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We might as well break even and call both sides kinda shit. Cause they are.
Infected Euphoric atheists
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We might as well break even and call both sides kinda shit. Cause they are.
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Topless women are pretty cool though.
Making them preachers would certainly help church attendance
Making them preachers would certainly help church attendance
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Femen is led by a man who runs it like a cult, treats the women as his personal harem, and chooses them for leadership based on having big tits. It's hilarious this thing is considered a feminist organization.
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The Catholic Church was pro-science, or at least didn't care what scientists did, until the Reformation. The upstart Protestants made them paranoid and they saw heresy everywhere. Science got caught in the crossfire.
So if you have to blame, blame human politics, not theology.
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The question is abit of a misnomer as science and religion weren't really separated until the 18th or even 19th centuries. Many people burned as heretics should basically be counted as martyrs for science. The study of sciences like astronomy was considered part of religious study and the church even funded astronomers. However, they also did stuff like brand the heliocentric model heresy.
The money has dried up. These guys want to be heroes.
The money hungry have migrated to TDS
I'm not blocked by Ms. Silverman... weird.
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Jeez it's almost like they're doing something instead of being thoughtless cunts
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While the Catholic church would no doubt stand in the way of science back then, one can only imagine it would be stupid to think that they were entirely anti-science. They would be more of the kind that simply weren't open to new ideas at least. Compare that to some Southern Baptist Church when one were to ask both on where their churchs would stand on the idea that we evolved from apes and fish frogs.
Doing that would require one to look further into history to understand what the Church was for and against but that would require one to do more than just listen to a lesson like "Galileo's findings were seen as heresy by the Pope."
Gotta try and make some witty take while sticking to the idea of some group you don't like could be put only into one box. It's not like people can do things in response to things like recurring public shootings and the like. Then again, I can't wait to see a euphoric say that this sort of thing will somehow lead to a violent uprising from religious people.
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Do these people get their panties in a twist over common expressions that involve God in it?
"God damn it!"
"Ackstchually, God doesn't exist and believing it so makes you a sh-"
"Get me a god damn ice pack, dipshit!"
"God damn it!"
"Ackstchually, God doesn't exist and believing it so makes you a sh-"
"Get me a god damn ice pack, dipshit!"
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I'm honestly bewildered as to why militant atheism is still a thing in 2019.
As annoying as the New Atheism movement was, I could kind of understand it being a thing back in the 1990's and 2000's since the Religious Right was still very much active and influential on the national level.
But the Religious Right has been dead for the better part of a decade (save for a few Boomer incumbents in the Bible Belt) and the New Atheism movement should have died with it.
Unfortunately, it simply branched off into two distinct factions of fedora skeptics and SJW dangerhairs, and neither of the two sides got the memo that the Evangelicals are a political non-entity for the most part.
As annoying as the New Atheism movement was, I could kind of understand it being a thing back in the 1990's and 2000's since the Religious Right was still very much active and influential on the national level.
But the Religious Right has been dead for the better part of a decade (save for a few Boomer incumbents in the Bible Belt) and the New Atheism movement should have died with it.
Unfortunately, it simply branched off into two distinct factions of fedora skeptics and SJW dangerhairs, and neither of the two sides got the memo that the Evangelicals are a political non-entity for the most part.
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Evangelicals still pump out lots of kids that will grow up and be mad their parents made them wear jean skirts.
It also plays into the whole 'I'm better than you and I love being smug' aspect of both fedora skeptic and SJW dangerhair culture.
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Its because they're wussies who just type crap on the internet. They know they can't get in any trouble nowdays for saying what they do. Back then, probably not so much.
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I saw the most fedora take on miscarriage ever on the AITA subreddit recently.
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It's only been a yr. Grieving rituals like leaving out food offerings for the dead (making a plate for her dead son at the table) are timeless and universal to human cultures.
AITA for refusing to attend my dead nephew’s birthday celebration?
Background info: My sister has a 5-year-old and a 7-year-old. In January 2018, she told my family that she was pregnant with a third. She was over the moon, and she found out a few weeks later that the baby was going to be a boy. She publicly announced when she was 12 weeks pregnant, and miscarried in March at 14 weeks pregnant.
She was devastated by the loss. We arranged a full funeral, and she buried the remains in a cemetery. The headstone has the baby’s name and “birth date”, and she visits every week to put flowers on the grave. She joined a support group for parents who have lost a child.
In the last year and a half, all family events and celebrations have incorporated a celebration of her son’s “life”. We all visited the cemetery on his due date last September to commemorate him. At Thanksgiving and Christmas, she set aside a little plate of food for him at the table and we visited the grave after dinner. She posts pictures on Facebook all the time of her two living children next to the grave, and captions it “my three babies”.
His due date is coming up again this month, and she’s already organizing a celebration at the cemetery for his “first birthday”. I’ve dutifully gone along to all the other events, but this time I told her I wasn’t willing to go. I tried to be gentle, but I ended up telling her that I think she’s clinging to her grief and it isn’t healthy.
She’s incredibly angry at me. She’s accusing me of invalidating her grief, and that I never cared about her son anyway. She said that he’s her child and part of the family, and that she’s incredibly hurt that I don’t want to celebrate his life. She hasn’t spoken to me since I told her I wasn’t going.
I don’t know what to do. I care about her grief, and I get that having a miscarriage is a truly devastating event. But I also don’t want to spend the rest of my life having to pay homage to a dead “child” that was the size of an orange. I mean... at 14 weeks you don’t even need a surgical abortion, they’ll just let you take a pill and miscarry at home. I don’t want to have to go to a cemetery multiple times a year and listen to eulogies for a 14-week-old fetus for the rest of my life.
I also think this focus on the dead “sibling” has to be unhealthy for her two living children. I’m not going to tell her how to parent, but I also feel that I’m doing them a disservice by continuing to enable this kind of behavior. I don’t want every family celebration to be focused on their dead “brother”. She can do whatever she wants on the due date, but I don’t want to play a part in it.
AITA? I don’t want to hurt my sister, but I’m getting really concerned about how she’s grieving a year and a half later.
EDIT: Some people have written that I’m an asshole for what I’ve written here, particularly around how early the miscarriage was. I will not edit the post, but I hear you and will be more careful. Please be assured, though, that I have never said anything dismissive about it to my sister (unless you count the conversation I asked about as dismissive)
r/AmItheAsshole - AITA for refusing to attend my dead nephew’s birthday celebration?
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Not gonna lie, this doesn't sound like euphoric atheism, I expected the Reddit post to bring up some sperging related to religion over a miscarried fetus. All this said, grieving rituals have been a timeless thing though the idea of a first birthday for a miscarried fetus would have some asking questions.I saw the most fedora take on miscarriage ever on the AITA subreddit recently.
It's only been a yr. Grieving rituals like leaving out food offerings for the dead (making a plate for her dead son at the table) are timeless and universal to human cultures.r/AmItheAsshole - AITA for refusing to attend my dead nephew’s birthday celebration?
6,432 votes and 792 comments so far on Reddit
Edit: Disregard what I said, there were further Reddit post that goes into the post of the Reddit OP.
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The OP may not seem out-right fedora at first glance but the underlying beliefs for how she rationalizes her thoughts on fetus vs baby are and cannot resist sharing them, despite the fact that it's such a sensitive, personal and subjective issue, is. This is autistic level lack of the social understanding of the appropriate way to respond to grieving people. The comments section is a complete fedora circlejerk and OP referring to it as an orange sized fetus that never lived anyways is such an autistic way of dismissing someone's loss:
I think the OP is not being accepting of her sisters' likely religious or spiritual based belief that the baby has a soul and so still exists in that way. She shouldn't have imposed her own beliefs about when something is technically alive/a person and say she understood while admitting she has never miscarried.
I'm pro-choice and have no issue with abortion but you shouldn't take your personal views on that subject and apply it to a wanted pregnancy as if it's the same thing. The horde of redditors declaring her grief rituals unhealthy is just pathetic armchair psychology. I think she should be mourning alone because she is the one who bonded with it growing in her body but that is besides the point.
She should have declined the invitation without sharing her two cents and her dismissive attitude that is caused by letting her secular personal beliefs override respect for the feelings of the individual most affected (her sister). Any actual psychologist will tell you grief is different for everyone so it is no surprise it takes the woman who was actually pregnant longer to get over it. OP has no emotional ties to it while pregnancy changes your hormones, intensifys emotions and makes you bond with your offspring, even when it's in the womb.
81 downvotes for a reasonable opinion:
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I'll admit, I didn't see the other comments thanks to crap internet not being able to load all the other comments. This all reminds me: much as the whole ritual shit seems unhealthy to OP and some others, saying "it's not scientifically rational" makes ones claim lose some legitimacy because aside from coming off as some sort of excuse as to why it's not good (seriously, one can make a better argument beyond "it's not logical), one doesn't really know the side of events from OP's sister beyond some claims. Beyond that, it makes one also wonder: does this really consume her life that it leads to anything negative beyond how OP feels? If the sister is still able to live a normal life, she isn't really going through any hard shit beyond simply trying to honor how her miscarried fetus was to her.
Not to mention, the sister reacts to it differently because she was the one carrying it. OP can't have that same experience unless OP had gotten the same treatment and all.
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I originally agreed with OP because this isn't culturally normal behavior where I'm from so it seems weird to me, but wow, OP and the commenters are jerks.
Feelings aren't rational! That's okay!
That having been said, I can see the concern for how it will affect the living children. I'm not sure what the right answer for that is.
Feelings aren't rational! That's okay!
That having been said, I can see the concern for how it will affect the living children. I'm not sure what the right answer for that is.
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The religious right still has a extreme amount of influence though. Trump and others pander to them for a reason. They don't have one of theirs in the office and probably never will again but their issues get attention
Make it illegal to criticize/boycott Israel
Prayer + Pledge in school
Creationism/Homeschooling
Protection of Churches and MLMs
and of course you have all of the local politics.
I suspect we'll be seeing an explosion of euphoric atheism in the near future. The only sects of Christianity that are growing in the west are Mormonism, JW and 7th Day Adventism. They will implode on themselves.
I think the lack of Atheism youtube is due to euphorics just using the old videos that already exist. If anything, thats part of why they're so damn euphoric.
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Euphoric atheism only exists when there's religion to be against. In a country where most people are atheists, most atheists are normies.
I also think we'll see a resurgence in religious belief, except that instead of the 90s/2000s extreme low church non-denom model, it'll be towards highly liturgical churches, which come in both conservative and liberal flavors, aren't associated with overweight Southern Boomers, and appeals to Europe fetishists. Could be the Trad Cat parasite that lives in my brain talking there.
Sauce on the only growing Christian sects being Mormonism/JW/SDA?
I also think we'll see a resurgence in religious belief, except that instead of the 90s/2000s extreme low church non-denom model, it'll be towards highly liturgical churches, which come in both conservative and liberal flavors, aren't associated with overweight Southern Boomers, and appeals to Europe fetishists. Could be the Trad Cat parasite that lives in my brain talking there.
Sauce on the only growing Christian sects being Mormonism/JW/SDA?
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I could definitely see a resurgence in liturgical Christian sects like the Roman Catholics or the Eastern Orthodox Church since there is a rising trend in Latino immigration (both legal and illegal) and Latino Catholics tend to be very devout and observant, especially when compared to their white American counterparts.
We also see similar rates of traditionalism and observance in the Orthodox Church among Greek-Americans and Slavic immigrants. And oddly enough, the Orthodox Churches are seeing more people converting to their sects. It's still a small number, but there is growth. Several people I know both online and IRL have converted, and a decade ago you didn't really hear about the Eastern Orthodox Churches in America and it was near-exclusively confined to Greek and Slavic communities.
The mainline liturgical Protestants are fucked beyond all repair right now, especially the Anglicans/Episcopalians but I could definitely see Catholicism and Orthodoxy becoming resurgent, especially with the Evangelical Protestant fundies being irrelevant already and atheism becoming increasingly tainted by the SJW's (and to a lesser extent, the fedora crowd) and once the SJW bubble bursts, I have this gut feeling that atheism will be increasingly viewed with contempt the same way that Evangelical Christianity is viewed today.
SJW's are going to taint atheism the same way that the fundies tainted Protestant Christianity.
"Third Party" sects of Christianity like the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are growing as well namely due to the fact that while they are very conservative religious sects, they aren't like the Evangelical fundies of old and the Latter-Day Saints in particular are well-known for their charity work and the help and services they offer for families.
Now this is just wild conjecture, but I'd expect atheism to go into decline in the 2020's and 2030's while the Protestants and Evangelicals continue to decline even further.
As for the religious growth post-SJW, I think we're going to keep seeing the Mormons growing and liturgical Christianity to grow as well, especially if Pope Francis either changes policies or his successor is a traditionalist.
I could also see a milder but noticeable growth in Paganism, particularly the polytheistic reconstruction sects (not just cringe-worthy Nazi Vikings, but also more genuine Germanics, as well as Celtic and Hellenic groups) although they will be nowhere near as widespread or as important as Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or even Mormonism.
Tbh, I feel bad for the atheists who just mind their own business getting lumped in with the SJW's and euphoric fedora men.