Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

There are years between the three films. Aside from the force pull which was probably just instinct, Luke had plenty of time to learn and build things. In ANH his piloting skills are brought up constantly in dialogue to make it easier to swallow.

>Muh space wizards.

Eh Adam will never read this rebuttal on a Floridian shitposting forum... but I already wrote it so
I can't even remember him using force choke except for a vague recollection that he might have done it in Return of the Jedi at Jabba's palace. That's a testament to how understated it was compared to Rey's shit. Even outside of the fact that force choke is an absurdly simple force power, he does it in the last movie.
 
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Attack of the Clones = 1/5: A sloppy as fuck nightmare of a movie that bounces between plots in an unfocused mess, all while having one of the shittiest romance on film. Easily the worst of the PT, even if ideas in it could be saved. Also has you not give a shit about stakes, as your armies don't die, they multiply.

Lotta AotC slander taking place in this thread as of late. Its time to set the record straight.

AotC's biggest flaw is that it was ahead of its time. TPM used real sets and miniatures in addition to cgi and looks pretty good outside anything involving the droid and Gungan armies. But AotC was all cgi before fx studios figured out how to animate cg characters properly, so you end up with a lot of super janky shots in the film (Anakin riding the bull, C3PO at the droid factory, Christopher Lee's mannequin head).

With that out of the way:

The story of AotC is exactly what they needed to bridge TPM and RotS. It establishes Anakin as a character. It establishes his relationship with Senator Palpatine. It gives meaning and purpose to the events of TPM by establishing the Trade Federation as a galactic threat. And it explains how a Republic with no armed forces outside the Jedi became the Empire.

AotC is also thematically consistent with the other films of the trilogy. It was established from the very first teaser that we're watching a tragedy unfold. There are no happy endings, and each victory is, at best, bittersweet.

Most importantly, AotC has some of the best set pieces in the trilogy. I've talked about how much I loved the Jango vs. Obi-Wan fight repeatedly, mainly because its not so much a fight about who will win, but a fight where a normal dude is using every trick he has to not get instantly beheaded by a fucking jedi. The entire Zam Wesell sequence is great (so many great shots of Courescant during the chase), as is the arena fight until the Jedi show up and it becomes blaster porn.

I also love how George pays homage to film noir all throughout the film (Obi-Wan's plot is basically one long film noir homage), because that blend of genres is classic Star Wars and something completely lacking from the soulless sequel trilogy.


Its funny, every complaint people have about the sequel trilogy is something AotC does right, yet AotC is still constantly shit on because of a few wooden performances, cheesy lines and janky cgi.
 
I also love how George pays homage to film noir all throughout the film (Obi-Wan's plot is basically one long film noir homage), because that blend of genres is classic Star Wars and something completely lacking from the soulless sequel trilogy.
It's a shame that RLM missed the point completely when they mocked that 50s diner scene.

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Lotta AotC slander taking place in this thread as of late. Its time to set the record straight.

AotC's biggest flaw is that it was ahead of its time. TPM used real sets and miniatures in addition to cgi and looks pretty good outside anything involving the droid and Gungan armies. But AotC was all cgi before fx studios figured out how to animate cg characters properly, so you end up with a lot of super janky shots in the film (Anakin riding the bull, C3PO at the droid factory, Christopher Lee's mannequin head).

With that out of the way:

The story of AotC is exactly what they needed to bridge TPM and RotS. It establishes Anakin as a character. It establishes his relationship with Senator Palpatine. It gives meaning and purpose to the events of TPM by establishing the Trade Federation as a galactic threat. And it explains how a Republic with no armed forces outside the Jedi became the Empire.

AotC is also thematically consistent with the other films of the trilogy. It was established from the very first teaser that we're watching a tragedy unfold. There are no happy endings, and each victory is, at best, bittersweet.

Most importantly, AotC has some of the best set pieces in the trilogy. I've talked about how much I loved the Jango vs. Obi-Wan fight repeatedly, mainly because its not so much a fight about who will win, but a fight where a normal dude is using every trick he has to not get instantly beheaded by a fucking jedi. The entire Zam Wesell sequence is great (so many great shots of Courescant during the chase), as is the arena fight until the Jedi show up and it becomes blaster porn.

I also love how George pays homage to film noir all throughout the film (Obi-Wan's plot is basically one long film noir homage), because that blend of genres is classic Star Wars and something completely lacking from the soulless sequel trilogy.


Its funny, every complaint people have about the sequel trilogy is something AotC does right, yet AotC is still constantly shit on because of a few wooden performances, cheesy lines and janky cgi.
I can't help but to be amazed at how much I appreciate AOTC now in light of TLJ.

For all its flaws, it kickstarted a new conflict that was entirely unique from the Galactic Civil War, which in turn led to tons of books, comics, and video games, as well as two kickass TV shows. Even if the movie itself was flawed, it had a positive influence on the series as a whole.

TLJ just tripled down on Galactic Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo, and badly shit the bed with expanding the series.
 
One thing about the romance in AOTC I'll give over similarly cringey romance stories like Twilight.

Padme and Anakin are a horrible and toxic couple that feed into each others worse tendencies, and let their feelings for each other get in the way of their better judgment....

And this romance brought about the fall of the Republic and the Jedi.

When you make stupid choices, bad things happen. Lesson learned, lol.

Much better than the Vampire and Bella acting awful and getting everything they want out of it.
 
One thing about the romance in AOTC I'll give over similarly cringey romance stories like Twilight.

Padme and Anakin are a horrible and toxic couple that feed into each others worse tendencies, and let their feelings for each other get in the way of their better judgment....

And this romance brought about the fall of the Republic and the Jedi.

When you make stupid choices, bad things happen. Lesson learned, lol.

Much better than the Vampire and Bella acting awful and getting everything they want out of it.
Better than the Finn and Rose "romance" too, since at least there was an attempt to show them falling in love.

Finn and Rose were treated as very distant acquaintances at best until she kissed him, after she fucked the Resistance over.

I can't believe how much worse TLJ was than AOTC. At worst, AOTC bored me, while TLJ felt like it was trying to piss me off.
 
Lotta AotC slander taking place in this thread as of late. Its time to set the record straight.

AotC's biggest flaw is that it was ahead of its time. TPM used real sets and miniatures in addition to cgi and looks pretty good outside anything involving the droid and Gungan armies. But AotC was all cgi before fx studios figured out how to animate cg characters properly, so you end up with a lot of super janky shots in the film (Anakin riding the bull, C3PO at the droid factory, Christopher Lee's mannequin head).

With that out of the way:

The story of AotC is exactly what they needed to bridge TPM and RotS. It establishes Anakin as a character. It establishes his relationship with Senator Palpatine. It gives meaning and purpose to the events of TPM by establishing the Trade Federation as a galactic threat. And it explains how a Republic with no armed forces outside the Jedi became the Empire.

AotC is also thematically consistent with the other films of the trilogy. It was established from the very first teaser that we're watching a tragedy unfold. There are no happy endings, and each victory is, at best, bittersweet.

Most importantly, AotC has some of the best set pieces in the trilogy. I've talked about how much I loved the Jango vs. Obi-Wan fight repeatedly, mainly because its not so much a fight about who will win, but a fight where a normal dude is using every trick he has to not get instantly beheaded by a fucking jedi. The entire Zam Wesell sequence is great (so many great shots of Courescant during the chase), as is the arena fight until the Jedi show up and it becomes blaster porn.

I also love how George pays homage to film noir all throughout the film (Obi-Wan's plot is basically one long film noir homage), because that blend of genres is classic Star Wars and something completely lacking from the soulless sequel trilogy.


Its funny, every complaint people have about the sequel trilogy is something AotC does right, yet AotC is still constantly shit on because of a few wooden performances, cheesy lines and janky cgi.

Counter point, AotC had such awful, cringy dialogue no acting could have saved it. Saying people shit on AotC for wooden acting and cheesy dialogue is like saying Mary Lincoln had an unfavorable view of Our American Cousin because of one incident during the play.

There were pacing issues. The movie moved both too fast and too slow because Lucas sucked ass at the dialogue, and hopped around too fucking much. The Zam sequence/Courescant chase just felt really out of place. I just remember really wanting the chase to end already when watching.

I think the Jango sequences, especially after the phantom menance, felt just extremely like a Memberberries fandom pandering to the point it ruined it for me.

That said, I'll agree the 30,000 foot view of the plot is pretty solid, and sets up at lot of good ancillary material. Which I think, going back to the Jango memberberries, was part of the issue with the film's execution. It didn't feel like a Star Wars movie, it felt like a 2 hour commercial/TV movie for The Clone Wars comics, games, and TV show.

(insert joke about OT's merchanizing profits here)
 
That goes back to what I said about the PT compared to the ST.

AT LEAST Lucas mapped out his shit and had an idea of where he was going when he wrote the films. I could pick them apart to death and they've got holes big enough to drive tractors through, but at least he had a plan.

The sequels....yeah they clearly didn't have anything mapped out, or maybe JJ gave them a loose framework and Rian burned it to the ground with TLJ and now JJ is trying to get things back on track to where he wanted originally. I don't know.

But at the very least, the prequels oddly feel like they belong together as one story, where as the ST is going to be weird as fuck to watch back to back as one story.
 
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Yeah Luke's T-16 has always been the explanation, him and his dipshit pals were a bunch of street racing hicks taking potshots at wildlife in their ricers.
Incom reskinning their military grade flighter trainer into a civilian and/or light security craft have been a part of the EU. Partly to recoup costs as they lost the military contracts to the GE and make do with the civilian market. But more importantly help the Rebellion trained their pilots in at least basic flying skills.

Plus the T-16 and T-65 having the same control setup and similar flight characteristics does mirror real life military trainers and combat aircraft.
 
Fucking hell, isn't that also the plot of Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy? The Sith troopers also look like terrible rip-offs of the Imperial Knights from the Legacy comics, and the idea that there are actually a bunch of Sith apprentices (never even hinted at before now, of course!) running around in defiance of the Rule of Two reminds me of Darth Krayt's empire.
At least with Krayt he was doing it to prove that he was some kind of "Great Uniter" figure who could change the Sith. With Disney however, its clear that the whole sith trooper thing was just corporate wankery to see what would sell most toys. I mean look at these lobsters. Ever since their debut its been non-stop merch announcements, ranging from funko pops, blankets, clothes, lego sets, collector's cups, trading cards, backpacks and even fucking alarm clocks of lobster troopers. Now its lobster trooper-brand lightsabers. Meanwhile the actual Disney shits like Rey hardly get anything by comparison outside the usual shit. Seems like Disney has little faith in their OCs selling well so they have to resort to milking that stormtrooper money despite alienating trooper buyers after RO.
I can't help but to be amazed at how much I appreciate AOTC now in light of TLJ.

For all its flaws, it kickstarted a new conflict that was entirely unique from the Galactic Civil War, which in turn led to tons of books, comics, and video games, as well as two kickass TV shows. Even if the movie itself was flawed, it had a positive influence on the series as a whole.

TLJ just tripled down on Galactic Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo, and badly shit the bed with expanding the series.
Its one of the things that annoys me most about TFA. There's not a single original thing or character that feels original or could stand on their own. Even shit like AotC had that going for it which ended up resulting in some amazing spinoff material. The only original thing TFA had going for it was Finn (a rogue and naive stormtrooper who has no idea how the world works and thus could serve as a vehicle for the audience) and that ended up being tremendously wasted potential with an even more pathetic result. Other than that you have Luke 2.0 aka Rey, R2-D2 2.0 aka BB-8, Han Solo 2.0 aka Poe, Death Star 2.0 aka Starkiller, Tatooine 2.0 aka Jakku, Yoda 2.0 aka Yellow Yoda, etc etc. The movie was so dispassionate and corporate approved you could almost hear the sound of Disney executives patting themselves on the back. Then comes TLJ and just completely fucks their shit up.

Well enough of this ranting bullshit, time for more info and spoilers.

1: Here's a new lobster trooper posted with one of the new Tie-Fighter designs (there are two, one with nacho wings and one with crap on the cockpit).
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The nacho-winged one is called the TIE Dagger...

2: The new Rose Tico comic got leaked and it reveals her shitty backstory where we find out that the First Order genocided her homeworld. Turns out the First Order has been using Star Destroyers to bomb planets and mine the crap out of them for building materials. Meanwhile nu-Lucafilm's story group wants us to believe the New Republic never did anything to help because they didn't have enough evidence or reason to challenge the FO. Wow... Restoring the Republic was such a great idea, huh Leia?
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3: Despite old aliens like Mon Calamaris, Twi'leks and Sullustans seemingly getting replaced with those nu Jake Lunt Davies aliens (outside of RO), the Galaxy's Edge park claims Ackbar's people and planet are just fine and haven't been genocided by the Empire or FO... So I guess Disney just wants them replaced with no real reasoning behind it.
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4: The elderly crazy frog from the costume leaks back in March is supposedly called Babu Frik...
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I mentioned this before, but his role is apparently to go inside C-3PO and reprogram him into learning Sithese...

5: Treadspeeders got confirmed again via a shitty new toy.
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Apparently its whole existence revolves around crashing so the tread is even more useless.

6: R2-D2 may actually be a very unimportant character in this film (even more so than Rose) supposedly so as to not steal attention from D-O and BB-8.

7: This may be the true poster they're going with for IX.
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Only difference between this and the first leaked poster is the added text and they replaced the hideous slug boy with Rose Tico.

I have more to tell but quite frankly I'd rather wait for more posts so the page isn't just one big word salad from me.
 
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On the merchandising blitz it seems LF intentionally forgotten the lesson(s) learned when they done the same thing leading up to Phantom Menace. Plus side is the retailers haven't forgotten those lessons especially with the reminders that's been Disney's SW. So it remains to be seen what actually do show up on the shelves.
 
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What is the purpose?
Its only purpose seems to be to crash and fail in the most embarrassing manner imaginable.
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They're supposedly going to appear on the not-Tatooine planet from IX where after they crash, jet troopers show up to chase after Rey and the gang via jetpacks.

Anyway, here's more info and spoiler shit...

1: The Solo movie is rumored to be getting a fucking sequel, but it won't be theatrical, it will be a Disney+ exclusive show. Disney is determined to prove its not a failure.
There's also rumors that the KOTOR and RJ films will be Disney+ exclusives.

2: Disney wants to make sure you remember that the Mandalorian really isn't about bounty hunting or exploring the SW universe of olde, its only purpose is to glorify the First Order and force you to like them.

3: This is Steph from Galaxy's Edge.
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She is a muslim young woman native to Batuu who works as a greeter but secretly serves as an informant for the Resistance. Does this mean Islam is canon in SW now? Also employee uniforms have been updated to feature more colors in Florida's park. Previously employee clothes were restricted to dull grey and brown clothing. I'm guessing Disney thinks making things more colorful will make people like the park more? I should also note that I've finally received info on Florida's park, and apparently its more saturated and colorful than the one in California. Not sure why but I assume its because they wanted the one in Florida to be less Tatooine-ish. Might explain why its getting less visitors.

I'll post more later...
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Its only purpose seems to be to crash and fail in the most embarrassing manner imaginable.
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They're supposedly going to appear on the not-Tatooine planet from IX where after they crash, jet troopers show up to chase after Rey and the gang via jetpacks.

Anyway, here's more info and spoiler shit...

1: The Solo movie is rumored to be getting a fucking sequel, but it won't be theatrical, it will be a Disney+ exclusive show. Disney is determined to prove its not a failure.
There's also rumors that the KOTOR and RJ films will be Disney+ exclusives.

2: Disney wants to make sure you remember that the Mandalorian really isn't about bounty hunting or exploring the SW universe of olde, its only purpose is to glorify the First Order and force you to like them.

3: This is Steph from Galaxy's Edge.
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She is a muslim young woman native to Batuu who works as a greeter but secretly serves as an informant for the Resistance. Does this mean Islam is canon in SW now? Also employee uniforms have been updated to feature more colors in Florida's park. Previously employee clothes were restricted to dull grey and brown clothing. I'm guessing Disney thinks making things more colorful will make people like the park more? I should also note that I've finally received info on Florida's park, and apparently its more saturated and colorful than the one in California. Not sure why but I assume its because they wanted the one in Florida to be less Tatooine-ish. Might explain why its getting less visitors.

I'll post more later...
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Please don’t tell me she is actually Muslim in story
 
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