Infected Euphoric atheists

[IN 041]

Atheism lies squarely on the first peak of the Dunning-Kruger graph.

 

[lechatnoir]

I could definitely see a resurgence in liturgical Christian sects like the Roman Catholics or the Eastern Orthodox Church since there is a rising trend in Latino immigration (both legal and illegal) and Latino Catholics tend to be very devout and observant, especially when compared to their white American counterparts.

We also see similar rates of traditionalism and observance in the Orthodox Church among Greek-Americans and Slavic immigrants. And oddly enough, the Orthodox Churches are seeing more people converting to their sects. It's still a small number, but there is growth. Several people I know both online and IRL have converted, and a decade ago you didn't really hear about the Eastern Orthodox Churches in America and it was near-exclusively confined to Greek and Slavic communities.

The mainline liturgical Protestants are fucked beyond all repair right now, especially the Anglicans/Episcopalians but I could definitely see Catholicism and Orthodoxy becoming resurgent, especially with the Evangelical Protestant fundies being irrelevant already and atheism becoming increasingly tainted by the SJW's (and to a lesser extent, the fedora crowd) and once the SJW bubble bursts, I have this gut feeling that atheism will be increasingly viewed with contempt the same way that Evangelical Christianity is viewed today.

SJW's are going to taint atheism the same way that the fundies tainted Protestant Christianity.

"Third Party" sects of Christianity like the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are growing as well namely due to the fact that while they are very conservative religious sects, they aren't like the Evangelical fundies of old and the Latter-Day Saints in particular are well-known for their charity work and the help and services they offer for families.

Now this is just wild conjecture, but I'd expect atheism to go into decline in the 2020's and 2030's while the Protestants and Evangelicals continue to decline even further.

As for the religious growth post-SJW, I think we're going to keep seeing the Mormons growing and liturgical Christianity to grow as well, especially if Pope Francis either changes policies or his successor is a traditionalist.

I could also see a milder but noticeable growth in Paganism, particularly the polytheistic reconstruction sects (not just cringe-worthy Nazi Vikings, but also more genuine Germanics, as well as Celtic and Hellenic groups) although they will be nowhere near as widespread or as important as Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or even Mormonism.

Tbh, I feel bad for the atheists who just mind their own business getting lumped in with the SJW's and euphoric fedora men.

Anecdotal, I know, but I've already seen the first signs of this sort of backlash, like not inviting atheists within a social circle to funerals, etc. in the anticipation that they won't understand why people care. It's really weird seeing people be knee-jerk dismissive of atheists in the same way that people used to be of the Religious Right.

Even though I'm a filthy papist I'd rather the normie atheists not get caught up in this, but given how loud and obnoxious euphorics are I don't think it's avoidable.

 

[RedneckQuadFeed]

Dick Dawkins has a new book coming out.

Richard Dawkins on Twitter

“OUTGROWING GOD is full of interesting facts that will change the way you see the world. Available now for preorder.”

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[Positron]

"This book is packed with facts and will change the way you see the world" is hardly an effective sales-pitch.

The synopsis from Penguin Books sounds boring:

Do you believe in God? Which one? Is the Bible a “Good Book”? Is adhering to a religion necessary, or even likely, to make people good to one another? Dissecting everything from Abraham’s abuse of Isaac to the construction of a snowflake,

 

[Slimy Time]

"This book is packed with facts and will change the way you see the world" is hardly an effective sales-pitch.

The synopsis from Penguin Books sounds boring:

Sounds like every other "Christianity bad/stupid" book written. Not a great sales pitch, feels like it has (and probably has) been done to death.

If he had balls, he would do the Quran following up from his criticisms towards it last year or two that got him into "trouble"" because there is enough nonsense in there that can also be dissected and it's very topical in todays political climate. This just reads like it's going to be a rehash of old books at a time where rampant, militant Christianity like the WBC isn't at the forefront of media and debate. Talk about being a boomer and capitalizing on something 15 years too late.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

“Do you believe in God? Which one?”

Implying that the reader is unfamiliar with the fact that “God” has taken a multitude of forms throughout human history. I’m glad the very COVER of the book is letting me know the author thinks I’m a dumbshit

 

[lechatnoir]

Yeah, it sounds like yet another rehash of his usual talking points. I wonder how many people will buy it?

I haven't kept up with him too much, but Dawkins seems to be going off his rocker over the past few years. I'm sure there are more examples, but the best thing I can think of off the top of my head was when he heard about lab-grown meat and immediately jumped to growing human flesh for consumption and pre-emptively defended it by implying that only brainlets would disagree with his razor-sharp logic. Because "grow human meat in vats and feed it to humans" is a well-adjusted thought to have right off the bat, of course.

 

[Slap47]

“Do you believe in God? Which one?”

Implying that the reader is unfamiliar with the fact that “God” has taken a multitude of forms throughout human history. I’m glad the very COVER of the book is letting me know the author thinks I’m a dumbshit

The book is made for people who are already atheists who want to be smug.

 

[nanny911]

Dick Dawkins has a new book coming out.
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Richard Dawkins on Twitter

“OUTGROWING GOD is full of interesting facts that will change the way you see the world. Available now for preorder.”

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I haven't heard anything about this dude in a year and a half and I was starting to wonder if he had died. Also, his new books are looking suspiciously like those crappy print-on-demand books.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

If he had balls, he would do the Quran following up from his criticisms towards it last year or two that got him into "trouble"" because there is enough nonsense in there that can also be dissected and it's very topical in todays political climate. This just reads like it's going to be a rehash of old books at a time where rampant, militant Christianity like the WBC isn't at the forefront of media and debate. Talk about being a boomer and capitalizing on something 15 years too late.

Which really shows how insane the double standards are when it comes to stuff like the WBC, which, while unpleasant, was incredibly milquetoast by the standards of militant anything. I like how picketing funerals is "militant" when it comes to Christianity, but Muslims can drive Trucks of Peace through crowds on the reg and get the #NotAll treatment.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

Which really shows how insane the double standards are when it comes to stuff like the WBC, which, while unpleasant, was incredibly milquetoast by the standards of militant anything. I like how picketing funerals is "militant" when it comes to Christianity, but Muslims can drive Trucks of Peace through crowds on the reg and get the #NotAll treatment.

The main reason for that sort of thing is that non-liturgical Christianity is egalitarian. The New Testament is basically god, through Jesus, coming to realize life for humans is tough, and being a dick just makes it worse, so Jesus basically said “Ok, that strict shit in the Torah, that can fuck off. Just be nice to each other, be an example and try to be nice to everyone. I love you all, even the assholes, but sometimes you piss me off.” Liberals hate that because inequality is what gives them power, and all liberals want to be that elite that gets to run things.

 

[Positron]

This troon is raging at a Catholic adoption agency being given legal rights to refuse gays.

 

[Matthew216]

Yeah, it sounds like yet another rehash of his usual talking points. I wonder how many people will buy it?

I haven't kept up with him too much, but Dawkins seems to be going off his rocker over the past few years. I'm sure there are more examples, but the best thing I can think of off the top of my head was when he heard about lab-grown meat and immediately jumped to growing human flesh for consumption and pre-emptively defended it by implying that only brainlets would disagree with his razor-sharp logic. Because "grow human meat in vats and feed it to humans" is a well-adjusted thought to have right off the bat, of course.

So we might someday be able to regrow human flesh (which could lead to medical breakthroughs like growing new organs for transplant patients) and the first thing he jumps to is "now we can be cannibals?"

As a Christian, I have a lot of problems with Atheism, but I didn't expect this. I could go on an on about how God is not just real, but necessary in this life (especially when you see just how low some humans can go), but I have to go to work.

 

[Slap47]

Which really shows how insane the double standards are when it comes to stuff like the WBC, which, while unpleasant, was incredibly milquetoast by the standards of militant anything. I like how picketing funerals is "militant" when it comes to Christianity, but Muslims can drive Trucks of Peace through crowds on the reg and get the #NotAll treatment.

Dawkins does shit on Islam. Kinda why he's a banned topic on Resetera.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Dawkins does shit on Islam. Kinda why he's a banned topic on Resetera.

Christopher Hitchens did stuff on Islam before he died as well. If he were alive today, he’d probably be a pariah of the far left for it. It’s a shame more atheists don’t criticize Eastern religions or Islam that often. Many atheists tend to be very hard on Christianity, but will let the same things slide if it’s a different religion for fear of being racist. I would take atheists as a whole more seriously if they were more consistent with their criticism.

 

[Verity]

Is rationality rules any special or is it another run of the mill "muh high iq" atheist channel

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Rationality Rules aka Stephen Woodford is a fucking count of a lefty man who almost stood up for women in the whole transgender "women" athletes, i.e. men athletes who suck so they want to cheat by competing against women (see dickhead "Rachel" Rhys McKinnon), but backed down and eventually caved to the woke agenda because he doesn't have a spine and was scared it might make him less popular. He knows full well what a woman is and what a man is but somehow when it comes to this matter he's forgotten all about critical thinking and reason and it's all about not offending fuckin mentally ill people's feelings. Absolute easier like everyone at the ACA. And yes I'm very much including Matt Dillahunty because he too skirted around the issue and pretended he'd left his brain at home on the matter.

 

[Positron]

Just a heads-up that Dawkin's new book is available from the usual places.

As I expect Dawkins is on autopilot. These pages, from Chapter 5 "Do We Need God in Order to Be Good?" Shows how unoriginal he is:

I'm sure I've read about these very examples either from Bertrand Russell or Dawkin's older books. It is unfortunate that Exegesis is not more widely encouraged in Christian Churches, so modern-day believers, divorced from the context of the Bible, are unable to understand the message. The fig tree story in Matt 21:18, for example, is analysed in this article. As for the little scene at the Feast of Cana (e.g. John 2), I always read it as an amusing domestic vignette of good-natured jab. Mary is not offended, and goes on to tell the servants what, in today's language, would amount to "hey do what he says, he's the boss."

Another passage in the last chapter caught my eyes:

Dawkins is contesting Christian apologists who, pointing to the supposedly narrow permissible range of physical "constants" that would allow intelligent lives to develop in the Universe, declare that such constants must imply a Creator. This line of theist apologetic is best discarded, as Victor Stenger (another atheist and an experimental physicist) points out in his wonderful book The Fallacy of Fine Tuning, many of such constants are either set in stone by definition, or else depend on human choices.

 

[mr.moon1488]

“Do you believe in God? Which one?”

Implying that the reader is unfamiliar with the fact that “God” has taken a multitude of forms throughout human history. I’m glad the very COVER of the book is letting me know the author thinks I’m a dumbshit

I've never understood why so many atheist think the presence of a god is requisite of defining a religion. Many interpretations of Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, and Shintoism have no gods, and many smaller religions also do not contain a god.

 

[Freya]

Christopher Hitchens did stuff on Islam before he died as well. If he were alive today, he’d probably be a pariah of the far left for it. It’s a shame more atheists don’t criticize Eastern religions or Islam that often. Many atheists tend to be very hard on Christianity, but will let the same things slide if it’s a different religion for fear of being racist. I would take atheists as a whole more seriously if they were more consistent with their criticism.

Atheists appear to disproportionately criticize Christianity because they disproportionately live in historically Christian countries. Not hard to see that they will talk most about things that are relevant to them in real life.

In terms of body count, Islam and Christianity are the worst offenders. Judaism might have been if it was not limited to a small ethnic group and had a more missionary zeal. But I'd love to know which prominent atheists are defending Islam.

The European wars of religion killed tens of millions of people and left Europe in an almost constant state of war for three centuries. In the Thirty Years War, 1/5 of the population of Germany lost their lives. In comparison, Germany lost 8% of its population in WWII.

I would not know which Eastern religions atheists would criticize with the same fervor. There have been no Buddhist religious wars. They were not killing each other in the millions over minor disagreements, if at all. There are Hindu zealots, but it's not like they were amassing huge armies and going to war over the nature of Vishnu's divinity in relation to Brahman.

 

[AnOminous]

Atheists appear to disproportionately criticize Christianity because they disproportionately live in historically Christian countries. Not hard to see that they will talk most about things that are relevant to them in real life.

It's entirely reasonable that atheists usually spend more time on Christians when they have to deal with them more often but it's something else entirely when these same idiots turn around and go into a frenzy defending goatfuckers who are ten times worse than the worst fundie you'd encounter in a civilized country.