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They all do seem a tad like vultures, Hero Hei seems like the one of few that is probably doing this and TRYING to be a somewhat okay/decent youtube journalist(As in not doing this for complete clout). Now how successful he is at it is up to the viewer naturally, but idk, I feel unlike the other three, he seems to have a somewhat investment in this for the community angle. Idk, that's my impression of hero hei compared to those three. *Already prepared for them negative ratings.*
Reporters are Grifters (or Vultures). Pundits are Grifters. They sell information or prespective for money. These YT are basically Pundits. Some outlets are able to come off like the NYT used to do and some come of like the National Enquirer. Both get picked up at the newstand. I don't know why this is treated like some national crisis, though.
 
"HEY GUISE! HEROGEI IS A SCAM ARTISTS, HE CLAIMS HE DONATING VIC MERCH MONEYS TO VIC BUT HE AIN'T SHOW ANY EBIDANS"

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I like how if someone doesn't advertise to the world that they're doing something, it magically doesn't happen.
 
I don't know why this is treated like some national crisis, though.

There were once paid mourners for funerals for people that did not have many people they were close to (or their reputations were in the gutter).
Welcome to Current Year!
The paid mourners are now crying attention whores grifting money from paypigs and receiving asspats from like-minded simpletons.
 
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Don't forget. Vic is the only one in this case with a history of trying de-escalation. Fighting negativitybwith positivity, denouncing perceived harassment (because I still refuse to believe a lot of people doing one action is harassment. It would be if one person did a lot of actions.)
Didn’t Chuck also try to deescalate as a third party?
They all do seem a tad like vultures, Hero Hei seems like the one of few that is probably doing this and TRYING to be a somewhat okay/decent youtube journalist(As in not doing this for complete clout). Now how successful he is at it is up to the viewer naturally, but idk, I feel unlike the other three, he seems to have a somewhat investment in this for the community angle. Idk, that's my impression of hero hei compared to those three. *Already prepared for them negative ratings.*
I think Hero Hei being too scared to show screencaps of certain morons out of fear of bullshit copyright strikes annoys me a bit as much as TUG is a drama queen grifter/the rest of ISWV's talking heads who aren't Nick are just boring clout chasing fucktards.

I dislike almost all the talking heads as much as their narrative is a "necessary evil".
Hei is not perfect, and he's not expected to be perfect. He truly does have his own flaws.
I mean can you blame him? ANN already went after him once already and well you don't realize how easy and terrifying the youtube three strike system is. Like three strikes and you are gone, no if, ands, or buts about it, your account is nuked. That's a terrifyingly broken system especially those that rely on it for their income(not going to go into why that is a terrible emotional life choice, it's stressful, anxiety filled and 100% arbitrary on who gets paid for that.)

Three Strikes and you are completely unpersoned on youtube and sent back to square 1.

And well Hero Hei is putting his livelihood first and foremost, and I can give him a slight pass for that reason alone. It's a fucked situation, I'm willing to let that slide.
HH is a pretty chill dude. My two cents is that he’s able to take the highlights of Nick’s streams (probably the only WW source that’s been deemed trustworthy even if he’s openly skewed one way) and presenting it in digestible chunks because Nick’s streams are late and long and watching may be something only a certain level of dedicated does.
 
Now for the sequel of autistism, but this time, a third party who can't help but try to lecture both sides with a lack of understanding as a whole. It's the fact that this person tries to make ISWV to be just as bad as KV, but that's not even getting into the downright lies this is filled with about ISWV
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- Refuses to disown bat apples
- Took months to disown Perfection
Make up your mind dude.

Also, plainfully false:
- Made of Trump supporters (still haven't figured it out... still haven't...)
- Most of them are wimpy non-intimidating guys themselves (you're just assuming, and you'd be surprised)
- Are still lose with the block button (I don't think so)
- Don't follow a damn thing Vic has preached (I wouldn't make a generality there)
- Treat theories as fact (you're guilty of that on several points in both lists, pratice what you preach, or don't preach)
- Have nerve to accuse VA of being unknown (you can be a nobody and tell someone else is a nobody too, people in ISWV are not the ones trying to pretend they're royalty...)
- Brand you a liar if you can't prove something happened (Peter and the wolf, KV has a good track record of lying, so assuming they lie until proven otherwise is the smart way to go)
And I don't know who is Mr Roger, so I might disagree with some points mentionning him too, but I can't tell.

If you added a KickVic hashtag on this, and posted it on twitter, I'm sure you'd get KV to like and retweet it.
They can't meme, I'm sure anyone could bait them to like and retweet something making fun of them if subtle enough.
 
I've considered getting into independent journalism but after this experience I feel like hugging a live power line would be a better vocational choice.
Well if you like to throw your dignity to the trash in order to get something to eat it might still be a vocation.
Don't worry I feel you, I wanted to be one too until I saw the underground world of this job.
 
Got ourselves a checkmark commenting on the case now with Mike Tromboneford further in tow in the comments section.

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Why are people so stuck on Vic being called a piece of shit as if he's suing for that? He was called a piece of shit to slag his character, not because he's a literal piece of shit. He's using the slagging of his character to support his claim for damages with other actual defamatory messages. Damn, these people are dense.

These people are ignoring the context here in the same way that the UK ignored the context in Markus Meechan's Nazi Pug video.
 
Why are people so stuck on Vic being called a piece of shit as if he's suing for that? He was called a piece of shit to slag his character, not because he's a literal piece of shit. He's using the slagging of his character to support his claim for damages with other actual defamatory messages. Damn, these people are dense.

These people are ignoring the context here in the same way that the UK ignored the context in Markus Meechan's Nazi Pug video.

Becuase the new cultural rules state that if you're a piece of shit -- or even just declared outside of the tribe by your moral betters -- you lose your civil rights.

To these people, including law twitter, Vic being named a piece of shit by his woke betters means that everything they did to him was justified. To them, "he's a piece of shit" is the beginning and end of the conversation.
 
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Well if you like to throw your dignity to the trash in order to get something to eat it might still be a vocation.
Don't worry I feel you, I wanted to be one too until I saw the underground world of this job.
Ehh.... You can still keep your dignity. It's that it's the HARDER path to follow, then it is to just sell out and parrot out. Although.... Gives me an excuse to post one piece stuff.
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I mean while there is issues I find, gotta admit, he got some valid standards.
 
Can we all agree that TUG, Senpai, and Flash are fucking scumbags that we'd enjoy watching get stung repeatedly by tarantula hawk wasps? Could be just me feeling that way, I suppose.
Hei’s a good boi he dindu nuffin, he’s the only one I watch for updates when I don’t feel like sitting through 4 hour Nick livestreams. He’s the only ISWVtuber who doesn’t give off the vibe of just generally being an unpleasant person IMO, probably has to do with his mostly factual titles and the fact that his videos aren’t actually all that vindictive. You also don’t see him covering generic culture wars bullshit like YF and other CG hangers-ons, so I find it easier to believe that he covers topics because he’s genuinely interested or invested in them.

The guys you listed can fuck right off, though.
 
Got ourselves a checkmark commenting on the case now with Mike Tromboneford further in tow in the comments section.

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Why are people so stuck on Vic being called a piece of shit as if he's suing for that? He was called a piece of shit to slag his character, not because he's a literal piece of shit. He's using the slagging of his character to support his claim for damages with other actual defamatory messages. Damn, these people are dense.

These people are ignoring the context here in the same way that the UK ignored the context in Markus Meechan's Nazi Pug video.

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Can we all agree that TUG, Senpai, and Flash are fucking scumbags that we'd enjoy watching get stung repeatedly by tarantula hawk wasps? Could be just me feeling that way, I suppose.

Any of the YTers covering this shit other than Nick are pretty much worthless, seem like a bunch of incredibly obnoxious literal nobodies hoping to get their 15 minutes of fame off the controversy.
 
Any of the YTers covering this shit other than Nick are pretty much worthless, seem like a bunch of incredibly obnoxious literal nobodies hoping to get their 15 minutes of fame off the controversy.
It really does make me want to start some channel to cover it. It'd be easy money as long as you can summarize properly and not completely sperg out.
 
Hei’s a good boi he dindu nuffin, he’s the only one I watch for updates when I don’t feel like sitting through 4 hour Nick livestreams. He’s the only ISWVtuber who doesn’t give off the vibe of just generally being an unpleasant person IMO, probably has to do with his mostly factual titles and the fact that his videos aren’t actually all that vindictive. You also don’t see him covering generic culture wars bullshit like YF and other CG hangers-ons, so I find it easier to believe that he covers topics because he’s genuinely interested or invested in them.

The guys you listed can fuck right off, though.
I stopped following TUG and YF when I noticed how boring they were and the fact that they both are stuck on repeat was becoming old.
I do just like you, if I don't feel like listening to Nick for 4 hours or I don't have the time I just watch Hei's vids when I am eating.

It really does make me want to start some channel to cover it. It'd be easy money as long as you can summarize properly and not completely sperg out.

Be careful, some ISWV will call you a Perfection 3.0 or MBA 2.0 because you don't have the same view as them or because you would call out those who ride on the Vic wave for some easy clout.
 
Can we all agree that TUG, Senpai, and Flash are fucking scumbags that we'd enjoy watching get stung repeatedly by tarantula hawk wasps? Could be just me feeling that way, I suppose.
Out of everyone in this whole thing, I have much preferred Watching Nick or Hero, mainly because Hero was who I found when I first started looking into this whole Vic thing. At least Hero (to me.) Has a likeable personality. All in All, I would agree with you a fair bit about TUG, Senpai and Flash. Oh, Emosh. Emosh is pretty cool. I like that guy
 
Ehhh.... I wouldn't go THAT far on that.
You'd truly be surprised how much I've seen people from ISWV screeching at people that doesn't agree with them on certain points.
I don't say that they are all like that but there sure are some weird kids among it.
 
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