last Jedi, they are shoehorning him in just to win back the jaded fans, and by doing so, they are betraying their own story and the stories that came before it.

This partly is why I wasn't a fan of them just redoing the Empire again for this new trilogy. Yeah its called "The First Order" but lets be real, it is the Empire. They could have pulled anything from the EU like the Yuzzhan Vong, The Black Sun, the Ssi-ruck, or literally anything else. Doing what they did just opens it up for this kind of rehashing and backtracking to take place.

 

[Tookie]

Homosexuality and all that is a little more open for debate, but I definitely draw the line at "asexuality", sexual desire is one of the most basic human needs and the orgasm is literally the most pleasurable physical sensation possible, anyone who can't appreciate or understand that is defective in the head, there's no way around that, it's not healthy or natural, treating that as just another sexual identity is the peak of absurdity.

Most of them turn out to have tumors pressing on their pituitary glands or other serious hormonal problems.