Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Aria]

Mba if your sick of this drama then don't insert yourself into drama or you could just do the simple thing and ignore it.

Everyday this nigger finds something to whine about like doesnt this guy have a life to live instead of going onto youtube and starting up drama like he did last time by exploting etikas death.

 

[Garm]

I agree that Monica is just a petty drama queen exploiting the SJW zeitgeist for her own personal ends.

Personally, I think Marchi might actually be an SJW given her more militant takes at the beginning of the Weeb Wars and all those woke talking points randomly inserted into dubs she was involved with.

Monica will likely be the first to fold and even then, she'll hold out for as long as she possibly can and go down fighting but Sabat will likely be the "Final Boss" figure of this whole thing, and Marchi will probably fall alongside him unless we get definitive proof of the casting couch and Sabat gets taken down earlier in a perfect example of irony.

Until more concrete dirt on Sabat gets uncovered, he's gonna be the last domino to fall, with Marchi being the next to last one. Marchi's the Umlaut to Sabat's Tokentakker, the Motaro to his Shao Kahn, the Darth Vader to his Emperor Palpatine, and I think I'll stop with the pop culture analogies.

I get the feeling that once discovery starts in earnest, this whole thing falls apart. They probably used personal email, Twitter DMs and text messages so they have don't have deniability.

 

[Junk Dog]

Mba if your sick of this drama then don't insert yourself into drama or you could just do the simple thing and ignore it.

Everyday this nigger finds something to whine about like doesnt this guy have a life to live instead of going onto youtube and starting up drama like he did last time by exploting etikas death.

He does love to boast about how he has a life and a job compared to all the people he labels as trolls. Doesn't stop him from making, editing and releasing video after video that get a few hundred views all the time for his brain dead audience while saying he doesn't want anything to do with things involving Vic.

Wasn't this dude in prison before too? Wonder what kind of job they give people with a criminal record that doesn't involve flipping burgers at a McDonald's or braking ones back at a shitty construction job.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Wasn't this dude in prison before too? Wonder what kind of job they give people with a criminal record that doesn't involve flipping burgers at a McDonald's or braking ones back at a shitty construction job.

He's living off his wife's credit score and business.

 

[Adach_Ame]

Mba if your sick of this drama then don't insert yourself into drama or you could just do the simple thing and ignore it.

Everyday this nigger finds something to whine about like doesnt this guy have a life to live instead of going onto youtube and starting up drama like he did last time by exploting etikas death.

Yeah, that's all MBA does it seems, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch... It's like basically he doesn't know how to end things. You need a start, middle, and end. With MBA it's Start, Middle, then stall and drag out the middle and never have the resolve to think of a way to concisely end what he is talking about, he just moves on to the next thing to bitch about.

 

[LuNaS]

Just got a thought running through my head, people already mentioned how this mediation may partially be used to gauge the rationality and good faith of the parties... Can the Defendants actually present a deal that won't make them look like complete Douccetes that they would actually take?

I mean, what could they ask, "stop the lawsuit and pay our fees because you got no case, and in exchange we do absolutely nothing." That still makes them look like lunatics.

Funimation could honestly make a decent deal, claiming the others made knowingly false statements and claiming authority where there was none. In exchange of making a small monetary arrangement with Vic.

But the others can't make even an attempt at a reasonable deal without losing their entire narrative. Or can they? Is there any possible settlement they could present that doesn't fuck over their narrative one way or another?

 

[Padoru]

Just got a thought running through my head, people already mentioned how this mediation may partially be used to gauge the rationality and good faith of the parties... Can the Defendants actually present a deal that won't make them look like complete Douccetes that they would actually take?

I mean, what could they ask, "stop the lawsuit and pay our fees because you got no case, and in exchange we do absolutely nothing." That still makes them look like lunatics.

Funimation could honestly make a decent deal, claiming the others made knowingly false statements and claiming authority where there was none. In exchange of making a small monetary arrangement with Vic.

But the others can't make even an attempt at a reasonable deal without losing their entire narrative. Or can they? Is there any possible settlement they could present that doesn't fuck over their narrative one way or another?

Monica, Ron and Jamie can't offer any deal that benefits them AND makes them look good. Funimation can.

 

[jameshameson]

what an absloute fucking embarrassment

 

[2lolis1cup]

Just got a thought running through my head, people already mentioned how this mediation may partially be used to gauge the rationality and good faith of the parties... Can the Defendants actually present a deal that won't make them look like complete Douccetes that they would actually take?

I mean, what could they ask, "stop the lawsuit and pay our fees because you got no case, and in exchange we do absolutely nothing." That still makes them look like lunatics.

Funimation could honestly make a decent deal, claiming the others made knowingly false statements and claiming authority where there was none. In exchange of making a small monetary arrangement with Vic.

But the others can't make even an attempt at a reasonable deal without losing their entire narrative. Or can they? Is there any possible settlement they could present that doesn't fuck over their narrative one way or another?

No.

Every party is in until TCPA is finished. There is no reason other than a gun to the head that would be logical to make a deal right now.

After the TCPA Marchi and Funi have real possibilities of deals assuming both are still in the lawsuit. Monica and Toye have no real possibilities of a deal, since they have to walk back every statement as publicly as possible. The legal fees of Monica and Toye are most likely prohibitively expensive right now, but are offset on a promise. That promise being TCPA will pay for them.

In the end Vic would likely just allow every person sued to walk away if they publicly admitted they lied about him and he is innocent of every rumor. Only Funi and maybe Marchi are likely to take this deal.

 

[Aria]

Just got a thought running through my head, people already mentioned how this mediation may partially be used to gauge the rationality and good faith of the parties... Can the Defendants actually present a deal that won't make them look like complete Douccetes that they would actually take?

I mean, what could they ask, "stop the lawsuit and pay our fees because you got no case, and in exchange we do absolutely nothing." That still makes them look like lunatics.

Funimation could honestly make a decent deal, claiming the others made knowingly false statements and claiming authority where there was none. In exchange of making a small monetary arrangement with Vic.

But the others can't make even an attempt at a reasonable deal without losing their entire narrative. Or can they? Is there any possible settlement they could present that doesn't fuck over their narrative one way or another?

Monica and the rest of the defendants will never make a deal with vic unless it benefits them.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

what an absloute fucking embarrassment

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'Martin Bettik' isn't even a real person, with a real job, let alone a real lawyer.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

I honestly don't understand why Nick cares what MBA thinks, or why he's even apologizing. Very weird swerve.

 

[Aria]

I honestly don't understand why Nick cares what MBA thinks, or why he's even apologizing. Very weird swerve.

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Why are you apologising nick you did nothing wrong.why does nick care about mba he should have ignored him.

At the end of the day mba is a irrelevant demonitized youtuber that no one really cares about.

Nick should just ignore him and move he doesn't need to listen to the ranting of a inseure black dude that has too much time on his hands.

 

[MadPanda]

I honestly don't understand why Nick cares what MBA thinks, or why he's even apologizing. Very weird swerve.

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Personally I agree with you, but nick may be wanting to make some sort of peace because the whole thing really comes off as a giant misunderstanding(MBA, if i recall correctly, thinks he was defending...damn it cant remember, but he had majin thot is all I remember) as him defending that guy or something. Might have came off as nick choosing sides or whatever to MBA. Again I guess we should ask nick, but that is my guess.

 

[LuNaS]

Monica and the rest of the defendants will never make a deal with vic unless it benefits them.

I know that part, but the bigger issue with my question is what are they going to do in mediation, we know they are not going to try and make a deal, but if they don't even make a token attempt after the judge was so insistent about them at least giving it a try, how will that reflect on both them and their narrative?

Again, they have to try and make a token attempt at mediation, if they don't they would look bad with the he court, but even a token attempt fucks over their narrative either with the court or with the twiters.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

I honestly don't understand why Nick cares what MBA thinks, or why he's even apologizing. Very weird swerve.

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Oof, he bend the knee. But then again mba is a unhinged convicted felon, apologizing never works and mba would still post lies about him.

 

[MadPanda]

I know that part, but the bigger issue with my question is what are they going to do in mediation, we know they are not going to try and make a deal, but if they don't even make a token attempt after the judge was so insistent about them at least giving it a try, how will that reflect on both them and their narrative?

Again, they have to try and make a token attempt at mediation, if they don't they would look bad with the he court, but even a token attempt fucks over their narrative either with the court or with the twiters.

Realistically, the only real token attempt I can see is that Vic is mandated to go get some sort of counseling(even though he already had it) as part of the settlement, and then they spin it by implying(without outright stating) that he is getting help for his "problems" and they walk back the accusations of pedophilia. That will be how they can keep a narrative(or salvage one at least) and get out the lawsuit. Again it would still require them to walk back some lies, but they can always say "It started a conversation".

Do not take this as me wanting this to happen. I just get the feeling they will try and make him do something that has nothing to do with what they defame him for and then let others spin the narrative.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Realistically, the only real token attempt I can see is that Vic is mandated to go get some sort of counseling(even though he already had it) as part of the settlement,

That's not realistic. They can't demand it from him. They can try and force it, but mediation is about reaching compromise. "You need to admit that you're a predator by going to counselling" isn't a compromise of any sort, and if the mediator is even remotely competent, he will guide them away from any attempt to impose that post haste.

 

[Chronic Perturbator]

That's not realistic. They can't demand it from him. They can try and force it, but mediation is about reaching compromise. "You need to admit that you're a predator by going to counselling" isn't a compromise of any sort, and if the mediator is even remotely competent, he will guide them away from any attempt to impose that post haste.

We've already seen them most likely disregard the recommendations of their lawyers. What makes you think the mediator will have any luck in wrangling?

 

[MadPanda]

That's not realistic. They can't demand it from him. They can try and force it, but mediation is about reaching compromise. "You need to admit that you're a predator by going to counselling" isn't a compromise of any sort, and if the mediator is even remotely competent, he will guide them away from any attempt to impose that post haste.

True. I could see them trying to lead it with him needing to go for being a "sex addict"(even though I do not think he is), but then have their followers spin it as him going for being a predator. Vic should really take nothing from them except for a public retraction, apology, and a non disparagement agreement(for both defendant and plaintiff) and in return, not request monetary compensation.

We've already seen them most likely disregard the recommendations of their lawyers. What makes you think the mediator will have any luck in wrangling?

None whatsoever, but the mediator has to be actually neutral going in. The mediator may sympathize with the defendants and potentially affect chupps decision on ruling. We will see appeals probably no matter what, but it really depends on this mediator where the appeals come from.