Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Sheryl Nome]

In a world where lawsuits didn't cost a thing, I would agree.

Everyone has motivation to settle, right now. Make no mistake.

If only there was some law that would award defendants atty fees if they could get the lawsuit dismissed through some special motion

like the TCPA.

Which discourages settlement until the TCPA has been defeated.

 

[Slimy Time]

Because people that have undue influence (Sabat for example) want him gone. The fact that Funi doesn’t owe these people shit, and most VAs that would leave being utterly replaceable, is something that probably hasn’t dawned on them due to the company being staffed window-licking r etards and ideologues.

Monica is Bulma number... 5? Marchi did who? There are some dub VAs who do have a distinctive voice: Sabat (unfortunately), Patrick Seitz, Schemmel (arguably), Johnny Yong Bosch and Vic (from those whose voices I can instantly recognise). The ones being sued I wouldn't be able to tell who they are if you played a voice clip of them acting.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Unfortunately, the mediator is damned Super Lawyer. Take that for what its worth.

Ugh, are there no more regular lawyers anymore? Or did they all get infected with the Verified Checkmark Syndrome?

There are cows like Chris-chan, then there are cows like Johnathon Ross....one of these cows belongs in prison. There are definitely different cows.

I mean there are brown cows, black cows and spotted cows. In the end, they all get mi.lk'd

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Note that despite the defendants constantly calling Vic a sex predator and pedophile and all sorts of terrible things, the record is devoid of a single instance of Vic even having sexual intercourse with anyone.

Whoa, Unpersoning hookers is not cool, Dude.

 

[AnOminous]

If Ty is smart, he will try to get Funimation to fold on the other defendants at the mediation session.

That's not going to happen with everyone there. The Machiavellian genius move would be to make a private settlement with Funimation before the mediation and then drop that on them like a nuke.

 

[Hoss]

I mean there are brown cows, black cows and spotted cows. In the end, they all get mi.lk'd

I'd rather mil.k a heifer than jackoff a bull.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

So are we in agreement that defendants should try to settle now because even if Chupp rules in their favor, appeals will send Chupp to the shadow realm and discovery will destroy the 3tards?

 

[Padoru]

So are we in agreement that defendants should try to settle now because even if Chupp rules in their favor, appeals will send Chupp to the shadow realm and discovery will destroy the 3tards?

everybody, especially Nick, has been saying for MONTHS that they should settle because everybody knew they'd get fucked in Discovery

 

[Sheryl Nome]

So are we in agreement that defendants should try to settle now because even if Chupp rules in their favor, appeals will send Chupp to the shadow realm and discovery will destroy the 3tards?

No. Defendants should not try to settle now, there's no rational reason to. They might win at appeals, anything they could hope to get through a concession right now would be the same as what they want to win at appeals, which is fees and the right to continue to call vic a sexual harasser.

The only reason defendants would 'settle' right now is if Vic spread his asshole for them.

There is no reason for settlement to happen at all prior to the TCPA ruling, Defendants are stupid and should have settled this in the first place, but you have to consider their actions and how they want to act, and they have no reason to settle when you take that into account

You can say 'well if defendants weren't stupid' but if we rewrite histroy that much you're dealing with defendants who are not these people, who would not have taken the stupid stupid actions they've taken, and these defendants, the ones in reality we have right now, do not want to settle, nor do they have reason to.

 

[Hoss]

So are we in agreement that defendants should try to settle now because even if Chupp rules in their favor, appeals will send Chupp to the shadow realm and discovery will destroy the 3tards?

They should but it would be royally stupid if they did. Why? You don't just "Pearl Harbor" a fucker then beg for forgiveness. Your ass is grass. "I'm Sowery" ain't gonna pay the bills and punitive damages. It's Unconditional Surrender or nothing now. I mean yeah Vic and Ty are VERY willing to settle (back in February) but the Defendants are HELL bent to damage them with impunity. They're willing to absolutely destroy their credit and financial futures to bring a tear to Vic's eye. Mediation is too fucking late. They capitulate to ANY of Vic's demands and they return to their followers ready to tear them limb from limb. Vic is merciful, but they are unapologetic. You don't grant mercy to the unapologetic.

"Do not cast pearls before swine"

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

The longer the defense fights and acts righteous, the more shit will be brought out of the shadows. I guarantee it.

There's more dirt to uncover. Likely more solid proof about shit they wish wasn't true. People are going to keep finding things because there are people invested in this.

So if they wanna play ball they can.

 

[lawtwitterthrowaway]

No. Defendants should not try to settle now, there's no rational reason to. They might win at appeals, anything they could hope to get through a concession right now would be the same as what they want to win at appeals, which is fees and the right to continue to call vic a sexual harasser.

The only reason defendants would 'settle' right now is if Vic spread his asshole for them.

They have a perfectly rational reason to, actually. Same as Vic has.

And it's name is "throwing time and money at an uncertain future (i.e. appeals courts) in the hope that you win it all is actually kind of a scary fucking prospect". There's always a reason to take the little win instead of betting everything on red.

 

[Hoss]

They have a perfectly rational reason to, actually. Same as Vic has.

And it's name is "throwing time and money at an uncertain future (i.e. appeals courts) in the hope that you win it all is actually kind of a scary fucking prospect". There's always a reason to take the little win instead of betting everything on red.

You don't fold if you think you have the winning hand. They think they have one.

 

[WarJams]

I mean there are brown cows, black cows and spotted cows. In the end, they all get mi.lk'd

Not all cows are dairy cows. Some cows live only to provide tasty red meat. Of course even a dairy cow that stops producing is usually sent to be slaughtered. This all makes for some very morose analogies.

 

[lawtwitterthrowaway]

You don't fold if you think you have the winning hand. They think they have one.

I'm not saying I'm in their heads (if anything, the rest of this board should have long ago realized the futility of trying to psychoanalyze the judge and other actors in this case). I'm saying that taking any win that means you don't have to spend years more and however much money fighting the case through appeals is always going to be something to reason against.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

I'm not saying I'm in their heads (if anything, the rest of this board should have long ago realized the futility of trying to psychoanalyze the judge and other actors in this case). I'm saying that taking any win that means you don't have to spend years more and however much money fighting the case through appeals is always going to be something to reason against.

I don't think either side is 'reasonable' at this point though.
Its an expedited appeal, that sounds fine to everyone, they still think they get out free if they win TCPA, all of them.

I think this case should settle, but expecting it to pre-TCPA appeal is just not going to happen
Fuck, Vic doesn't even have to BOND on the TCPA appeal, its fucking nutso this law.

 

[Gehenna]

That's not going to happen with everyone there. The Machiavellian genius move would be to make a private settlement with Funimation before the mediation and then drop that on them like a nuke.

I wouldn't trust Ty to pull off that. He has proven himself, beyond any reasonable doubt, to be to smart for his own good. It was his own gaming and Machiavellian plans that fucked his end of that TCPA hearing.

My thoughts,
While it would be best for everyone to stop throwing their money into the bonfire, it ain't gonna happen.

As is, every party of this has the same financial motive to end that any lawsuit has. BUT, and I think those supporting this motive forget this, the financial motive is rarely sufficient on its own. It, especially as a court case drags on, does become a fairly persuasive motivation but people tend to have skin in the game outside of money.
MoRon are hardcore believers, Marchi is do or die for her friend, Funimation is puppeted by a man who personally hates Vic, and Vic himself is in it to get his name cleared which means the others need to fold for his objective to be met.

This means in order for the money motivation to work, their PRIMARY motivation needs to be sufficiently damaged or removed.
So, is any primary motivators damaged?
MoRon - No, just flat no, and frankly I don't see any of them EVER folding. They not only fully believe their own bullshit, they also fully believe (AND NEED as an important note) the TCPA to win in appeal. Money is the OPPOSITE motivator for them, as they have been burning it hard.

Marchi - Do or die with her friends, and is out for all intents and purposes. Literally no motivator just like MoRon, neither primary nor monetary.

Funimation -Pooossibly. None of us know, or will know, if Toei has made its displeasure known for the tapes. Nor would we know any pressure that may be coming from Sony. If none or low, then Funimation has absolutely no reason outside of money, which they have to burn. If yes, then they may be willing to roll over. No way to know as any indicators are done behind closed doors.

Vic - No, just flat no. His primary goal would not be met at all here, he has the GoFundMe to help funds, and a fairly lucrative career on the convention circuit to fall back on for savings. Not to mention the TCPA hearing was a farce, so appeals are quite possible.

In summarization, with the POSSIBLE exception of Funimation, no one has any reason to actually settle. Not even monetary.

 

[lawtwitterthrowaway]

I wouldn't trust Ty to pull off that. He has proven himself, beyond any reasonable doubt, to be to smart for his own good. It was his own gaming and Machiavellian plans that fucked his end of that TCPA hearing.

Well...no. What fucked his end of the hearing was three things. First, the 8/30 Filing, which was awful and late and entirely his fault. Second, the way he tried to get around how much of a shitheap that was by filing the 2aP. Third, he didn't prepare for the possibility that the 2aP would get struck, and then he got stuck trying to argue his shitass 8/30 filing, what with its lack of clear and convincing evidence and missing arguments.

That's not gaming and Machiavellian plans. That's laziness and incompetence.

 

[Garm]

You don't fold if you think you have the winning hand. They think they have one.

Ehh... They probably don't have a hand. The only reason they are in the game at all is the TCPA.

And depending on how the defendants take it, Chupp is signaling that they need to fold. The one ace up their sleeve (the TCPA) might get them a single pot and then the rest of the night will be losses.

And to be fair, Ron thought this was going to be done and over with by September 6th. Someone has been spinning lies to him because now Ron has to go to a mediation. Their... Understanding of the situation seems limited.

A mediator is probably going to explain the law as well as the evidence. He is going to have a hard time because Lemoine and Sabat have probably told Ron all the wrong things. Ron doesn't like being corrected either.

 

[GRB86]

No. Defendants should not try to settle now, there's no rational reason to. They might win at appeals, anything they could hope to get through a concession right now would be the same as what they want to win at appeals, which is fees and the right to continue to call vic a sexual harasser.

The only reason defendants would 'settle' right now is if Vic spread his asshole for them.

There is no reason for settlement to happen at all prior to the TCPA ruling, Defendants are stupid and should have settled this in the first place, but you have to consider their actions and how they want to act, and they have no reason to settle when you take that into account

You can say 'well if defendants weren't stupid' but if we rewrite histroy that much you're dealing with defendants who are not these people, who would not have taken the stupid stupid actions they've taken, and these defendants, the ones in reality we have right now, do not want to settle, nor do they have reason to.

We know at least two of them cannot on the face of it even try to settle and that is Rial and Toye. They stated in their pleading that there would never be any agreement to settle, they wanted a trial, they should have a trial. Chupp F'd up and I believe he knows it, the day before he was chastised by the State Supreme Court on another matter and when he walked in we could see he was salty. Now Chupp has pulled them in, and yes Ms. Marchi your back in, your attorney has stated as much in his letter which let the judge know he would be out of town the 23rd to 30th. If your attorney is concerned he would miss something then your not free and clear. The only one who has even a bit of interest in settling would be Funimation. A nice, We're really sorry letter, a fee and a "we agree these VA's suck" and we'll give you their communications on agreement no further action can be addressed could be a way of unloading this mess going into a Sony buyout.