TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

[Silence of the Troons]

From around the 25 minutes mark

It must needs be remarked that one of the big issues here, especially once Disney started dipping into the waters of making animated films with non-European settings or characters of color, is that people of color or from the backgrounds of the people being depicted were rarely involved in the behind the scenes work. With the live-action films, there could have been space to correct this, but... Guy Ritchie's directing Aladdin, I guess. Was all of Bollywood busy? All of it?

Why does she believe that a Bollywood director would have been better than Guy Ritchie when Aladdin takes place somewhere in the Levant? Is she implying all brown people are the same? If so, that's not very woke, is it

 

[Jack Awful]

tl;dw: disney is woke for $. Spared you 30 minutes. Your welcome
If even a feminist like lindsay can't defend disney, no one can. That RBG mug in back irks me cause she never uses it.

She's at least more aware than Moviebob.
That isn't saying much, though.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

From around the 25 minutes markWhy does she believe that a Bollywood director would have been better than Guy Ritchie when Aladdin takes place somewhere in the Levant? Is she implying all brown people are the same? If so, that's not very woke, is it

DON'T MAKE A MEDIEVAL EUROPEAN FANTASY MOVE UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY FROM MEDIEVAL EUROPE AND LIVE IN A CASTLE.

Fuck off Linday. Not only do none of you apply the same standard to movies and shows about white people, you can't even get the ethnicity of the people in Aladdin right. Way to erase the Iraqi filmmakers! I mean, I'm sure there are a few.

 

[Water-T]

It's ridiculous how even Kyle Kallgren pretends that this is something new in cinema when he of all people should know better. He needs to focus on doing serious film analysis instead of trying to join the crowd and be one of the popular hip SJW kids. "Bisexual Lighting" is just a marketing campaign meant to create hype in order to sell LED light strips, nothing more.

I managed to sit through that somehow, and Kyle tries to be cutesy (GAG) by hinting that he's bi.

Sure buddy. Just because you like to sit in a corner crying while your GF gets pounded by Devonte doesn't make you queer.

Just another boring white hipster trying to add points to their Wokeness Score, just like Lindsey's friend Mara Wilson.

She's a former child star with no career that makes a living sucking up to the NPC crowd, which mean she's Wil Wheaton with a vagina....I mean, Wil Wheaton with a vagina and uterus.

 

[Higgins]

From around the 25 minutes markWhy does she believe that a Bollywood director would have been better than Guy Ritchie when Aladdin takes place somewhere in the Levant? Is she implying all brown people are the same? If so, that's not very woke, is it

Does anyone else actually give a shit who directs these live action Disney movies? The name and legacy sells itself. It's typical white liberalism. Advocating for diversity while not having diverse tastes. Lindsay couldn't name one Bollywood director but implies that it's an issue for some reason that needed to be addressed. Aladdin's a cultural classic, made a fuck ton of money, and, more importantly, isn't hated by people who it represented. Nothing 'needed' fixing.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

I managed to sit through that somehow, and Kyle tries to be cutesy (GAG) by hinting that he's bi.

The whole thing with calling it "bisexual lighting" and pretending that this is something new and before unseen is so incredibly stupid.
Just because a bunch of Youtubers in 2016 uploaded videos where they were using these LED light strips doesn't mean anything other than that they had probably received some product from some company to product-place/stealth-market in their videos.

Here, this is from 2016:

Then a year later it gets picked up by Titanic Sinclair and Poppy.
It was just a lighting company driven hype on Youtube that some gay marketeer invented a clever name for.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Does anyone else actually give a shit who directs these live action Disney movies? The name and legacy sells itself. It's typical white liberalism. Advocating for diversity while not having diverse tastes. Lindsay couldn't name one Bollywood director but implies that it's an issue for some reason that needed to be addressed. Aladdin's a cultural classic, made a fuck ton of money, and, more importantly, isn't hated by people who it represented. Nothing 'needed' fixing.

Many of the people who talk about the importance of "diversity" don't even want to watch films that were made in a language that they don't understand because of "reee I don't like reading subtitles" or something. Now, this might not be the case for Lindsay but I don't recall ever having seen her talk about non English language cinema.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Many of the people who talk about the importance of "diversity" don't even want to watch films that were made in a language that they don't understand because of "reee I don't like reading subtitles" or something. Now, this might not be the case for Lindsay but I don't recall ever having seen her talk about non English language cinema.

Your average incel weeb shitposter is more up on foreign culture than your average SJW. At least they know a little bit about it beyond that they like the sushi bar on 5th Avenue.

 

[Water-T]

The whole thing with calling it "bisexual lighting" and pretending that this is something new and before unseen is so incredibly stupid.
Just because a bunch of Youtubers in 2016 uploaded videos where they were using these LED light strips doesn't mean anything other than that they had probably received some product from some company to product-place/stealth-market in their videos.

Here, this is from 2016:

Then a year later it gets picked up by Titanic Sinclair and Poppy.
It was just a lighting company driven hype on Youtube that some gay marketeer invented a clever name for.

That's NPC culture for you - they assign some deep or hidden meaning to a product, then revolve their life around it.

Yes, there is a meaning behind lighting - aesthetics and mood. That's it. Neon pinks and blues have no deeper meaning than the similarly overused blues and oranges in action movie posters. It just catches the eye and isn't supposed to be some fucking treatise about race and gender. It's like saying the Sun stands for trans rights.

I love how Kyle calls film "racist", because black people don't photograph well on it. IT'S JUST FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE FILM! It is an inanimate object, Kyle - not the newest Grand Dragon. White people can look shit on it too with the wrong lighting and blocking. Plus there were not many non-white actors at the time, so filming with them in mind was not a priority then. It would be like getting mad that comics back then didn't print issues with blind or color blind readers in mind.

On the episode of Brows Held High: Is Jello rape culture?

 

[Doctor Placebo]

That's NPC culture for you - they assign some deep or hidden meaning to a product, then revolve their life around it.

Yes, there is a meaning behind lighting - aesthetics and mood. That's it. Neon pinks and blues have no deeper meaning than the similarly overused blues and oranges in action movie posters. It just catches the eye and isn't supposed to be some fucking treatise about race and gender. It's like saying the Sun stands for trans rights.

I love how Kyle calls film "racist", because black people don't photograph well on it. IT'S JUST FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE FILM! It is an inanimate object, Kyle - not the newest Grand Dragon. White people can look shit on it too with the wrong lighting and blocking. Plus there were not many non-white actors at the time, so filming with them in mind was not a priority then. It would be like getting mad that comics back didn't print issues with blind or colorblind readers in mind.

On the episode of Brows Held High: Is Jello rape culture?

Kyle Cowgren's content is this joke we told on Quinton's thread about an automated breadtube video title generator played completely straight:

Barney the Dinosaur | Selling Fascism to the LGBT Community

Game of Thrones | John Snow is Trans?!

Transformers | A Socialist Masterpiece

This is fun because you can label anything with this without showing any real proof but I think these would be more of Quinton's speed.

Simpsons | Showcase of Toxic Masculinity

Thomas the Tank Engine | An Anti-Capitalist Masterpeice

Care Bears | A True Socalist Paradise

 

[GhostButt]

This video was amazing, forget traditional nuclear power, lindsay was positively spinning atoms by getting SO CLOSE BUT ALMOST JUST to actual Brand Name self fucking awareness. In fact if you ignore the context it just sounds like shes reading the thread on herself: pinko obsessed with wokeness but doomed to express themselves solely through capitalistic indulgences of "bad bitch" dipped candy confections, consoling themselves that its okay to enjoy Bad Thing so longs as you bitch about it jussssst enough.

Disney and Linds would be far better off, and more palatable in general, if they would learn to enjoy their comfort food without lampshading it.

 

[friedshrimp]

TBH I can't say I disliked this video? These remakes are pretty terrible and A LOT of SJW tards think they're improvements over the original films because they're more "Progressive" so it's better to cut the illusion off.

Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King...They're fine films, pretty good ones even. They didn't need these soulless remakes or people complaining about how "problematic" they are.

 

[FriendlyNeighborhoodDaddy]

From around the 25 minutes markWhy does she believe that a Bollywood director would have been better than Guy Ritchie when Aladdin takes place somewhere in the Levant? Is she implying all brown people are the same? If so, that's not very woke, is it

And the original Aladdin story was set in China, despite the presence of a Sultan. Better spring those Chinese Muslims from their reeducation camps and hand them a camera!

 

[Namekian George Floyd]

Whine when media isn't woke enough for you but attempt to out-woke it when it makes an effort.
"I'm morally superior to this movie" is an extremely strange fad and I think no matter which way society goes, it's going to be called fucking stupid in the future.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Why does she believe that a Bollywood director would have been better than Guy Ritchie when Aladdin takes place somewhere in the Levant? Is she implying all brown people are the same? If so, that's not very woke, is it

I think it's because it's styled like a Bollywood movie, that's the main thing I heard. But yeah, it'd make more sense to get a middle eastern guy on this, someone who understands the culture. Of course then they'd have to acknowledge the 'problematic' areas of medieval Arabia instead of the white-washed and safe version we remember from when we were kids.

Many of the people who talk about the importance of "diversity" don't even want to watch films that were made in a language that they don't understand because of "reee I don't like reading subtitles" or something. Now, this might not be the case for Lindsay but I don't recall ever having seen her talk about non English language cinema.

She talked about one or two films a long time ago, she even included a Bollywood movie in her top ten movies of all time, which included Blazing Saddles. But yeah, she mainly sticks to the safe stuff because it's better for her to get more views than use her platform to promote something people may not have seen from a non-white director. Because if the darkies can get out of oppression, who can the SJWs feel better than?

 

[Puddleduck]

I love how Kyle calls film "racist", because black people don't photograph well on it. IT'S JUST FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE FILM! It is an inanimate object, Kyle - not the newest Grand Dragon. White people can look shit on it too with the wrong lighting and blocking. Plus there were not many non-white actors at the time, so filming with them in mind was not a priority then. It would be like getting mad that comics back then didn't print issues with blind or color blind readers in mind.

There's a show called Red Dwarf (think a funny British Star Trek) where the main characters are two white guys and two black guys. In the DVD commentaries they sometimes point out that the lighting was hard to get right, and if two characters were in the same shot one a white guy might look like he's illuminated while the black guy looks fine, or the white guy might look fine while the black guy is lost in shadows. It would depend on who had the important or funny line for that bit. They weren't bitching about it, it was more of an "oh look, lol" type thing, and then they explained it was tricky to get right on a multi-camera sitcom.

Many of the people who talk about the importance of "diversity" don't even want to watch films that were made in a language that they don't understand because of "reee I don't like reading subtitles" or something. Now, this might not be the case for Lindsay but I don't recall ever having seen her talk about non English language cinema.

She's said she loves Pan's Labyrinth before, which is in Spanish with subtitles. I think she's watched more films by the same director.

 

[Wabbu]

DON'T MAKE A MEDIEVAL EUROPEAN FANTASY MOVE UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY FROM MEDIEVAL EUROPE AND LIVE IN A CASTLE.

Fuck off Linday. Not only do none of you apply the same standard to movies and shows about white people, you can't even get the ethnicity of the people in Aladdin right. Way to erase the Iraqi filmmakers! I mean, I'm sure there are a few.

Nah, if it's set in Europe, no one cares about accuray and want black royalty

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Nah, if it's set in Europe, no one cares about accuray and want black royalty

"What do you mean the Queen of England can't be a black lesbian?"
"Well, the Queen of England has never been a black lesbian and this is a historical picture, so..."
"Don't you think that should change?! GOD! Historical accuracy is so racist!"

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I think it's because it's styled like a Bollywood movie, that's the main thing I heard. But yeah, it'd make more sense to get a middle eastern guy on this, someone who understands the culture. Of course then they'd have to acknowledge the 'problematic' areas of medieval Arabia instead of the white-washed and safe version we remember from when we were kids.

The issue is that Aladdin is not a Bollywood movie or a movie made to appeal to those sensibilities, but a Hollywood movie for American audiences that merely uses the genre to create a stylistic pastiche.

 

[BScCollateral]

Why does she believe that a Bollywood director would have been better than Guy Ritchie when Aladdin takes place somewhere in the Levant?

China, actually.

Seriously. I don't think I've ever seen an adaption of Aladdin get that right.

There's a show called Red Dwarf (think a funny British Star Trek) where the main characters are two white guys and two black guys. In the DVD commentaries they sometimes point out that the lighting was hard to get right, and if two characters were in the same shot one a white guy might look like he's illuminated while the black guy looks fine, or the white guy might look fine while the black guy is lost in shadows.

If you really want to see a film where they screw up the lighting with a black actor, check out the East German / Polish Der Schweigende Stern (1960) a/k/a First Spaceship to Venus. One of the spaceship crew is African and the lighting crew had no idea what they were doing.