Trolling Ethics Debate Thread

[CatParty]

A thread got totally derailed, so let's talk about it here. When it comes to failed attempts at a "Long Con", the difference between a troll and a ween is timing. Whoever gets to Chris first is the troll and the WINNAR. Even though Chris is shockingly gullible, being the second person to have the idea will make you a failure.

pretty much like everything in life

 

[EI 903]

pretty much like everything in life

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[Le Bateleur]

pretty much like everything in life

Two hipsters walk into a bar. The first does it before it was cool. The second does it ironically.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

I caught an STD from a hipster chick once, the Doctor said he'd never heard of it.

 

[Datiko]

So if the only difference between a ween and a troll is who gets there first, then there is no difference between a ween and a troll. Take whatever from either then cast them aside for the next best thing.

 

[Cuck Norris]

So if the only difference between a ween and a troll is who gets there first, then there is no difference between a ween and a troll. Take whatever from either then cast them aside for the next best thing.

That's the joke. Trolls fade away into obscurity, Chris-Senpai is eternal.

 

[EI 903]

I caught an STD from a hipster chick once, the Doctor said he'd never heard of it.

To be fair, nobody has ever done that to a Dalek's eye stalk before.

 

[Morbid Boredom]

No a ween is a failure of a human being loved by no one and a troll is a hero loved by everyone.

But of course!

Unfortunately, some people do believe that. They forget how astoundingly gullible Chris is, and in truth tricking Chris requires neither courage nor skill.

 

[LazarusOwenhart]

So if the only difference between a ween and a troll is who gets there first, then there is no difference between a ween and a troll. Take whatever from either then cast them aside for the next best thing.

I don't think that's entirely true. The legendary Trolls like Alec and Marvin did what they did then quietly, and with dignity, presented the material for all the world to see. Weens on the other hand will call Chris' house, yell "JUULAAAAY!", then jump up and down on every fucking forum they can yelling about how stupendously clever they are.

 

[Anchuent Dictata]

I don't think that's entirely true. The legendary Trolls like Alec and Marvin did what they did then quietly, and with dignity, presented the material for all the world to see. Weens on the other hand will call Chris' house, yell "JUULAAAAY!", then jump up and down on every fucking forum they can yelling about how stupendously clever they are.

Wieners gonna ween.

 

[Le Bateleur]

Being derivative or running something into the ground frequently gets called ween. Whether or not it's semantically accurate is arguable, but repetitive or copycat trolling is pretty obviously annoying. The very first troll to yell Julaay might have been funny; by the third, fourth, hundredth time, less so.

 

[Foulmouth]

Being derivative or running something into the ground frequently gets called ween. Whether or not it's semantically accurate is arguable, but repetitive or copycat trolling is pretty obviously annoying. The very first troll to yell Julaay might have been funny; by the third, fourth, hundredth time, less so.

 

[Marvin]

So if the only difference between a ween and a troll is who gets there first, then there is no difference between a ween and a troll.

That's only the case if you assume there's no value in innovation.

A ween is a lame, aspiring troll. What exactly qualifies as lame is up for debate.

A lot of people reasonably think doing the same thing to Chris over and over again is lame.

 

[IncinerateChicken]

That's only the case if you assume there's no value in innovation.

A ween is a lame, aspiring troll. What exactly qualifies as lame is up for debate.

A lot of people reasonably think doing the same thing to Chris over and over again is lame.

It is the unfortunate truth that a majority of people with access to Chris have to be very careful to avoid anything that might be labeled as "ween", and thus this limits direct information .

Personally, I think getting somebody in those trials is critical, and sitting passively would hardly be weening. Just for the record.

 

[Silver]

Personally, I think getting somebody in those trials is critical, and sitting passively would hardly be weening. Just for the record.

I'd say the difference here between weening and just being a Christorian is whether or not it inconveniences anyone. If you go to the trial and find Chris' lawyer and ask him questions or whatever that'd be weening, but attending the trial and being passive doesn't really get in anyone's way.

 

[AnOminous]

So if the only difference between a ween and a troll is who gets there first, then there is no difference between a ween and a troll. Take whatever from either then cast them aside for the next best thing.

Nobody had previously done what BlueSpike did to Chris, but that was the height of weenery.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

It is the unfortunate truth that a majority of people with access to Chris have to be very careful to avoid anything that might be labeled as "ween", and thus this limits direct information.

If only more folks understood this.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

It is the unfortunate truth that a majority of people with access to Chris have to be very careful to avoid anything that might be labeled as "ween", and thus this limits direct information .

Personally, I think getting somebody in those trials is critical, and sitting passively would hardly be weening. Just for the record.

Trolling Chris suffers from what I call the "D&D Phenomena".

This is easily seen in newcomers to the decades old game Dungeons & Dragons: A person new to the scene will come up with what they think is just the greatest game-changing idea ever- only to discover it was done in rulebook "X" twenty years- and then get a little frustrated, then they'll try again. Then they'll find out that this next great idea was published in book "Y" ten years ago, get even more frustrated and then think of (to them) another great idea...only to find out it was published in module "Z" last year struggle even harder to be individually relevant. Lather, rinse, repeat.

There comes an eventual time when they either chimp out and get booted from the table, or simmer down and work in the established set of rules.

 

[Cosmos]

(This isn't only pertaining to Chris but to trolling in general) I just feel like when trolling crosses the boundary from provoking a reaction to outright harassment, it's gone way too far. There's nothing funny or clever about making death threats, for example. I think that most people understand this, but there are still quite a few people (like weens) out there who think that harassment = A+ trolling.

 

[Cynical]

(This isn't only pertaining to Chris but to trolling in general) I just feel like when trolling crosses the boundary from provoking a reaction to outright harassment, it's gone way too far. There's nothing funny or clever about making death threats, for example. I think that most people understand this, but there are still quite a few people (like weens) out there who think that harassment = A+ trolling.

Couldn't agree more. Trolling that is funny is more along the lines of an elaborate practical joke that, at worst, only wounds the victims pride for being so gullible, like that long running Shigeru Miyamoto saga, which was amusing because all it did was milk Chris gullibility for the lulz and hurt no one aside from Chris' ego.

Lines are crossed when you cause the subject harm and grief beyond simple loss of face, like the infamous Bluespike medallion incident, which could have caused Chris rectal damage as well causing a man of mental fragility genuine psychological harm (Chris was legitimately upset over that incident as I recall), and malicious tormenting someone for your own pleasure like Bluespike did is when trolling stops being funny and starts being fucked up.