Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

I have a friend who lives in a San Fran, all of the white techies have Asian wives/ girlfriends. She tells me that this is due to the "Suki Lee" syndrome - where men of a certain type believe that Asian women are only a substitute until white women learn to behave themselves and act like natural women.

Which is fun since my friend has seen these Asian women working their magic. They do the "water lily" routine - there they act all "me so shy" until turning into a controlling monster once they've married their techbro.
I know two of those... one,my neighbor, was yelled at on the street by his yellow waifu bc he was home late.
 
Why, it's almost like people can choose how they want to behave, instead of being merely the product of their environment...
I wonder what brings these guys to this level of lack of self-awareness or consideration of others autonomy. There's only so much a previously bad relationship can explain, if they even had that.
 
I wonder what brings these guys to this level of lack of self-awareness or consideration of others autonomy. There's only so much a previously bad relationship can explain, if they even had that.

No, it's denial. They know very well what they're saying isn't true; they just want to believe it, rather than accepting that they've made some remarkably poor decisions. "All Women Are Like That" absolves them of the difficult responsibility to be more discerning in their interactions with women; if eventually, we cannot be anything but horrid, gold-digging shrews, then they can just select for hotness and speed of panty-dropping and not worry about anything else.

What was always telling to me was how quickly, when offered the hope that it didn't have to be that way, they would snap to saying, "You're making this sound like it's my fault." It's not about finding happiness; it's about not being responsible.

And while that's an unattractive trait in anyone, it's downright disgusting in a man.
 
I bet none of these super masculine MGTOWs have ever tried living a life like their great grandfathers, whom they idolize to a ridculous degree for living in a time when women had less rights and they grew up on supermarkets like everybody else.
 
What was always telling to me was how quickly, when offered the hope that it didn't have to be that way, they would snap to saying, "You're making this sound like it's my fault." It's not about finding happiness; it's about not being responsible.

If you disagree with them or call them out, they'll call it "shaming language", even though they shame women as a group and married men on a constant basis.
 
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I bet none of these super masculine MGTOWs have ever tried living a life like their great grandfathers, whom they idolize to a ridculous degree for living in a time when women had less rights and they grew up on supermarkets like everybody else.
One of the mental images my mother told me about her time as a kid was how often her parents argued (they split apart) then when she'd walk down the street she'd hear all these couples arguing in their own homes.

Not exactly a 1950's paradise that the advertisements glorify
 
The older generations in the 1950s really genuinely wanted to respect the rules. Not today's current America on the filthy streets of Philly, SanFran, L.A., Stockton, etc. They considered a person crazy if you couldn't find work within a month.


The MGTOWs did reflect on the hardships of the past and said it was minimal compared to the Nazi rules they suffered under Feminist divorce courts. (the comments I read on Nice Guy forums) Some despised all the intense religious obligations. A few even bragged if they were born before the 20th century their wives would have bared them 12 or more kids. But the average survival rate to adulthood for pre-modern infants was less than half of all children born. One guy was aburpt to say that when John Wayne took in a Mexican maid as a second wife everybody was suspicious.

Just another thought. While the iconic image of the '50s is that divorce was rare, what about rates of separation and legal annulment? Any stats on those?
 
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“Women are human beings with complex inner lives” got downvoted and removed from a thread on MGTOW, lol.

Why are these guys so obsessed with the “basic bitch” stereotype? I’m not denying that vapid and shallow women exist, but they’re far from the majority. And are we just going to pretend that vapid and shallow men don’t exist? It’s funny, if you made a similar generalization about men or stereotyped them all as violent and angry MGTOW and incels would be the first to scream “NOT ALL MEN!!!” But yet it’s totally acceptable (and outright encouraged) to talk about women as if they’re a single monolithic entity and make untrue, sweeping generalizations about them (bonus points if bullshit “science” is attached).
 
Why are these guys so obsessed with the “basic bitch” stereotype?

Because they themselves are basic bitches. Why else?

That crack about how "women only need to bring their reproductive organs" tells you they're not looking for a partner, a person with hopes, dreams, religious inclinations, ideas, a life...just a pair of ovaries and a uterus. So naturally, since every other feature is useless for their purposes, they going to focus on the shiniest housing for those organs they can get.
 
Why are these guys so obsessed with the “basic bitch” stereotype? .
Deep down that's the type of woman they want because they are shallow af but they aren't hot or rich enough to attract one. Like all other manosphere types, nice guys, incels etc they only acknowledge the existence of high school girls, twitch thots and instagram "models".
 
"bring to the table"

Like anyone would go head over heels to offer him anything beyond a pie to the face.

There are either better men worth making an effort to start a relationship with who are a lot more appreciative or the opportunity to forgo the table altogether. Y'know, like MGTOW says they're doing

Deep down that's the type of woman they want because they are shallow af but they aren't hot or rich enough to attract one. Like all other manosphere types, nice guys, incels etc they only acknowledge the existence of high school girls, twitch thots and instagram "models".
As evidenced by the snapchat quip.

MGTOW do like to thirst complain about women being after their money yet they seem to go purely for the Instagram models who they can throw a buck to. I guess it's the closest they can get to having a desperate women beg them for money while they sit on their thrones in their mancave
 
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Because they themselves are basic bitches. Why else?

That crack about how "women only need to bring their reproductive organs" tells you they're not looking for a partner, a person with hopes, dreams, religious inclinations, ideas, a life...just a pair of ovaries and a uterus. So naturally, since every other feature is useless for their purposes, they going to focus on the shiniest housing for those organs they can get.
According to TFM in a recent video, women don't want men as partners, they want men as leaders. So I guess men want women as followers instead of as partners, too.
 
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I only know of mgtow cause my brother listens to tfm alot, and no matter how much I address how misogynistic he is, I just just get shut down and ignored. It infuriates me.
Well, he left YouTube (for the most part) because of his backup channel getting copyright struck. Your brother will probably listen to him on BitChute or DLive.

Honestly, I don't mind him talking about things other than women, but when he starts those insults and rants, that's when I have a problem with him. At least he's not like Sandman, having a grating voice and ONLY talking about how ALL women are toxic with hot girls in the thumbnails. He makes MGTOW look like it's more about fixating on and bitching about women than male freedom. How is a man free when all he does is obsess over "those terrible females"?
 
Well, he left YouTube (for the most part) because of his backup channel getting copyright struck. Your brother will probably listen to him on BitChute or DLive.

Honestly, I don't mind him talking about things other than women, but when he starts those insults and rants, that's when I have a problem with him. At least he's not like Sandman, having a grating voice and ONLY talking about how ALL women are toxic with hot girls in the thumbnails. He makes MGTOW look like it's more about fixating on and bitching about women than male freedom. How is a man free when all he does is obsess over "those terrible females"?
Yeah, focusing on people you hate alot is never healthy, it's really concerning tbh.
 
The dudes on the NiceGuy forums once discussed buying out a block of apartments to accommodate their own group. All women would be banned and they'd take their movement from there. Have political movements ever started out that way, even with today's high rents?
 
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He has claimed multiple times that he doesn't hate women, but if that's really the case, he sure does dislike them. But he thinks that MGTOW men are the only men who truly love women because they "accept them for what they are".
Which is contridictory considering what they say about women in general, and still go out of their way to purposely interact with us.
 
I remember this Canadian blog. http://no-maam.blogspot.com/ The excerpted below is from a column of ad like messages he put into his Blogspot listings with links.

Feminist "Equality" Includes The Loss of Free Speech
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If you are afraid to speak against tyranny,
then you are already a slave. To attempt
to silence a man is to pay him homage,
for it is an acknowledgement that his
arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore. -- JBR Yant

Not All Women Are Like That! (NAWALT)
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Click picture to read some
responses to this worn-out
argument throughout the ages

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"We can't expect the American People to jump
from Capitalism to Communism, but we can
assist their elected leaders in giving them small
doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to
find that they have Communism."
-- Nikita Krushchev

THE ANIMAL FARM REALITY OF "FEMINIST EQUALITY:"
"Differences [between men and women],
including the products of social inequality,
MAKE UNEQUAL TREATMENT NOT UNEQUAL
AT ALL."
-- Catharine MacKinnon, "Reflections on
Sex Equality Under Law,"
Yale Law Journal, 1991


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Don't Get Married
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"Self Made Man" - Sculpture by Bobbie Carlyle
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Man carving himself out of stone, carving
his character, carving his future.


Just Doing My Part to Fight Global Warming!
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One Moose Burps and Farts 2100kg of
Carbon Dioxide a Year... The Equivalent
of 13,000kms of Travel by Car! Let's Kill
All Them Gaia Hatin' Moose!


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Congratulations, Karl Marx!
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Karl Marx Wins The Award for
Most Deaths In History Due to
One Man


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