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The very people that are in the title. It's perfect irony.
So why'd you oblige them then?
Debate Alt-Right Retards
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Alt-right: Can 't do shit IRL, but can do shit on Internet for their beliefs
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Pro Tip: Communists have opposed Jews from day 1, thats why so many Jews were communists
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Probably because the rest wasn't worth reading lol
"Waah I have to work and earn my keep waah I can't pretend to work so gubbermint can pretend to pay me waah"
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A chair and a cat both have 4 legs. That doesn't mean they're the same thing. Third Position Anti-Capitalism =/= Communism. When Third Positionists say "Anti-Capitalism" it doesn't mean people being able to buy stuff and run businesses. It basically just means Neoliberal Crony Capitalism.
The Alt-Right is a grassroots movement started about 3-4 years ago. It has played a big role in shifting the Overton Window - that's why the Left and Conservative, Inc. are constantly trying to stamp it out. Conservatism is a movement that has had tons of money and influence for 60+ years. Yet all they've done is lose for 60+ years. Conservatives couldn't even conserve women's bathrooms.
The Losing Right or the Winning Right. Your choice.
They'll just invent boogeyman. They'll throw terms like "dogwhistle" and "stochastic" at moderates like you and all the usual suspects will scream that you're a "Nazi". They don't really need the Alt-Right.
The Alt-Right is the main target. They're doing research trying to cut the Moderate to Alt-Right pipeline and they go hardest against the Alt-Right when it comes to censorship. They're more focused on making sure you don't become us than on using us to demonize you. Why would they censor the Alt-Right financially and on social media if they wanted a boogeyman?
That's what conservatives did for 60 years. They tried fighting the Left with the Left's own premises. The Classical Liberals are doing the same thing. Truth is ingroup preference (IE: "racism") is a part of human nature. Civic Nationalism can't crush ingroup preferences just like the Communists couldn't crush greed. You have to allow ingroup preference and greed to be expressed in a way or your society will collapse.
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All ideologies have a body count. Liberal democracy has been cited from the Reign of Terror to the Iraq War as a justification for violence. We live in a Liberal Democracy so it doesn't seem so radical to us.
It's not just superficial traits. The Left's "They hate people because of skin color" line is a strawman. The underlying differences are differences in inherited behavior, political preferences, history, etc. Physical traits like skin color are simply one of many heuristics that everyday people can use to reliably see if this person belongs to this group or that group. People didn't simply decide to hate others based on skin color. Our ancestors were not fools. They knew implicitly or explicitly that mixing different peoples together leads to catastrophe. We're going to have to re-learn that lesson.
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Boomer posts aren't an argument.
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I'm not here to argue with you, I'm here to laugh at you.
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I choose the side that doesn't think stale-edgy memes are the key to starting the revolution/race war.
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Kinda ironic all you guys have been saying is tired old libertarian arguments that haven't been popular for years.
Pwning us libtards I see. Damn, I guess I should watch some more Ben Shapiro.
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Try reading instead. Specifically, Bastiat.
lol what am I saying you people don't read
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Holy fuck, it's like arguing with Sargon.
How about you read Hegel? or Baudrillard? or Kaczynski?
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I called first on "go read a book" faggot
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Pretty funny how I said Fascism and Communism are two sides of the same coin and there you are using the term bourgeoisie and defending Communism.
Look, what was so bad about America 20 years ago? I believe in the equilibrium American society had reached in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, was it perfect? Nope, but it was a multiethnic society that was functional for the most part, it's been proven it can work.
One thing that's important to remember is it's not a perfect world, be wary of anyone offering you utopian ideals that offer "perfection", the Founding Fathers guaranteed people's freedom, what they didn't guarantee was success for everyone.
Some things have happened in the 21st century to knock Americans off of our moorings and make us feel afraid and unsure, all thanks to assholes, first there were the assholes that brought down the Twin Towers, then there were the assholes that exploited that tragedy to cause a war for profit, then the assholes that gamed the economy (and there's always going to be assholes trying to find the exploits in literally any system, it's inevitable) and now ever since there have been different flavors of assholes whispering into our ears "My flavor of political extremism is the cure for all this! Just trust me! It worked so well before!"
And these assholes use fear to try to control us, fear of "the other", fear of what we don't understand, the fear caused by our own personal prejudices because we're all only human living in an extremely complicated world so easy answers appeal to us.
But fear is the mind killer, don't give into it and listen to it, anyone who's trying to control you through fear is probably lying to you and trying to sell you on something that doesn't have your own best interests at heart.
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Who said anything about starting a race war? All you do is strawman. Just curious do you think Israel should adopt Civic Nationalism or should your beliefs all be imposed on The West?
I choose the side that doesn't want to impose diversity by force.
Jared Taylor - racial diversity leads to violence
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America was solidly white about 20 years ago. Then in the late 2000's you saw articles popping up about how whites are becoming minorities and how the Left no longer needed them. Then the anti-white hivemind started feeling safer in showing its face. America was only "post-racial" because whites were a dominant majority, whites showing ingroup preference were demonized, and nonwhites were bribed with affirmative action/welfare. Whites are becoming a hated minority in a low-trust, low-IQ country. Things will fall apart. You can already see the glue becoming unstuck from the 60's to today. We're going to undergo some form of balkanization.
Our Founders knew the dangers of diversity:
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it just wants to impose nearly everything else, by force
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Horseshit theory is just the dialectic in work. The thesis of socialism and the antithesis of nationalism will have a synthesis.
The American empire managed to keep itself together through use of fear of the evil red menace (which disproves your later point). There was a ten year period in the 90s where nothing really was going on, but that was just it; it only lasted ten years. That is hardly evidence of anything "working." TPTB knew it wasn't going to last long especially with another bubble pop in the late 90s, so a new target of ZOG imperialism was created with Islamic extremism (Islam is right about women and gays). I wasn't around in the 90s, but do know that black and white culture were still fairly segregated and all white communities were still very common.
I never made an argument about things being a perfect utopia. I think there are better options than something that is basically a nightmare of cultural degeneration. I also don't care about this vague notion of "success." Who's successful in the modern society? Roid-raging sportsballers, infantile pop-stars, sexually perverted actors, and Zuckerberg. In reality, the truly successful man is one who cares for his family, one who keeps his hubris in check, one who contributes to his community. A proper society is one that provides the material conditions where this is both possible and common.
"Everyone is assholes; people need to stop being mean."
While I could pass this off as just a childish outlook on current events, I will say that the events you listed are connected. The "assholes" you mentioned are malicious elements within the United States and other western governments that use their combined power over the media, capital, and culture to exploit us and accomplish their goals.
There's nothing wrong with being afraid of legitimate threats. And this is not a fear of the unknown, that's a liberal canard. No these are legitimate observable things that I prefer not to happen. I'm reminded of this cartoon that shows two different sides of a river, where one side's institutions are all heroic while the other side's are barbaric. The reality is is that both sides think the same thing about the other. Unilateral acceptance of the other side will mean one side's destruction. Now you may think that both sides could be accepting of each other and things would be fine, but looking back on history, the likelihood of that happening is slim; it's simple game theory really.
You also need to consider that different people have their own customs. Much of the West is dominated by western culture and our concepts of law and society. We have our taboos, we have our rituals. Would you say it's fair that we impose that on the rest of the world? Would you say it's fair that the foreign peoples of the world must be ruled by an outside force that doesn't understand their practices and philosophy, let alone speak their language? If the answer is anything other than "no" you are more of a warmongerer and imperialist than me.
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America was solidly white about 20 years ago. Then in the late 2000's you saw articles popping up about how whites are becoming minorities and how the Left no longer needed them. Then the anti-white hivemind started feeling safer in showing its face. America was only "post-racial" because whites were a dominant majority, whites showing ingroup preference were demonized, and nonwhites were bribed with affirmative action/welfare. Whites are becoming a hated minority in a low-trust, low-IQ country. Things will fall apart. You can already see the glue becoming unstuck from the 60's to today. We're going to undergo some form of balkanization.
Our Founders knew the dangers of diversity:
The numbers may have changed but America was definitely not solidly white about 20 years ago, at least in my neck of the woods it wasn't.
To expound a bit on what I meant, I believe in the ideal American society had 20 years ago which was to treat people as individuals first and foremost, that's the ideal we're losing sight of and that's bad.
You weren't around in the 90s? How old are you? Well I was and I can tell you that it was a completely different vibe in American society back then, the best way I can describe it is it was much like the present day, but without all the bullshit, people as a rule were more down to Earth and tuned into reality.
The 90s was a pretty progressive, multicultural and multiethnic time, but if you went around spouting the anti-white hate that is accepted in modern mainstream woke culture all but the most insane would have looked at you like a lunatic back then, even if they were very liberal themselves.
One thing I remember about 90s culture for example is everyone was big into their cultural heritages back then, many black Americans were big into African art, African music and clothing and stuff like that and many white Americans of Scotch-Irish descent were big into Celtic type culture, think Braveheart, Riverdance, The Cranberries, Enya etc and we didn't get a million think pieces about how it was racist for white Americans to enjoy Riverdance as we would today, everyone was free to be proud of their cultural heritage regardless of what it was, even white people, provided it was something tangible, like Celtic or Irish culture and not generically "proud to be white" which what does "white" even mean? Today we have so many people who are just so damn proud to be "black" and "brown" and similarly, what does that even mean? "white" "black" "brown" mean nothing.
And danger is real, but fear is a choice, one can address real dangers in a logical, rational way without giving too much into the emotions of fear, which make one irrational and only heightens the danger.
For the record, no, I don't think the west should impose our ideals on the entire world, it's not our job to be policeman of the entire world.
I'm sorry guys, I know racism is appealing because it's something easy to understand, but the one thing I feel very confident in saying is that we live in an almost unfathomably complicated universe, we are just small fish floating in a vast sea, the sheer scope and scale of the "big picture" of true objective reality would probably be something too much for the human mind to actually comprehend.
So therefore racism just seems like something far too simple to me, it sets off my bullshit detector.
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>Not understanding that Hegel's dialectic and Marx's derived dialectic materialism are riddled with errors and are incapable of coherently addressing their detractors, i.e. Hume
>Not understanding enough about Kaczynski to realize that he was anti-Hegelian, rejecting the idea of constant progress through synthesis towards the ideal and instead believing that the vast majority of human progress has been poisonous and dysgenic
>Citing an anarchist and a post-modern philosopher known for his aggressive post-structuralist, anti-realist, anti-powerist perspective to support the idea of ethno-nationalism, which by definition requires a strong central executive body
Very high IQ play.
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Arguing race is stupid since a black/jew crossbreed would be the most superior race.
Niggers and Jews built America and nigger jews will lead America.
Niggers and Jews built America and nigger jews will lead America.
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This is accurate but the rest that came after it is pretty dumb lol. Fascists are good at seeing a broken system making people discontent and miserable but they channel that into hating and dividing the other exploited and discontent and only work to replace those elites with the same exact kind of person but they're party approved and any degeneracy they do is still excused. Like Hitler being on meth and having a scat fetish or the entire pseudoscience of "race hierarchies" and all the murder and burning down science research because they were scared of the results.