NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

[Denmark Mafia]

But Resetera IS incredibly titled towards Nintendo. Even the PC side of Resetera was quickly nuked/banned by SweetNicole and they all left to create Metacouncil https://metacouncil.com/

NeoGAF used to be a Sony shill factory, and even with the migration of the GAFugees to Resetera, it's Nintendo that rules the forum. All of the troons and the worst examples of men lose their minds each Nintendo direct.

Considering Tyler Malka even at his worst used to still tell the unhinged troons to go away, it's probably what partly kept NeoGAF titled towards shilling Sony over Nintendo.

95% of the normie Nintendo fans of the world will be your usual gamers, but the concentrated collection of Nintendo fans that exist on Resetera all seem to be the worst examples of male feminists or unhinged troons.

Agreed. While the Nintendo fans on GAF were already an autistic pest (Remember RPGCrazied who is a 40+ sped living with his mom?), they did not rule the forum. Sony fans did.

This did change with REE. Fuck with Nintendo and you will get dogpiled into oblivion. Of course there are still exceptional Sony fans. Imagine trying to hype up that POS Dreams

 

[DtoDab]

doing a big thunk

but isn't this in principle at least the exact opposite of loli

It's such a Galaxy Brained take really.

It's like saying you can't have sex with any adult since all adults have been children once.

It makes no goddamned sense, it's pure 14 year old Tumblr user logic in action, it's best to ignore because you can't even argue on the same level without sounding equally retarded.

 

[Beardfish]

I don't disagree with you, but fashion troonery seems to be tilting towards Nintendo on Resetera. I don't remember there being armies of troons shilling Sony on NeoGAF. It was mostly just Bish's legions or your regular console fanboy. Basically if you shill Sony and you are white, you are a good ally of black people in the eyes of Black Jesus (Bish).

People that will mostly just argue that they like console 1 over console 2 (Killzone is better than Halo, REEEEE!), not people fantasizing about the size of cock Luigi has or saying Bowser is trans. There seems to be at least a noticeable trend towards social justice/troonery/degeneracy and going full Nintendo.

Didn't some "games journalist" stick Nintendo controllers up his ass and write an article?

You're reading too much into this. Resetera was formed just as Nintendo was picking up popularity again. Plus, they usually put up games with familiar characters, which is a huge thing for crazy people because it gives them a sense of stability. It's easier to shitpost about Mario than it is about Norman Reedus on Death Stranding. Consider there's also an "all ages" approach to Nintendo games and that these people are manchildren and/or apply a "young age only" approach for their (usually imaginary) sexual partner, then bingo you got yourself a perfect recipe for lunatic obsession.

There's correlation, but I don't think there's causation. You can see what I mean when you notice the difference between how they view Nintendo and how they view Disney. They like Nintendo to a possibly unhealthy degree, but they would go to fucking war for Disney. Nintendo gives them some comfort, Disney gives them validation.

 

[Herbert West Reanimator]

Imagine trying to hype up that POS Dreams

It is literally not even a game; it's a set of tools for making "interactive experiences" (some of which are games). I've seen some good shit done in Dreams, and I know better than to dismiss a thing because most of its variations are shit (most of the variations of any medium are shit). Hype is just terrible, whether it's for Dreams or something else. Why would you willingly give up your ability to accurately judge a product's merits just so you can feel excited? More to the point, why would you try to get other people to make such a bad choice with their own powers of judgment? Only a mindless fanatic would do things like that. Quite coincidentally, ResetEra appears to be filled with mindless fanatics.

 

[Denmark Mafia]

It is literally not even a game; it's a set of tools for making "interactive experiences" (some of which are games). I've seen some good shit done in Dreams, and I know better than to dismiss a thing because most of its variations are shit (most of the variations of any medium are shit). Hype is just terrible, whether it's for Dreams or something else. Why would you willingly give up your ability to accurately judge a product's merits just so you can feel excited? More to the point, why would you try to get other people to make such a bad choice with their own powers of judgment? Only a mindless fanatic would do things like that. Quite coincidentally, ResetEra appears to be filled with mindless fanatics.

Yeah, I don't doubt some insanely dedicated people do some interesting things with it. But while LBP had an appealing design and art style to begin with, what exactly does Dreams have? They also needed an entire generation to make this, so dev costs are insanely high at this point. BUT WHY. Who really wants this? It's an interesting concept, I just don't really see this point. Diehard shills on Era will still try to sell it as hard as they can.

 

[DriveByTrolling]

You're reading too much into this. Resetera was formed just as Nintendo was picking up popularity again. Plus, they usually put up games with familiar characters, which is a huge thing for crazy people because it gives them a sense of stability. It's easier to shitpost about Mario than it is about Norman Reedus on Death Stranding. Consider there's also an "all ages" approach to Nintendo games and that these people are manchildren and/or apply a "young age only" approach for their (usually imaginary) sexual partner, then bingo you got yourself a perfect recipe for lunatic obsession.

There's correlation, but I don't think there's causation. You can see what I mean when you notice the difference between how they view Nintendo and how they view Disney. They like Nintendo to a possibly unhealthy degree, but they would go to fucking war for Disney. Nintendo gives them some comfort, Disney gives them validation.

Probably. Trying to do a deep dive into the lunacy of Resetera and explain things causes severe derangement.

 

[Denmark Mafia]

@DriveByTrolling I wanna thank for of keeping the tradition of Enzom avatars alive. I do like my excelsiorlef one, but we need to keep reminding ourselves of Enzom. His spirit lives on and rumors say, his ghost is still sometimes seen, angrily smashing on a keyboard begging for someone to finally finally call him a nigger. His curse can't be broken until it happens and thus he is forced to read Era till eternity without an account.

 

[BillionBisonBucks]

NeoGAF has expanded their giveaway feature to support user-run giveaways, and is currently flush with steam code raffles. If you have an account, it's just a few clicks to enter.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Didn't some "games journalist" stick Nintendo controllers up his ass and write an article?

There were 2. One (Jed Whitaker) that shoved controllers up his arse and then complained that it didn't work, and another who reviewed amiibos by shoving them up his arse. But it's YouTube, Adblock, and Gamergates fault that the games press is dying.

There's correlation, but I don't think there's causation. You can see what I mean when you notice the difference between how they view Nintendo and how they view Disney. They like Nintendo to a possibly unhealthy degree, but they would go to fucking war for Disney. Nintendo gives them some comfort, Disney gives them validation.

The fact there's correlation says something though. I don't know what it says, but there definitely seems to be a connection. Especially when you include the non-ResetEra lolcows sperg about Nintendo.

 

[InfamyBrah]

Most of Neogaf members never migrated to Resetera. Most of Resetera's members came from Nibel, ZhugeEx and Emily's Twitter/Blog followers. That's why the whole site is heavily biased toward Nintendo and that's why Cerium gave them admin position at the start of his business venture : to attract their followers even more. Him being a Nintendo fantard, might also explain it. He wanted Resetera to be his perfect little world, where Nintendo would be the most popular shit around.

Prop to him for testing his luck and investing money on something like that. He's not risk averse, which is a good thing in my book. The problem is that he missed his timing.

Resetera is basically irrelevent in the industry, while there was no doubt Neogaf was a marketing driving force in itself. Malka really caught lightning in a bottle with Neogaf. It won't happen ever again in a world with Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord and such. Internet is heavily centralized now and the video game industry has adapted quick.

 

[NotoriousD]

I mean it's not even that. Nezuko from Kimetsu no Yaiba literally has a canon adult form when she goes full demon.
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So in other words, it's even stupider than you might think. It'd be like whining about there being sexually suggestive pictures of Anna and Elsa from Frozen because they were children at the beginning of the movie.

Thanks for the confirmation. I haven't actually finished Yaiba yet and I wanted to say that because she DOES look bigger and older as a demon, but I wasn't completely sure if the artwork was canon or "what if?". But yeah, that IS more retarded then.

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Ok that's a thicc waifu

Sakimichan does excellent work and is one of the best western(I think she's western?)hentai artists out there, in my opinion.

 

[Beardfish]

The fact there's correlation says something though. I don't know what it says, but there definitely seems to be a connection. Especially when you include the non-ResetEra lolcows sperg about Nintendo.

There could be something, but it's definitely accidental. My theory here is that Nintendo characters are usually simpler, like you can reduce them to "italian man jumps out of pipes" and "blonde spacegirl shoots aliens in real space". It's just like Marvel. Speaking of this, Marvel lets them pretend that X-Men is a very deep and brave social analysis, just like Nintendo has off kilter stuff like Earthbound and the tactically demanding Advance Wars series. So you see, I'm not stupid for liking this, there's definitely a deeper layer! If you add too much to the core design of the character though people just can't relate that easily. Once they're hooked, they will defend the corporate overlords like crazy because what else are they going to do?

It's also easier to put up weird fetish drawings about an Inkling than it is about the boring and ugly Horizon Zero Dawn chick.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

There could be something, but it's definitely accidental. My theory here is that Nintendo characters are usually simpler, like you can reduce them to "italian man jumps out of pipes" and "blonde spacegirl shoots aliens in real space". It's just like Marvel. Speaking of this, Marvel lets them pretend that X-Men is a very deep and brave social analysis, just like Nintendo has off kilter stuff like Earthbound and the tactically demanding Advance Wars series. So you see, I'm not stupid for liking this, there's definitely a deeper layer! If you add too much to the core design of the character though people just can't relate that easily. Once they're hooked, they will defend the corporate overlords like crazy because what else are they going to do?

It's also easier to put up weird fetish drawings about an Inkling than it is about the boring and ugly Horizon Zero Dawn chick.

Every vidya can be easily reduced, this isn't some galaxy-brain take.

 

[Beardfish]

Every vidya can be easily reduced, this isn't some galaxy-brain take.

You can identify most of Nintendo protagonists easily using a few words. Can you do the same thing as effectively for Nathan Drake, Cole MacGrath or Deacon St. John? I'm not saying those characters are deeper (they are not), just that they aren't as instantly identifiable.

 

[PrincessHomura]

You can identify most of Nintendo protagonists easily using a few words. Can you do the same thing as effectively for Nathan Drake, Cole MacGrath or Deacon St. John? I'm not saying those characters are deeper (they are not), just that they aren't as instantly identifiable.

... Yes, you can. Do you really think you can't?

 

[Beardfish]

... Yes, you can. Do you really think you can't?

Not as effectively. Most people will know who you're talking about if you say "italian jumping man". Could you come up with 3-5 words to describe Nathan Drake? Sure you can, but it just won't be the same. It won't be as specific. Since the seventh generation, most of the industry have used regular looking people for the protagonist. Nintendo never shifted, they still use most of the same protagonists and the new ones (like Inklings) adhere to the same model they used before.

 

[FuckedUp]

You can identify most of Nintendo protagonists easily using a few words. Can you do the same thing as effectively for Nathan Drake, Cole MacGrath or Deacon St. John? I'm not saying those characters are deeper (they are not), just that they aren't as instantly identifiable.

• Modern-day Indiana Jones
• Snarky Everyman with electric superpowers

Haven't played Days Gone but you get the idea

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Not as effectively. Most people will know who you're talking about if you say "italian jumping man". Could you come up with 3-5 words to describe Nathan Drake? Sure you can, but it just won't be the same. It won't be as specific. Since the seventh generation, most of the industry have used regular looking people for the protagonist. Nintendo never shifted, they still use most of the same protagonists and the new ones (like Inklings) adhere to the same model they used before.

Are you also taking into account that with early Nintendo characters like Mario you're also talking about 30 odd years of constant cultural contact whereas in your other examples, there's what, 4, 3, and 1 game? I'm not sure, but I think that's close. It's going to have a different effect on how each "mascot" is treated.

What I find odd is that when I was younger it seemed as if there was a clear pattern of "gamer get older, moves to PSX & "mature" games" that's held true since the PSX came out. All of the sudden there's a whole group who on one hand claim that video games are now HIGH ART but on the other retreat into these (mostly) youth aimed Nintendo stories. I'm aware that Nintendo does offer some more mature stuff now, especially with the Switch, but it's still a very sanitized and safe product generally speaking. You can't say it's about not being offended because that'll never change so I'm led to think that most of them are just regressing into simpler themes as more of the whole "Sure can't adult now!" shit.

 

[Beardfish]

• Modern-day Indiana Jones
• Snarky Everyman with electric superpowers

Haven't played Days Gone but you get the idea

Those two definitions don't describe the character nearly as well as the Mario equivalent. The idea isn't to reduce the character to few words, but to communicate that character in simpler terms. Mario is easier to grasp because he's an extrapolated design. Cole and Nathan are normies who are way more interchangeable.

Are you also taking into account that with early Nintendo characters like Mario you're also talking about 30 odd years of constant cultural contact whereas in your other examples, there's what, 4, 3, and 1 game? I'm not sure, but I think that's close. It's going to have a different effect on how each "mascot" is treated.

What I find odd is that when I was younger it seemed as if there was a clear pattern of "gamer get older, moves to PSX & "mature" games" that's held true since the PSX came out. All of the sudden there's a whole group who on one hand claim that video games are now HIGH ART but on the other retreat into these (mostly) youth aimed Nintendo stories. I'm aware that Nintendo does offer some more mature stuff now, especially with the Switch, but it's still a very sanitized and safe product generally speaking. You can't say it's about not being offended because that'll never change so I'm led to think that most of them are just regressing into simpler themes as more of the whole "Sure can't adult now!" shit.

True, but I think those characters stuck around because the design was really effective. It's simple, elegant and not something you would mistake for anything else. Mario became popular because it's just a brilliant character.

I'm a HUGE Nintendo fan. I love their games, I love their focus on gameplay and I appreciate how they stay true to what they always did. I don't think Nintendo games are childish ("all age" is really how I'd describe them), I think most games that attempt to be mature are really sophomorish. Like take most Ubisoft stories, you can't convince those were not written by a teenager. Sony as a publisher also found a nice way to deliver their games, they're reasonably mature, engaging and usually tremendous to look at. Nintendo and Sony complement themselves so incredibly well it's amazing console warring is still a thing.

 

[R.E.O. Spedwagon]

I always figured that the troonish obsession with Nintendo comes from the same place as the Disney shit.
Both companies have the image of being "soft" and "cutesy", and this attracts wannabe women like moths to a flame.