Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Scott Benson making a joke about killing his friend. Cocksucker.


Watch as the Scumfucks at Polygon, Kotaku, BoingBoing, and woke Twitter go after Eileen. Her crime? Having the tiniest iota of a reality check that her dipshit internet friends murdered her brother. I still believe people need to go to prison for this.
 
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And yet, you let people just shit all over him without him having a chance to speak publicly about it. You let the cunt who started the witch-hunt (in an successful attempt to rob the spotlight from another victim of abuse, I might add) share her tale of woe (which has since been proven as very suspect and full of holes), watched the shitstorm it created grow, which ended in your brother killing himself; and THEN had the audacity to stand in the cunt's corner.

You were more concerned with being a good little feminist than even attempting to help your brother deal with a situation you even admit he'd been trying to grow away from.



Praytell, Eileen; exactly WHO was telling him not to defend himself publicly? Was it you? And if it wasn't, if you were so close and chatting with him days before he killed himself, why weren't you backing him on this? Were you afraid your feminist and intersectional buddies would disown you for rightfully backing up your brother, who you admit was wanting to take responsibility for what he did do wrong, and thus you shut your pie-hole in order to keep out of the line of fire?

Christ, that's as far as I could get this this wench's sad sad story of trying to play the good sibling and failing miserably. No family dynamic is perfect and I'm sure there were complexities between her and Alec that kept her from fully committing to one side or another, but goddamn is she trying to play both fields with this.
And it will be for nothing; the fact that she even said anything is going against the narrative that Zoe and her kind are writing, and by doing so, made herself a target.

They made her brother commit suicide for their game, and she still underestimates their pettiness. She needs to find real friends and soon, before they attack.
 
Please God keep her away from Tigra.

Considering her connection to Hellcat (Tigra's first identity as "The Cat" utilized Patsy's suit) and cat demons from Hell (who gave Tigra her werecat powers), I see this being very likely.

I'm so sorry, and I feel your pain. Been a fan of Greer since she joined the West Coast Avengers.
 
In fact I'm shocked you even went this far when you knew he didn't do this shit to Chelsea, and gave her money on Patreon for driving your brother to suicide with lies.

I will say in her defense, we still don't know if that's real or not. And I think the general consensus here is that was likely faked.

And if it wasn't, if you were so close and chatting with him days before he killed himself, why weren't you backing him on this?

Sounds like she was trying to help him out, but didn't realise just how much scrutiny every single word either of them said - Alec in his statement, her in her post-suicide response - would receive. Or, worse, that none of it would matter, as people would read their pre-established narratives into whatever they were presented with.

It's like Alec's sister is on the verge of understanding the whole paradigm is bs and the Zoe should be responsible for her bs but is too personally invested in social justice and getting accolades and acceptance based off that that she wants to work a more reasonable system in the current corrupt agenda that allows Zoe to kill people for book sales
It's a very wishy-washy statement, but I sympathise. I think this is what's happening, that she's been deep in the SJW/feminist circles, and she's having to deal with the toxic and poisonous side of it during a traumatic time. So she lost a brother and is having her internal framework dismantled at the same time.

If you've ever been personally involved in a news story that has spun out of control, bearing no resemblance to reality and getting to see a whole lot of uninformed strangers, acquaintances and even friends make their judgements based on a version of events that barely relates to the truth, then her position makes a bit more sense, I think. Because it's rather surreal to know the facts but to realise - or if you already knew, at least have shoved in your face - how little facts matter to so many people. And if you're in an SJW bubble, it would be even more disconcerting as you realise that all these people who you thought were fighting on the right side of things don't actually care about something as fundamental as the truth, that their empathy is a sham, that their morality is completely selfish.

If it turns out she did contribute to Zoe's Patreon afterwards, my sympathy levels will plummet. If she comes out and actively defends her again, ditto. But I can't help but feel for her, trying to navigate a very difficult situation on top of her brother's suicide. I suspect she's in the process of getting redpilled while trying to process her grief, which can't be an easy combination as she's also likely re-evaluating most of her social group. And it probably doesn't help that the Alec they describe has at least a little basis in fact, even though he was succeeding at improving himself to be a better person.

I'd love it if she'd gone scorched earth, called out Zoe and Scott Benson and the people on Twitter who dismissed Alec's suicide as a good thing. I think her statement would benefit from being more direct and specific, and fuck any backlash from her 'allies'. But I sympathise with her also just wanting the whole circus to stop and for people to leave her alone.
 
I will say in her defense, we still don't know if that's real or not. And I think the general consensus here is that was likely faked.



Sounds like she was trying to help him out, but didn't realise just how much scrutiny every single word either of them said - Alec in his statement, her in her post-suicide response - would receive. Or, worse, that none of it would matter, as people would read their pre-established narratives into whatever they were presented with.


It's a very wishy-washy statement, but I sympathise. I think this is what's happening, that she's been deep in the SJW/feminist circles, and she's having to deal with the toxic and poisonous side of it during a traumatic time. So she lost a brother and is having her internal framework dismantled at the same time.

If you've ever been personally involved in a news story that has spun out of control, bearing no resemblance to reality and getting to see a whole lot of uninformed strangers, acquaintances and even friends make their judgements based on a version of events that barely relates to the truth, then her position makes a bit more sense, I think. Because it's rather surreal to know the facts but to realise - or if you already knew, at least have shoved in your face - how little facts matter to so many people. And if you're in an SJW bubble, it would be even more disconcerting as you realise that all these people who you thought were fighting on the right side of things don't actually care about something as fundamental as the truth, that their empathy is a sham, that their morality is completely selfish.

If it turns out she did contribute to Zoe's Patreon afterwards, my sympathy levels will plummet. If she comes out and actively defends her again, ditto. But I can't help but feel for her, trying to navigate a very difficult situation on top of her brother's suicide. I suspect she's in the process of getting redpilled while trying to process her grief, which can't be an easy combination as she's also likely re-evaluating most of her social group. And it probably doesn't help that the Alec they describe has at least a little basis in fact, even though he was succeeding at improving himself to be a better person.

I'd love it if she'd gone scorched earth, called out Zoe and Scott Benson and the people on Twitter who dismissed Alec's suicide as a good thing. I think her statement would benefit from being more direct and specific, and fuck any backlash from her 'allies'. But I sympathise with her also just wanting the whole circus to stop and for people to leave her alone.
Thats another thing, the Alec they described could have done as little as not instantly believe in cloud or bread gender pronouns to be labelled an abusive person or had his workers work 7 whole hours, Its easier to accept that as the threshold of abuse when the only effect you've seen is getting gimmies and apologies its another when that threshold you prop up with screeching and lies to make normals think they did something worse turns out to kill someone. Its probably the first time her basic moral assumptions had consequences for her beyond a troll saying mean things. I don't know about her refusal to go hard being built off of fear alone though or just indoctrination I think the self serving nature of social justice is also a hard thing to let go. probably not doing it intentionally this time but I still find it hard to sympathize with someone re-examining their self serving moral delusions when that attitude got someone killed
 
Watch as the Scumfucks at Polygon, Kotaku, BoingBoing, and woke Twitter go after Eileen. Her crime? Having the tiniest iota of a reality check that her dipshit internet friends murdered her brother. I still believe people need to go to prison for this.

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Because I hope they do, this bitchbag ditched her brother for some "believe all whamen" bs that only existed because Chelsea was jealous of someone else coming forth with a meetoo story about a Dev and wanted the spotlight, not even caring whether it's true or not
Her own
Fucking
Brother
I can't imagine how sick in the head you need to be to just ditch someone so close to you for something so minor, so I hope her fellow catladies abandon her as well i hope they attack her I hope her forever internet friend Zoe pens some B's tweet about her "enabling her brother" I hope in the end when she's looking down at the option of an hero she realizes one important thing
This is how Alec felt
 
Ok but is this new iteration of Hellcat better or worse than Kate Leth's? And don't just say worse because you hate Zoe actually compare the two.

The idea that anyone cares about Hellcat or that anyone would give the slightest shit about a new character being introduced in Hellcat is hilarious and not at all some of the most blatant shilling I've seen in recent months.
 
The idea that anyone cares about Hellcat or that anyone would give the slightest shit about a new character being introduced in Hellcat is hilarious and not at all some of the most blatant shilling I've seen in recent months.
I think fags are feeling enabled with Miles Morales being Bendis' personal "fuck you" to Stan Lee & Peter Parker, and actually kind of taking off. Now that he's been in a few video games and Into the Spiderverse, everyone wants to make an OC and roll the dice on what they can squeeze them into. Zero risk, but long odds on real rewards. The fact that Chelsea can marshal folks into promoting Ghost Cat is really nauseating to me; on the one hand I wouldn't mind seeing this shit character meme'd into oblivion on the chans like Doop, on the other hand I want to see it suffocated and never see the light of day ever again.
 
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Looks like Alec's sister might have gotten a little bit of a wakeup call about how her social justice friends really act, but still, it reads like she wants to speak up but is afraid of getting canceled herself, so in reality this whole post of hers is nothing...


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"I don’t know the details of every moment of Alec’s relationships and I am not going to pretend to. I do, however, know much more than might be expected. Alec and I talked about our relationships constantly and, in the days before he died, I was one of the few people helping him write a public statement. Despite the fact that I know some of the more intimate details of these specific relationships and his planned response, I don’t think it will do anyone any good to dwell on these specifics publicly. I’m torn between wanting to stay quiet to prevent causing further harm and also wanting to represent Alec’s missing voice.

What I will say is this: Alec was a victim of abuse that he could not talk about publicly. I believed him when he told me about his experiences and I still do. I also knew Alec to be emotionally abusive. "


Nice fence sitting there, Eileen.
 
You're too hard on Alec's sister. Let's leave the patreon post out of this, as there's a good chance that one is as fake as some of the other stuff that made the rounds.

She didn't save Alec, who obviously couldn't save himself. Neither could whatever services they called, nor his girlfriend, nor anyone else. Chances are, if you let someone suicidal go to the bathroom alone, they can an hero themselves.
Could she have stood up for her brother publicly? Certainly. But consider this: Alex Kennedy was thinking about suicide, and he had no or at least a lot less mental issues than Alec. Alex did stand up for himself immediately, threatening to sue. The only reason his story gained a lot less traction was because Alec killed himself, and Zoe being Alec's accuser. Kennedys wife has been very explicit about how she, too, has been "cancelled" simply for being his wife.

While the Kennedys aren't anywhere near as radical as Alec's sister is, or now maybe was, they too had trust in doing the right thing - and you can't blame them. There is nothing wrong with the idea of wanting to help people. Eileen is just finding out she's been working for HYDRA all along. It's fence-sitting sure, but it's fence sitting from someone who went to the streets to cry in public with strangers to raise awareness for rape survivors.
I know that there are likely even more that were not posted. These stories are all true in their own ways, even if they don’t always correspond with what was true for Alec
Believe that "everyone has their truth" should be a dead giveaway how deeply entrenched into the whole identity politics she is.

Her post is vague, and yes, a hard stance against Zoe, Scott, and the industry would be what is necessary, but just because she didn't commit yet, doesn't mean she wont.
"I understand all too well why victims of abuse take to public platforms. I know firsthand how broken the legal system can be. It has failed us in so many ways and we’re scrambling to find an alternative. That said, this current system is also deeply broken, because it is not a system at all. There are no rules here, no guidelines, and no accountability. "
Eileen has both legs in the anti-camp. Whatever happened, she feels society and justice has failed her badly. But now she has to learn, that the alternative she chose killed her brother.
I have been criticized for being both not supportive enough of Alec and also not critical enough
On the one hand was everything she believed, and on the other her brother. People hated her regardless of which side she chose, before he had even offed himself, and it's plain to see that she herself is not the most steadfast individual out there.
I was surprised not to see any of that nuance and care coming from many of the game devs I once admired, not even the ones who have made games about mental health.
She was working in games herself. They were people she knew and, in a way, trusted, and they all turned on her brother - a brother she knew was at times verbally hurtful.
Take a look at Albertines accusation: It's garbage. There's nothing beyond "he made me feel bad, and I was sad". If you believe that that's a valid statement to drive a witch-hunt, that's already kinda fucked up. But Albertine was working with her and Alec.
Those hurt the most, even when they had very worthy goals, because I saw how they were perpetuating more harm and silencing even more survivors
"Worthy goals" - Eileen still thinks they were trying to do good. Her social network are these people, as shitty as they are. Those are the ones she cries out on the streets with.

TL;DR: Eileen is neck-deep in the shit of socjus, and is just finding out that maybe those people are kind of a loose cannon. Condemning her for slowly learning she might be on the wrong side is the opposite of what you want from people. By all means, she should be encouraged to explore how "The ones who pretended nothing had happened, who wrote long articles days later" AKA Scott Benson, is a fucking opportunistic bastard, who threw her brother under the bus three times before he died. She should be encouraged to see her brothers death, which was not to prove a point, as she says, as a wake up call: Zoe ruins lives and if Eileen wants to "move towards a space of mutual understanding, healing, care, and change" , she can't let people like Scott and Zoe get away with it. "When we have the power to judge, and our judgements have consequences, what do we owe one another?”
Whatever Eileen did before, whatever she believed to be right, if she can find it in herself to stand against what ruined the life of her brother, it will change the industry more than screaming into the rain ever could.
 
Thankfully this got archived.

ARCHIVE EVERYTHING. YOU CAN EVEN DO SO ON MOBILE.

For some reason there is a tweet missing in the archive that references Alec, one up from the last.
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It was the responses from people I felt close to and looked up to that hurt the most. The ones who pretended nothing had happened, who wrote long articles days later, who tried to wrap bows around the narrative to fit it into a specific box, who I thought were socially aware but realized were just very good at storytelling. Those hurt the most, even when they had very worthy goals, because I saw how they were perpetuating more harm and silencing even more survivors. We all have a right to our feelings, but when those feelings become public narratives, they gain a kind of power.

Oh hey, you know what this eerily sounds like?

You need to remember how Eron Gjoni, her Five guys ex-boyfriend, described her.
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Someone at Wired must have read Eileen's post, because the ghouls decided to repost the Laurie Penny article dancing on Alec's grave.

Where the fuck are the cops? Where the fuck are the Twitter admins? How many more people need to die??
A lot more people need to die before anyone will start caring about this cancel bullshit.
 
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