Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Capsaicin Addict]

So why did they feel the need to invent a new wahmen character to be the secret power behind the empire when they could've just used Sly Moore (The creepy bald lady). I mean it still would've been a dumb twist but at least Disney could point at the prequels say "see she was in the background the whole time."

On the bright side, she does get her head lopped off by Vader, so maybe there's some sanity at work here. The Empire is not a place where you fucking brag about your upcoming coup, especially not to a grave robber whose defining characteristic is her untrustworthy nature and desire to save her own skin.

 

[ZMOT]

Maybe something the sheer size of a Galactic Empire just cannot be fathomed in terms we can understand? Warhammer 40k takes the novel approach of having the galaxy filled with constant internicine factional wars and disputes between different organizations that are almost independent of each other. It fractures the focus of the setting substantially, but it makes it easier to just move the action to some random planet or star system when the writers hit a wall.

imo you can leave that open, not everything needs to be explained or explicitly shown. sure, you can make up some technobabble and lore for the people into it and you should (based on at least some canon and handbook you should have and follow), but it's not necessarily needed in the film/book/whatever. ambiguity is nice to fill the open parts yourself, but with writer's that don't even know what "show, don't tell" means that hardly happens anymore.

for example the OT never talked about the empire or technicalities that much (fuck you johnson for not only making fuel a plot point but fucking it up while doing it), you could assume from the bits and pieces that shit is going down elsewhere since there's a war going on, but the important stuff is happening right here. there might be other important stuff happening, but it's a notch lower than luke vs vader, and also doesn't include luke or vader since they're here right now (so stop making everything about luke or vader).
same thing with stories where stuff happens in other parts of the globe, most people don't have a grasp how different the area can be and how fucking big our planet really is, I don't need a geography course or lengthy exposition that canberra is in australia and the next scene is set there. it's fucking far away in a different place with people that talk funny, that's it.

40k's advantage is that they have a much bigger "cast", rest is the same. people are just used more to shit constantly happening in warhammer involving different factions and people. in comparison if 40k would be a shitty cinematic universe it would be centered around ultrasmurfs or worse rowboat alone.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Its almost like a curse, since the Galactic Empire of Star Wars is based off the Galactic Empire of Asimov's works, and rather infamously Asimov threw his hands up part way through Foundation and said "I have no where the hell to take this" and just wrote two prequels instead. George Lucas then, decades later, rather infamously threw up his hands and said "I have no idea where to take this" and directed three prequels instead.

Except with Disney they're flailing their hands in the air going "halp I have no idea what I'm doing!".

Maybe something the sheer size of a Galactic Empire just cannot be fathomed in terms we can understand? Warhammer 40k takes the novel approach of having the galaxy filled with constant internicine factional wars and disputes between different organizations that are almost independent of each other. It fractures the focus of the setting substantially, but it makes it easier to just move the action to some random planet or star system when the writers hit a wall.

I mean I think I understand how the empire works:

The Emperor rules through Moffs(regional governors)...

Each regional system is controlled by a Moff, that controls their own personalized military force. That force is supplied, manned, and maintained through that region. That military force patrols a region. Moffs act like Lords in a feudal system....

At any time, military assets can be pulled to reinforce military operations.

Whatever military assets, not controlled by Moffs, are independent task forces. They carry out concentrated military operations/campaigns...

So, the empire can keep totalitarian control at all times...

 

[Creep3r]

Well, now we know how Disney plans to get their money back for the 25mil an episode wasted on Disney+.

I mean I think I understand how the empire works:

The Emperor rules through Moffs(regional governors)...

Each regional system is controlled by a Moff, that controls their own personalized military force. That military force patrols a region. Moffs act as Lords in a feudal system....

At any time, military assets can be pulled to reinforce military operations.

Whatever military assets, not controlled by Moffs, are independent task forces. They carry out concentrated military operations/campaigns...

So, the empire can keep totalitarian control at all times...

That's pretty much exactly how it operated.

During the first few years of the Empire, the galaxy saw the single largest military buildup in history. A permanent class of Moffs and regional governors was established to more efficiently govern individual sectors and regions of the Empire.

Each region of the Galaxy outside the Unknown Regions was governed by its own Moffs and Governors who enforced Palpatine's rule. This was also used as a good way to explain differences in uniforms, ranks and badges among certain imperial officers, in that differences were a sign of a different sector that said particular branch operated in.

Although this system only applies to pre-Disney but I think they still sort of follow that line of reasoning.

 

[HeyYou]

Mark Hamill on Twitter

“You misspelled "Fraud." #GoForceYourself https://t.co/ORY6eeyGgj”

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Mark, at least be cleverer than that.

 

[samuraicrack]

Mark, at least be cleverer than that.

you can only be so clever when your main target of ridicule is a preschooler

 

[Vault Boy]

Mark Hamill on Twitter

“You misspelled "Fraud." #GoForceYourself https://t.co/ORY6eeyGgj”

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I understand why he's become so bitter lately, but that's no reason to take his anger out on a little kid like that.

For Christ's sake, Mark. You're better than this, don't stoop to other asshole's levels.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I understand why he's become so bitter lately, but that's no reason to take his anger out on a little kid like that.

For Christ's sake, Mark. You're better than this, don't stoop to other asshole's levels.

yeah its some ones kid. just ignore that

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

yeah its some ones kid. just ignore that

Dude just could not resist, I guess...

The temptation of the pun was just too much...

I don't like Trump either, but it shows a lack of self awareness.

I don't think he meant to direct it at the kid. It probably wouldn't been as bad, if he just left it with the 'fraud.' But, he needed the hashtag too...

Update: he came to his senses. He clarified it wasn't aimed at the kid. Nice recover Mark...

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

At this point it's better to kill everyone involved with SW besides Mark Hamill and let the whole franchise die at once.

Even avellone and zahn?

 

[WaltherPPGAY]

Among the shilling released today for IX is an interview with one of the writers:

Pushing that definition of the Force is almost a Star Wars tradition at this point, and it's one of the things Terrio told Empire he and Abrams were most heavily interested in addressing. "‘How strong is the Force?' It sounds a little simple, but actually when you get down to it, that is a sort of Zen Koan that [Abrams and I] would really meditate on." The Argo screenwriter adds, "We would discuss, ‘What is the Force and how strong is the Force?' Those two things were really important.” Understanding the answers to these questions, he says, was equally as important as understanding who the character of Rey is and what she can do - which is ultimately the second question driving the plot of The Rise of Skywalker, at least as far as Terrio is concerned.

Really does sound like this he's teasing this bit from Herr Friendliness:

13: Rey then unleashes such a powerful Force lightning burst akin to Yoda's in TLJ which completely disables the Super Star Destroyers, locking them in place and making them unable to attack, allowing the not-Rebels to destroy them. Finn, his sis, plus Lando in the Falcon and a whole fleet of reinforcements from out of nowhere arrive and destroy the the FO and Sheev's forces. Palpatine and Rey then have their final battle. Palpy unleashes a full electric KAMEHAMEHA which Rey deflects back at him, destroying him once and for all while I puke.

I'm positively giddy for this to be real.

 

[Oaat]

Like I said, I think people are taking the financial situation of Germany, Italy, and Japan in the 1930s, and putting it in the Star Wars universe, which is not how things work. Those nations did not have full autarky, but depended on foreign nations for trade of resources and products. To finance the war they basically loaned money from whoever was offering. The problem is the Star Wars writers are doing the same faulty logic like the morons who read Wages of Destruction and think the Third Reich would have a financial crash once they were no longer at war, which is not how it would go. The goal was always autarky, at that point foreign trade, credit ratings, foreign banks, it holds no meaning.

A galactic empire has to be by definition self sufficient, it's not like they're going to depend on the Hutt Cartel for food or medicine. Why would Palpatine need to take loans? And who would he have to loan from?

Yeah now that other dimensions and galaxies are on the table I guess it's marginally less stupid to have financial powers beyond the Empire

Yeah clearly the Empire is trading with the eleven other galaxies that Taka Jamoreesa is wanted in.

Come on Pablo Hidalgo, tell us who lives in the other galaxies!

 

[Antipathy]

Among the shilling released today for IX is an interview with one of the writers:



Really does sound like this he's teasing this bit from Herr Friendliness:



I'm positively giddy for this to be real.

The fact that Rey Sue's power is ultimately determined not by skill, experience, or training, but literally how powerful the Force itself can fucking be is disgusting. I never wondered how powerful the Force was, I thought it was as powerful as the person wielding it was, nothing more, nothing less.

Rey is seriously only bound by the fucking laws of physics in Star Wars, and she'll probably cheat even those eventually, if the Slave I being dragged across time and space for her to use is any indication.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Why don't they just hyperspace ram their enemies? Get a droid, hook it up to those 'experimental shield' asspulls, and then launch it at their enemy. Once they figure out where Palpatine Macguffin Land is, just hyperspace ram it a few thousand times from far away. The formula for kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2, meaning that mass is negligible compared to velocity.

Science has absolutely NO place in the Star Wars.

 

[Antipathy]

Science has absolutely NO place in the Star Wars.

It literally doesn't matter as there is now precedent for hyperspace ramming works, and regardless of any asspulls about 'experimental shields' or whatever, it is now a feasible option for literally any militaristic scenario. Why waste money on expensive laser batteries when you can literally just hook up a cheap hyperdrive about nine hundred thousand tons of garbage and launch it right at your enemies?


The only reason people are going to land on Palpatine Macguffin Land after going on their five fetch quests is because JJ is just a fucking fraud who won't even asspull a reason that this ramming won't work.

 

[XYZpdq]

Science has absolutely NO place in the Star Wars.

yeah when Vader started pulling some really cool zero-g momentum stunts in Rebels I rapidly wait from "oh cool real physics space combat" to "Wait this is fucking Star Wars wtf".

 

[Jub-Jub]

The more pointless wokeshit fragmentation, the harder the stereotyping and the less the appeal of each individual character, and with every wymyn and pock being a face-in-hole board, only white men get actual personalities.

Some of this might have to do with a general higher percentage of white guys in western media, as a lot of them are being turned into effeminite soybois that are only present to emotionally validate the wahmen or be a shoulder to cry on. Not that a stronk wahmen, who don't need no man, would ever lower herself.

They think they have infinite money. It's also style over substance. This reminds me of the way Alex Kurtzman is handling Star Trek. He wants the franchise to have a "cinematic feel" (he doesn't give a shit about the story or what Trek is all about) so everything is shot in cinemascope (instead of 16:9), the sets are poorly lit, there's a lot of color correction and heavy constrast in terms of picture, etc. Because of the reshoots in season 2, some of the episodes ended up costing more than 15 million to make. It's insane.

Didn't they spend the entire show budget in three episodes or something like that?

Personally, I want to believe the Emperor is just trolling Vader by telling him he has to keep her around and can't kill her on a whim.

From the RLM ten facts about Vader's suit video I learned that Palpy cheaped out on the surgery to fix Vader and his suit leaving him in constant pain, annoyance, and sleep deprived state from incessant beeping noises. You're saying that wasn't enough of a dick move so he forced Dr. Aphra on him as well? What an arsehole

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

BEFORE AND AFTER: WORSHIP OF THE GREAT HORNED RAT.

Warpstone: Not even once.

I'm split on these spoilers at this point. I mean, this shit can't possibly be real, can it? Then I remember Game of Thrones.

 

[Creep3r]

I'm split on these spoilers at this point. I mean, this shit can't possibly be real, can it?

They said the same thing about the TFA, TLJ and GOT spoilers, and look where we are now. We already have the tiny Crazy Frog and C3PO's reprogramming confirmed. And according to rumors about the Empire Magazine release tomorrow which will focus on IX...

Empire Magazine: Preview of November 2019 Issue Featuring The Rise of Skywalker - Jedi News

Come inside for a preview of their November 2019 issue.

www.jedinews.co.uk

...there will be more leaks confirmed in it, including...

EXOGOL!

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I really hope there's still room for time travel and the space anus to show up in this movie. I'm very disappointed it wasn't central to the plot like the early leaks because it would've made this movie even more hilariously bad. Or the supposed ending where they win and beat the First Order by making a radio broadcast to the galaxy which reaches Kennedy and Lucas as kids in the real world. I want to see some laughably hilarious shit go down even though I know I'm in for a good one.