Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Is there any reason, if what Chelsea claims actually happened when she was staying with Alec, that she wouldn't have used her platform from Gamergate to burn him to the ground? This idiot was given constant favorable coverage across the media, was invited to speak at that women's UN thing, bought time in front of Congress and had that one senator fluffing her, got a book deal, supposedly had ins at the Obama White House, made a scam "anti-abuse" organization that she used to talk at tech companies and was put on Twitter's safety council,

Instead, she just whined about being laughed at and mocked online. The guy who supposedly used her a sex slave for a month? Not a word.


Chelsea is throwing Alex under the bus. claims no one told her until now, claims Alex has "stuck around" her for 5 years even though I believe she mentions having dumped him in 2015? in the book. She also claims Alex has admitted to everything, and that "collaborators" on her various scams became "worried" with how Alex was supposedly treating her and so he "has not been affiliated with anything [Chelsea is] a part of for quite some time" even though he was 'acting' in her Kickstarter scam as recently as what, 2017? before she drifted to the next grift http://archive.fo/wKEKn

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This right here is why nothing will change. These hags genuinely believe this. They just talk to each other and repeat "you were abused" and "I believe you." The word echo chamber gets thrown around a lot by gay nerds, but that's really what this is. Its a coven of post-wall bitches chanting affirming lies and platitudes at each other about how strong they are due to the entire world wanting to rape them and also the entire world already raping them.

It's internet wicca, in the sense its a goofy vengeance hobby for fat ladies who are psychologically incels but physically sluts.
 
I don't know if you think "sex pest" is new age Chapo-speak (it's not), or if you're mad that we think a bunch of creepy internet sociopaths are behaving like creepy sociopaths in real life.

It is new terminology though, its just thots saying nerds are creepy. That's literally all it is and you weirdos are acting like it's a serious thing.
Hey let's play the "I dont know" game. I don't know if you actually believe proven and documented sociopaths are telling the truth about alleging others are sociopaths who victimized them. I don't know if you actually believe "this guy flirted with me in an elevator" is a hangable offense like it is put forward by these psychos who literally invented the term "sex pest" cause "creep" was too heavy.

Also nice job using "new age" as if sex pest is healing crystals, dummy.
 
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Alex's cousin was right all along, imagine that: https://archive.fo/g1zH7#selection-5265.0-5349.376

ddiamond84 Smack-Fu Master, in training reply18 minutes ago New Poster

First cousin of Alex here with my response-

How are you still such a huge entitled asshole, Alex?

""I'd written him off two years ago," Lifschitz says, saying that they had a modern sort of family dispute. Cousin said something vile and "misogynistic" on Facebook""

My cousin accuses people of misogyny all the time. That isn't the same thing as being a misogynist. Pretty simple, right? I was posting a Facebook status about the 2012 election and my cousin arrogantly decided to wade in and call me a misogynist. He's always been comfortable in carelessly accusing anyone he has a problem with as being a misogynist or any other label he sees fit. If only people could see his old facebook posts about how he felt entitled to girls but they always chose better looking assholes over him. It was Elliot Rodger-esque, but no one knows about that stuff, and it's long gone now.

"Lifschitz unfriended and blocked. Done and done. Once GamerGate got into full swing, however, this cousin reappeared online, and he had become a fully fledged GamerGate member—a potentially dangerous one at that."

I don't give a shit about gamergate/anti gamergate. I've never used the hashtag, but again Alex says whatever he wants to say. It's one of the weirdest issues I've ever seen. But I do 100% support anyone else who sees you for the huge condescending phony prick you are.

"He allegedly began directing social media posts (from "three sockpuppet accounts") at Quinn and Lifschitz full of the kind of information only a family member might know."

Yeah, I think it's worth knowing that while Alex is grandstanding all over the internet, he's actually a slimy awful person in his real day to day life. And it's pretty infuriating that him and Zoe call themselves homeless. Have you ever seen a homeless person getting $4,000 a month? People can give money to whatever they want. But them claiming homelessness is very insulting to actual homeless people.

""He was so dumb about it," Lifschitz said.

Said the guy who has half the internet harassing him with no end in sight...

"He used his old handle from a music forum for one. He used his old OKCupid handle for another. And he started sending personal information at me about my family, when people were looking for things to attack me with and put my family in danger.""

I wasn't trying to hide anything. I think that's obvious given how easily you could find those names I used. My name was taken so I used other names. You know how you use your dumb vontendy name instead of Alex Lifschitz? Kind of like that.

"After telling some family members, Lifschitz asked them to hold off on taking any action so that he could watch what his cousin might say or do as a "case study" for how Internet harassers and trolls act. Eventually, after compiling enough screenshots and proof of identity, "We had that cathartic thing we all want to do with Internet trolls: we told his parents!""

No, Alex didn't tell my parents anything. He ran to his brother/daddy and asked them to write my parents something. Yes, irreverent tough guy Alex Lifschitz ran to his daddy, who composed an email to my parents. They don't know what the hell gamergate is, and their response was "this is really stupid and annoying, just do whatever his dad's asking for so he'll leave us alone". And then his Dad threatened to sue me or take me to moon court or something.

So I'd like to formally go on record and say that the rumors are true: my cousin Alex is a huge asshole, and is fully deserving of any criticism that has come his way over the past year. Just don't go too far or he'll tell his daddy on you and threaten to sue you/take you to moon court. Anyone who's got any other questions about Alex can email me. Happy to answer questions!

Remember to check the first page for any other embarrassing discussions of Alex Lifschitz.

It's internet wicca, in the sense its a goofy vengeance hobby for fat ladies who are psychologically incels but physically sluts.
Great way to put it imo

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Yes, yes we are Chelsea, we are having a field day. Your thread traffic has been huge this week, historically.
 
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Lmfao, TTRPG Kickstarter scam artist Elizabeth Sampat dated Alex Lifschitz? Haha, glad to see she’s getting called out for not ~listening and believing~ but nothing will happen to her because she’s close to Zoe and Anita.

Zoe’s G UT T E D beyond belief :story:

Also she now claims Alex somehow manipulated her and lies to her for years? So she knew the accusations and also didn’t ~listen and believe~

Happy 5 year anniversary of gamergate everyone! It’s been the best anniversary yet because Zoe can’t stop craving cock and attention.

Edit: Oh and the mental health shit Alex pulled on his victims was the same shit Zoe pulled on Gjoni when she cheated on him several times 🤫🤫🤫

Somehow Alex is terrible and Zoe isn’t, though.

It sure is weird how she claims that she was shocked that someone in her life was capable of doing that, then immediately slides into victim mode with, 'oh yeah, he's done that to me for several years, exactly like that, down the letter and my collaborators have witnessed it [and presumably talked to her about it], I still vouched for him whenever necessary, but how could I knooooow that he was like that'.

It's really having your cake and eating it too where she didn't know he was like that, but she's a victim of him being like that, no one told her that he was like that yet people told her he was acting that because they witnessed him doing it. Allegedly.
 
This feels like clickbait. He doesn't really bring anything new to the table. I am not sure if he even really cares about the whole pitch. This vid has a try-hard vibe.

Not to defend quinn (I think she is a lazy, exploitative bitch who sleeps around for $$), but why hasn't the dude come out and said this is all BS? There is a difference between being a shitty bf/sexual partner and acting truly abusive. Idk, if I was publicly accused of something I didn't do (or even if she exaggerated things), I would immediatly come out and set the record straight.

Quinn is def trying to cash in on things though.

It's possible you'd want to seek legal counsel of some kind before responding to these kinds of accusations. If it's untrue and you got fired because of it you'd probably want to look into defamation claims, for example, and you might even want a lawyer's advice before issuing any kind of a response.

That said, she claimed he stuck his fingers inside her and walked her around the apartment. This seems like such an absurd accusation that if this didn't happen he'd know immediately that it didn't happen and would want to say it was bullshit. It is odd he hasn't responded to that accusation at all given the bizarreness and extremity of it. Then again, Pro Jared took three months to respond to accusations against him because he wanted to get advice on how to respond and his response seems to have gone over extremely well, so who knows what Holowka is up to right now?

I wouldn't assume it's a lie just because Quinn's untrustworthy like some people here are doing. A dweeby guy who hangs out with twitter feminists and makes indie games turning out to be a mentally ill sexual deviant would hardly be unprecedented.
 
It's possible you'd want to seek legal counsel of some kind before responding to these kinds of accusations. If it's untrue and you got fired because of it you'd probably want to look into defamation claims, for example, and you might even want a lawyer's advice before issuing any kind of a response.

That said, she claimed he stuck his fingers inside her and walked her around the apartment. This seems like such an absurd accusation that if this didn't happen he'd know immediately that it didn't happen and would want to say it was bullshit. It is odd he hasn't responded to that accusation at all given the bizarreness and extremity of it. Then again, Pro Jared took three months to respond to accusations against him because he wanted to get advice on how to respond and his response seems to have gone over extremely well, so who knows what Holowka is up to right now?

I wouldn't assume it's a lie just because Quinn's untrustworthy like some people here are doing. A dweeby guy who hangs out with twitter feminists and makes indie games turning out to be a mentally ill sexual deviant would hardly be unprecedented.


You need to remember how Eron Gjoni, her Five guys ex-boyfriend, described her.
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Is anyone surprised to see anti-goober gobber ghouls trying to claw their way back into the spotlight using half-assed #metoo shit like Leigh Alexander. She must have stopped drinking for a few hours to shriek about “the men”.

A lot of her frustration stems from her being excommunicated from gaming. All of her projects were failures post gamergate and after that she disappeared like a fart in the wind.

This is my favorite response from based blue on the Lifschitz revelations.

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Is anyone surprised to see anti-goober gobber ghouls trying to claw their way back into the spotlight using half-assed #metoo shit like Leigh Alexander. She must have stopped drinking for a few hours to shriek about “the men”.

A lot of her frustration stems from her being excommunicated from gaming. All of her projects were failures post gamergate and after that she disappeared like a fart in the wind.

This is my favorite response from based blue on the Lifschitz revelations.

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"It's pretty easy to believe women when they come forward about bad shit that was done to them by men."

Especially when you stand to gain from it personally.
 
He was sporadically using that account still despite largely slinking off the 'net, notably in October 2017 when Jake Alley aka "secretgamergrrl" (one of the Crash Override Network minions) unironically wrote his own zoepost lambasting Chelsea for manipulating him and the others and fucking them over by repeatedly promising to pay them and provide other benefits for working as CON, and never giving any of them a cent. You can see by these replies that Alex had attacked Jake's character (through the safety of his locked account) and misrepresented Jake's claims about Chelsea.

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Well this is just karma then. Get fucked, Alex. How many times can these knuckle dragging soyboy retards have to see Quinn cannibalize everyone who gets to close to her before it sinks into their emasculated skulls that being near her in any capacity is a terrible idea?

Great idea Zoe. Go back underwater and stay there until no more air bubbles rise to the surface.
 
I don't know if you actually believe "this guy flirted with me in an elevator" is a hangable offense like it is put forward by these psychos who literally invented the term "sex pest" cause "creep" was too heavy.

They didn't, though, it's a quaint Britishism like hooligan or chocolate globbernaught.

A dweeby guy who hangs out with twitter feminists and makes indie games turning out to be a mentally ill sexual deviant would hardly be unprecedented.

And if Chelsea hung around for it, she fucking well chose to. He had no way to force any of it and she did it entirely for her own advantage. She is in no position to kink shame him now and he did absolutely nothing wrong even if he is a weirdo.

You need to remember how Eron Gjoni, her Five guys ex-boyfriend, described her.

Eron was a cuck who had to justify what a pathetic loser he was by pretending there was any merit at all to that cunt and that he hadn't just been totally rooked and taken by a sociopathic con artist.
 
They didn't, though, it's a quaint Britishism like hooligan or chocolate globbernaught.

That makes it worse, like when dumb bitches started saying "fuccboi" as to mean a guy who likes to have a lot of sex with women as opposed to the original meaning: a prison sissy who gets passed around for rape.
 
Fun facts, Randi. Firstly, game devs are rarely powerful enough to have women accuse them of shit for money and power, because they don't have much of either. That it keeps happening is both a sign that aggressively feminist men are, in fact, hiding something, and that the women accusing them are very bottom of the barrel.

Secondly, most of the accusations aren't of a direct casting couch nature, they're more emotional and occasional physical abuse. A lot of women retroactively regretting relationships or feeling unsafe. Now, some of these claims will be true, some won't, but not a single man accused in gaming has ever been powerful enough to demand sex or they'll ruin a woman's career in retaliation.

Thirdly, and a related point: these women mostly have attached themselves to men in gaming that they also want something from - and the accusations have come out when they haven't gotten it. Now, again, many of these men likely are abusive in some way - see above re: aggressively feminist men. But while men might extort for sex, women extort over accusations of sex. So while you'll never hear those stories (that you don't even hear about men) about women demanding sex with their power, you will hear stories of them threatening men with accusations of rape or misconduct. Or not even threatening, just doing it - making up stories after the fact, always with the same reason they couldn't come forward or tell any authorities at the time.

Fourthly, and probably most importantly, there are those stories about women, you just ignore them. Zoe was documented to be a gaslighting abuser, but you still play Overwatch with her. Sarah Nyberg was documented to be grooming her young cousin, and you defended her. When women get accused of sexual misbehaviour, it gets dismissed. So maybe, just maybe, it's not just men, it's that it's only accusations about men that you automatically believe, while automatically disbelieving the same accusations leveled at women.
 
Fun facts, Randi. Firstly, game devs are rarely powerful enough to have women accuse them of shit for money and power, because they don't have much of either. That it keeps happening is both a sign that aggressively feminist men are, in fact, hiding something, and that the women accusing them are very bottom of the barrel.

Secondly, most of the accusations aren't of a direct casting couch nature, they're more emotional and occasional physical abuse. A lot of women retroactively regretting relationships or feeling unsafe. Now, some of these claims will be true, some won't, but not a single man accused in gaming has ever been powerful enough to demand sex or they'll ruin a woman's career in retaliation.

Thirdly, and a related point: these women mostly have attached themselves to men in gaming that they also want something from - and the accusations have come out when they haven't gotten it. Now, again, many of these men likely are abusive in some way - see above re: aggressively feminist men. But while men might extort for sex, women extort over accusations of sex. So while you'll never hear those stories (that you don't even hear about men) about women demanding sex with their power, you will hear stories of them threatening men with accusations of rape or misconduct. Or not even threatening, just doing it - making up stories after the fact, always with the same reason they couldn't come forward or tell any authorities at the time.

Fourthly, and probably most importantly, there are those stories about women, you just ignore them. Zoe was documented to be a gaslighting abuser, but you still play Overwatch with her. Sarah Nyberg was documented to be grooming her young cousin, and you defended her. When women get accused of sexual misbehaviour, it gets dismissed. So maybe, just maybe, it's not just men, it's that it's only accusations about men that you automatically believe, while automatically disbelieving the same accusations leveled at women.

Goon tranny trying to fuck their underage cousin?
Right wing conspiracy theory.
Guy tries to flirt with a coworker?
This is basically how the Holocaust started.
 
The more I think about it, the more #metoo for games is a good idea.
The only men Zoe and co. can go after are male feminists, since they're most likely the only ones willing to get close enough to Zoe and co. to fuck them. Plus, the fact there has to be a #metoo movement for the feminist indie game clique proves that male feminists are perverts using feminism as a way to get close to women.
 
In all seriousness, I remember hearing people alluding to the Night in the Woods dev being a massive asshole back when that game first released. I don't remember if it ever got to #metoo level of allegations, but if something was really happening that would have been the perfect time to call him out without fear of industry retaliation or whatever, even though it doesn't sound like he's particularly influential to begin with.
Late as hell, but I wanted to chime in and say you're probably thinking of Scott Benson, not Alec Holowka. Scott Benson is the dude who looks like this, loves champagne socialism, wrote all the worst parts of NitW, and did this embarrassing shit:
He's also, presumably, now leading development of Night in the Woods in Alec's place.

Sorry for only tangentially being on topic but I felt the autistic need to clarify this.
 
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