Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

@iamdaniadriana has landed in the US. Here are some of the photos she's posted so far. She always looks like a big toddler to me.
Christ but she is ugly. Did she get some sort of horrifically botched nose job, or was she born that way? I’m trying to put my finger on what her face reminds me of, but it escapes me.
(Edit: pig snout. That’s it. She has a for-real pig snout. 🐽)

perhaps she should reconnect with her body by washing it. Then eating a better diet to eliminate the spotty skin and horrific circles under her eyes.

also that wicker peacock chair is NOT suitable for her weight. I’ve owned one and they’re fairly flimsy. Looks like she’s visibly crushing the delicate basket design.
 
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Their Insta says 'new, used and vintage' and the photos show pretty much nothing indentifiable as vintage from an era that would actually count as real vintage. Looks like it's really a new and used store that makes the odd feint at 'vintage' from time to time.

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I'm no expert so anyone who knows their shit feel free to correct me, but afaik anything for fat fucks (with a few possible exceptions for "big and tall" men) can't be a real vintage piece from before the 80s or maybe even 90s. The biggest off-the-rack clothing available was an American size 20 (which is a rough equivalent to a modern 12) - I found a chart demonstrating this but I couldn't find a similar one for men since they've always just used inches or cm.

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If you didn't fit in any of those you weren't totally shit out of luck, but besides sewing your own shit you'd have to go to places like Lane Bryant, which in the early days wasn't a "fat store" exactly but had an order form where you had to include all your measurements and they'd actually make your garment to those specifications. Evidently these places realized their target market and opened storefronts.

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Also I'm just including this because I found it funny.

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So yeah this was just a really long and autistic way to say that pretty much all the really fat chicks claiming to wear vintage clothing are actually buying cheap Chinese "vintage inspired" bullshit that they'll blow the seams out of after a few washes. Apologies if this has been discussed before.
 
Christ but she is ugly. Did she get some sort of horrifically botched nose job, or was she born that way? I’m trying to put my finger on what her face reminds me of, but it escapes me.
(Edit: pig snout. That’s it. She has a for-real pig snout. 🐽)

perhaps she should reconnect with her body by washing it. Then eating a better diet to eliminate the spotty skin and horrific circles under her eyes.

also that wicker peacock chair is NOT suitable for her weight. I’ve owned one and they’re fairly flimsy. Looks like she’s visibly crushing the delicate basket design.

I believe someone has posted her jaw surgery comparison photo before but her nose became way more pig-esque after the surgery. Generally people will get the surgery and plan to have some sort of cosmetic focused procedure after because correcting the jaw doesn't magically make the face look better. But because she was so "body-positive" and adamant that this procedure was only for her health, she declined the cosmetic surgery that would have potentially made her look less horrible.
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I find it so hilarious that even though so many of them preach about the importance of women having choice and bodily autonomy, they simultaneously shame any surgery/lifestyle change that doesn't fit into their "body positive" movement. They are so rigid in their beliefs and they enforce this stupid imaginary binary that wanting to look pretty for any reason other than self-gratification is bad and accepting all flaws even if you feel shit about them is good.

She fell into a massive depression after the surgery which isn't uncommon with people who undergo surgery that changes their face in a dramatic way. One of my girlfriends had a pretty minor nose job to get rid of a crooked humped nose and she cried for days and couldn't look at herself in the mirror for a while once the bandages came off. It looked great, however it just wasn't the face she was used to seeing her entire life.

Dani could have fixed her face to make it look more like the "before" but I guarantee she was worried about being ousted by her beloved community had she done so.
 
I'm no expert so anyone who knows their shit feel free to correct me, but afaik anything for fat fucks (with a few possible exceptions for "big and tall" men) can't be a real vintage piece from before the 80s or maybe even 90s. The biggest off-the-rack clothing available was an American size 20 (which is a rough equivalent to a modern 12) - I found a chart demonstrating this but I couldn't find a similar one for men since they've always just used inches or cm.


If you didn't fit in any of those you weren't totally shit out of luck, but besides sewing your own shit you'd have to go to places like Lane Bryant, which in the early days wasn't a "fat store" exactly but had an order form where you had to include all your measurements and they'd actually make your garment to those specifications. Evidently these places realized their target market and opened storefronts.


Also I'm just including this because I found it funny.


So yeah this was just a really long and autistic way to say that pretty much all the really fat chicks claiming to wear vintage clothing are actually buying cheap Chinese "vintage inspired" bullshit that they'll blow the seams out of after a few washes. Apologies if this has been discussed before.
Always loved vintage stuff :
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It's amazing that THIS was called chubby compared to today.
 
I suspect the model there is meant to be a flattering presentation, but there is no doubt that what qualified as fat or chubby has changed markedly since that ad which is from the 50s, I think?. Even in the 70s most people, and certainly kids were much slimmer than now. People who weren't there can look at candid street photography of crowds for an illustration. Being very seriously overweight was really something mainly seen in the middle aged or older - people who had had time to eat themselves huge. With the normal kid's lifestyle - walking everywhere before everyone had a car, walking to school twice a day, playing outside actively not inside stuck at a console, active games in the playground at breaktimes instead of hunched around phones, and with food costs being actually a far larger part of the average wage than now and thus simply being more limited, it was simply harder to get children fat than it is now in a time of totally sedentary lifestyles and very cheap, calorie-dense food everywhere. Endless snacking between meals is cheap and possible in a way it never used to be unless you had money coming out of your ears. Sweets were a once a week thing for many in the 70s.

Compare and contrast now, when I see kids waiting for the bus at 8am with a can of Coke and a chocolate bar every single morning. Maybe instead of breakfast, but just as likely on top of breakfast. They have the money, you see them queuing in the local shop in the morning and after-school they buy sweets and fizzy drinks too. Affluence plays into this, for sure.

The 70s notion of a fat kid was maybe 10lb over the top weight they should be - enough to look a little chunky. A kid that size would stand out in class given everyone else was generally skinny. Now they have big sloppy beer bellies, or look like little spherical Sumos and it's out if the question to call them fat. I saw a kid maybe 9 years old following his mum at the supermarket the other day who was so all-over fat he waddled and had several chins. You really wonder if the parent even acknowledges it as a problem.

Even in the 80s it was vanishingly rare where I lived to see the kind of fat kid who seems to make up 20% of classes now- and whose parents would have a defensive, teary meltdown if you suggested - correctly- their kids was badly overweight and they should reassess the family diet.

Also I am imagining the fuss if a company named a line 'chubbettes' now.
 
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I suspect the model there is meant to be a flattering presentation, but there is no doubt that what qualified as fat or chubby has changed markedly since that ad which is from the 50s, I think?. Even in the 70s most people, and certainly kids were much slimmer than now. People who weren't there can look at candid street photography of crowds for an illustration. Being very seriously overweight was really something mainly seen in the middle aged or older - people who had had time to eat themselves huge. With the normal kid's lifestyle - walking everywhere before everyone had a car, walking to school twice a day, playing outside actively not inside stuck at a console, active games in the playground at breaktimes instead of hunched around phones, and with food costs being actually a far larger part of the average wage than now and thus simply being more limited, it was simply harder to get children fat than it is now in a time of totally sedentary lifestyles and very cheap, calorie-dense food everywhere. Endless snacking between meals is cheap and possible in a way it never used to be unless you had money coming out of your ears. Sweets were a once a week thing for many in the 70s.

Compare and contrast now, when I see kids waiting for the bus at 8am with a can of Coke and a chocolate bar every single morning. Maybe instead of breakfast, but just as likely on top of breakfast. They have the money, you see them queuing in the local shop in the morning and after-school they buy sweets and fizzy drinks too. Affluence plays into this, for sure.

The 70s notion of a fat kid was maybe 10lb over the top weight they should be - enough to look a little chunky. A kid that size would stand out in class given everyone else was generally skinny. Now they have big sloppy beer bellies, or look like little spherical Sumos and it's out if the question to call them fat. I saw a kid maybe 9 years old following his mum at the supermarket the other day who was so all-over fat he waddled and had several chins. You really wonder if the parent even acknowledges it as a problem.

Even in the 80s it was vanishingly rare where I lived to see the kind of fat kid who seems to make up 20% of classes now- and whose parents would have a defensive, teary meltdown if you suggested - correctly- their kids was badly overweight and they should reassess the family diet.

Also I am imagining the fuss if a company named a line 'chubbettes' now.

In the Simpsons episodes where Homer tried to gain weight for disability, his goal weight was 300 lbs. His normal weight was somewhere in the mid 200’s. The most famous American fatty on TV would barely stand out nowadays. Hell, in a lot of places, he could pass for relatively fit.

 
Genetics play a role in overweight. Some people have the tendency to gain easier weight than other.

Buuut, hear me out.

It's no excuse to turn into a fucking planet and "hurr durr it's in my geeeneees!!"

It's about what you are doing with your genetic blueprint.
When you gain easy weight, than do something about it.
 
In the Simpsons episodes where Homer tried to gain weight for disability, his goal weight was 300 lbs. His normal weight was somewhere in the mid 200’s. The most famous American fatty on TV would barely stand out nowadays. Hell, in a lot of places, he could pass for relatively fit.

This reminds me of the most famous circus fat lady, Dolly Dimples, real name Celesta Geyer. She was UNDER 400lbs in her twenties! Way smaller than most of the 20-something cows we discuss here (paging ALR! paging Chantel! ) and she made her living showing off her fantastic, scary fatness to the general public during the Depression. She eventually topped out in the 500s, which at only 4' 11" tall must have been hell on her and seriously head-turning in a time when many people struggled to find enough to eat to get by.

Unlike our cows, Celesta actually eventually went on a diet - successfully - and ended up weighing a mere 112lb. It took a heart attack in her late forties to spur this, but she accomplished it, and maintained this low weight the rest of her life. Amazingly, given she'd been hugely fat since childhood due to the family's habit of eating six large meals a day. It must have been very, very difficult for her. She even wrote a book about her diet plan:

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Just think, a woman so famously fat people paid good money to see her during a time of great poverty would now barely turn a head in an average mall. There are thousands just like her, of both sexes. What a time to be alive!
 
"Vintage" just means anything older than 20 years. There were definitely fat-as-fuck sizes in 1999. Not as big as now, but still huge.
TIL all the crap I threw out in 1990 is worth something now...

I will add that vintage has this aura of old pin up shit, rockabilly clothes and cool old hip stuff from the sixties. They just didn't make classics like that in the nineties and to call that vintage just because it's old (and especially fast fashion without a pedigree) I personally say 'meh'.
 
The 70s notion of a fat kid was maybe 10lb over the top weight they should be - enough to look a little chunky. A kid that size would stand out in class given everyone else was generally skinny. Now they have big sloppy beer bellies, or look like little spherical Sumos and it's out if the question to call them fat. I saw a kid maybe 9 years old following his mum at the supermarket the other day who was so all-over fat he waddled and had several chins. You really wonder if the parent even acknowledges it as a problem.

Even in the 80s it was vanishingly rare where I lived to see the kind of fat kid who seems to make up 20% of classes now- and whose parents would have a defensive, teary meltdown if you suggested - correctly- their kids was badly overweight and they should reassess the family diet.

Yeah the difference is absolutely insane now. In the 80s you had "the fat kid" and now half the class is about his or her size and "the fat kid" for them looks like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

Same with the patient population. Back in the day we had "the fat guy" and everyone knew who he was. He had severe respiratory issues (actually unrelated to weight, it was some kind of congenital defect that I don't remember) so he was a frequent flier. His weight was in the high 300s. This dude dwarfed everyone else back then in the mid-80s. Now he'd barely stand out.

With kids it's a bit more of a problem though since parents now no longer know what a healthy weight looks like. Obviously no parent is out there memorizing height and weight charts, and they just rely on other kids to determine what's normal. Kids that are normal for their age and height typically get concern from other parents since they look like skeletons compared to Lardboy next door.
 
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