DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[KingjadVCMP]

I'd like to point out that if his employer wanted him to finish his work in a normal 40-hours per week work schedule and he struggled to do that, it's no wonder the employer got rid of him.

He probably wanted to swindle overtime so deliberately worked slower but they caught him out, telling him to step up or get das boot.

 

[Muppetmode]

I'd like to point out that if his employer wanted him to finish his work in a normal 40-hours per week work schedule and he struggled to do that, it's no wonder the employer got rid of him.

He probably wanted to swindle overtime so deliberately worked slower but they caught him out, telling him to step up or get das boot.

He said he was salaried, do salaried employees get overtime?

 

[vroomrustproof]

What the fuck could it be besides money? PSN credits don't pay bills

It better be fucking money because any sort of physical object that would get donated to him would have to sit on the porch for 3 to 5 days because he doesn't have time to pick it up since he's so busy streaming you stoopid

Edit: He's building the foundation for the next paywall which will have another shitty announcement behind, maybe during the Halloween event, idk, I expect one of his whales to ask Phil at some point if he can have a go at Khat (the wife) since he gave so much of his own money to have Phil buy gifts for her

when he started having success in street fighter is when he turned into this narcissistic ego monster

This might be it

Him getting married barely a year after meeting someone (not lived togheter with, met) was another huge ego booster. The constant reminder to his trolls or people being trolls in the chat about how he's married and the occasional pointing at his ring shows how much of a hot shit he thinks he is now because he's married to a horse while h

 

[James Smith]

He said he was salaried, do salaried employees get overtime?

Yes. Salaried just means you get paid the same amount for 1 hour as you do for 40. Obviously if you only work 1 your employer is probably going to fire you because you're not getting anything done or build a shrine to you because you're 40 times as productive as anyone else but that's the basic concept. Your employer still has to give you at least minimum wage times the hours that you work and if you work more than 40 hours in a given week your employer still has to give you owed 1.5 times your effective hourly pay per hour over 40 that you work.

Don't know if that was confusing. It probably was.

Being salaried does not mean you are exempt from minimum wage and overtime. Many people who are salaried are not. In order to be exempt from minimum wage and overtime your job has to pay over a certain amount (not a ton honestly, like $20K a year or something last I checked), you have to be paid at least your salary regardless of how much you work, and your job duties (that's the important one here) have to require a certain amount of independent decision making. If you're some fucking scrub answering the phones at AutoZone Helicopter Support, Inc. and punching makes and models into a computer to see what part number muffler rotor a customer needs for their Toyota Corolla Bell 222 you're not exempt.

From Connecticut's Department of Labor:

https://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/wgwkstnd/wage-hour/exempt.htm

Examples of exempt duties:
hiring, firing employees
scheduling employees
determining credit policies
formulating personnel policies
assessing employee performance
determining staffing levels
making company investment decisions

Examples of non-exempt duties:
driving vehicles
operating machinery
bookkeeping
repairing equipment
delivering merchandise
sweeping floors
typing, filing
telemarketing
cashier work
preparing food

IMPORTANT NOTE: in the exempt duties group, the employee needs to use discretion and judgment on a regular basis. For example, an ordinary bookkeeper may be described by an employer as one who determines credit policy when in fact, he or she merely deals with delinquent accounts in accordance with general guidelines by management. This kind of bookkeeper would not be considered exempt because he or she does not exercise discretion and judgment on a regular basis.

Further, employers may think that if an employee performs any exempt duty, however insignificant, they can be classified as exempt. It is important that in order to be classified as exempt, the employee's primary duty must be to perform tasks of an exempt nature.

 

[N0thingICanDo]

Yes. Salaried just means you get paid the same amount for 1 hour as you do for 40. Obviously if you only work 1 your employer is probably going to fire you because you're not getting anything done or build a shrine to you because you're 40 times as productive as anyone else but that's the basic concept. Your employer still has to give you at least minimum wage times the hours that you work and if you work more than 40 hours in a given week your employer still has to give you owed 1.5 times your effective hourly pay per hour over 40 that you work.

Don't know if that was confusing. It probably was.

Being salaried does not mean you are exempt from minimum wage and overtime. Many people who are salaried are not. In order to be exempt from minimum wage and overtime your job has to pay over a certain amount (not a ton honestly, like $20K a year or something last I checked), you have to be paid at least your salary regardless of how much you work, and your job duties (that's the important one here) have to require a certain amount of independent decision making. If you're some fucking scrub answering the phones at AutoZone Helicopter Support, Inc. and punching makes and models into a computer to see what part number muffler rotor a customer needs for their Toyota Corolla Bell 222 you're not exempt.

From Connecticut's Department of Labor:

https://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/wgwkstnd/wage-hour/exempt.htm

Examples of exempt duties:
hiring, firing employees
scheduling employees
determining credit policies
formulating personnel policies
assessing employee performance
determining staffing levels
making company investment decisions

Examples of non-exempt duties:
driving vehicles
operating machinery
bookkeeping
repairing equipment
delivering merchandise
sweeping floors
typing, filing
telemarketing
cashier work
preparing food

IMPORTANT NOTE: in the exempt duties group, the employee needs to use discretion and judgment on a regular basis. For example, an ordinary bookkeeper may be described by an employer as one who determines credit policy when in fact, he or she merely deals with delinquent accounts in accordance with general guidelines by management. This kind of bookkeeper would not be considered exempt because he or she does not exercise discretion and judgment on a regular basis.

Further, employers may think that if an employee performs any exempt duty, however insignificant, they can be classified as exempt. It is important that in order to be classified as exempt, the employee's primary duty must be to perform tasks of an exempt nature.

DSP reading and reacting to this

DSP thinking

DSP's conclusion

 

[Muppetmode]

Yes. Salaried just means you get paid the same amount for 1 hour as you do for 40. Obviously if you only work 1 your employer is probably going to fire you because you're not getting anything done or build a shrine to you because you're 40 times as productive as anyone else but that's the basic concept. Your employer still has to give you at least minimum wage times the hours that you work and if you work more than 40 hours in a given week your employer still has to give you owed 1.5 times your effective hourly pay per hour over 40 that you work.

Don't know if that was confusing. It probably was.

Being salaried does not mean you are exempt from minimum wage and overtime. Many people who are salaried are not. In order to be exempt from minimum wage and overtime your job has to pay over a certain amount (not a ton honestly, like $20K a year or something last I checked), you have to be paid at least your salary regardless of how much you work, and your job duties (that's the important one here) have to require a certain amount of independent decision making. If you're some fucking scrub answering the phones at AutoZone Helicopter Support, Inc. and punching makes and models into a computer to see what part number muffler rotor a customer needs for their Toyota Corolla Bell 222 you're not exempt.

From Connecticut's Department of Labor:

https://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/wgwkstnd/wage-hour/exempt.htm

Examples of exempt duties:
hiring, firing employees
scheduling employees
determining credit policies
formulating personnel policies
assessing employee performance
determining staffing levels
making company investment decisions

Examples of non-exempt duties:
driving vehicles
operating machinery
bookkeeping
repairing equipment
delivering merchandise
sweeping floors
typing, filing
telemarketing
cashier work
preparing food

IMPORTANT NOTE: in the exempt duties group, the employee needs to use discretion and judgment on a regular basis. For example, an ordinary bookkeeper may be described by an employer as one who determines credit policy when in fact, he or she merely deals with delinquent accounts in accordance with general guidelines by management. This kind of bookkeeper would not be considered exempt because he or she does not exercise discretion and judgment on a regular basis.

Further, employers may think that if an employee performs any exempt duty, however insignificant, they can be classified as exempt. It is important that in order to be classified as exempt, the employee's primary duty must be to perform tasks of an exempt nature.

So is there any benefit to being exempt?

So bigsloppymeat cheers and asks Phil if he could donate and trust that he’d mature and spend it how meat would like. Dsp says no and proceeds to say that if he gets money he immediately has to spend it on bill. I wonder his donations PayPal is the one he uses for bills and his second is his fun money @12:55

Tevin’s take @1:33:09

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

Would anyone happen to know what bank Phil uses?
If someone has an idea please let me know, because I would gladly ask them how often one can overdraft so we would have additional information that could either verify or dispute his claims.

It's not so bad now, but especially around 2007 you could overdraft as often as you'd like.

I banked with Washington Mutual back then, and they literally let me buy shit with my debit card even if there was no money in the bank. Just a "No problem here's your money and a $35 charge"

And that shit is so hard to get out of. It was getting to the point where I'd get my biweekly pay of $3200 and it would but me a few hundred in the black. I finally had to abandon that account and start a new one.

At one point I downloaded all my transactions for the year and whipped up a quick PowerShell script to look for "NSF" or "Fee" and add them together. In August, I had paid almost $5000 in nsf fees - of course the bank would let me do it forever!

 

[lavrentiyberia]

I'd like to point out that if his employer wanted him to finish his work in a normal 40-hours per week work schedule and he struggled to do that, it's no wonder the employer got rid of him.

He probably wanted to swindle overtime so deliberately worked slower but they caught him out, telling him to step up or get das boot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_boats ?

 

[Salubrious]

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"You could EASILY take whatever funds you have, buy some PSN codes and send them my way!"
"Either you do it or you don't! Don't waste my fucking time anymore, because you're gonna piss me off!"

So chill, guys. Like a polar bear's toenails.

What a humorless piece of shit.

Couldn't say something at least funny and sarcastic like "nah, just FedEx me the cash" or something.

Nobody interacts with me! Also, jokes aren't funny so stop wasting my time!

 

[Banned in 49 States]

Knowing Dave, he probably didn't write up the sales and at the end of the day tried to say he was so busy and needed to stay overtime.

Ofcourse the company probably has some way to keep track on how many incoming calls he gets to his line and called bull that he hadn't had enough time to write them up.
They don't give you overtime if you are to incompetent/lazy to do your job, they just fire you or tell you to straighten the fuck up.

 

[Meerkat Ink]

Knowing Dave, he probably didn't write up the sales and at the end of the day tried to say he was so busy and needed to stay overtime.

Ofcourse the company probably has some way to keep track on how many incoming calls he gets to his line and called bull that he hadn't had enough time to write them up.
They don't give you overtime if you are to incompetent/lazy to do your job, they just fire you or tell you to straighten the fuck up.

That's the thing with this whole work situation. I can't trust him for a second about his whole 'worked all the time, super hard and never got appreciated' since he has this narcissistic spin on every story. He's always the one who was hurt and damaged, and he did nothing wrong (thus doing everything correct).

What I know is that Dave, from the beginning of his internet presence, likes to play the system. Perhaps he was indeed trying to farm overtime and the helicopter company wasn't very happy about it. Maybe they wanted to cut off the freeloader but his daddy was working there and they felt bad about it. It's hard to see Dark (both present day and 2008 Dark) being a hard, dedicated worker. He's the embodiment of lazy, rushed, low-effort work. That's the staple of his franchise, the flag he likes to wave over his head since 2008. He's proud of that. Even his edited videos (KOgaming...1) are the epitomy of clout chasing, bandwagoning and milking a trend. They're trash on any level.

There's also the angle with his dad. If he was respected within the company, it's easy to see them hiring Dave and giving him simple work to keep him and his dad busy, tapping him on the back when he does his job and pretending he's doing something very important. Simple case of nepotism. These taps on the back got to Dave's head and formed this idea of him being the irreplaceable worker.

When chopper company was on the way down and couldn't afford to keep slackers, they showed him the door. Simple as that. That would clarify the situation with him thinking he deserved to get paid way more for what he was doing, since they gave him the illusion of being the linchpin of the whole company, a helicopter Jesus of sorts.


So, I'm sorry darksfadil, but Im not buying it. The whole 'restructured whole processes' , 'company couldn't exist a day without me' , (he actually said that), working overtime AND from home every day, even sick days. I just don't buy it.

 

[Perpetual Outrage]

Work in banking. We will absolutely let someone overdraft all the time unless they don't pay it off within 2-4 weeks. You go past that and we'll put a freeze on you going any further past what you were at, wait for the next time you pay it off and then immediately close your account.

Banks don't work like credit cards, credit cards make their money by allowing you to plunge into life altering debt and enjoy the fruits of your small interest soaked payments. Banks will not do that. We are not going to let someone overdraft by $1,000 and then fail to pay it back in 2-4 weeks and continue our exposure of us eventually eating a $1,000 charge just so we can make $35 fee. It's risk aversion and it's how the whole overdrafting system works.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

He cant PLAY his games if his ACCOUNT is suspended.

Sony would not look kindly upon this stuff. Even when he appeals and gets unbanned (because he is not at fault), thats bye bye playing ps4 for some time

He could create a new account in minutes. If your PSN account gets suspended, you can still use the console on a second account.
The "only" thing he would lose are the purchased games which isn't such a big deal to Phil since he usually doesn't replay them.
All that such a gayops would accomplish, is giving DSP more material to cry and beg about and I can guarantee you that the wheelchair symbols would shower him with pity bucks.

 

[PieceofShet]

So i heard he will name that fucking decoration! after the stupidest paypig?From now, every prep he introduces to the stream will be named after a competition is held. Goddamn. Begging will never stop.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Couple of tinfoil hat theories.

I mentioned this in I think the Kat speculation thread regarding him being overdrawn. It's possible he's not talking about his bank account, but his PayPal account. If he immediately withdraws the money, which seems like a Phil thing to do, especially given how much he checks his account, then gets a charge back or a refund or anything else, they'll take it out of his balance. Since he just unloaded his balance, he's now in the negative. Calling it overdrawn is a huge stretch, but it is perfectly in line with what Phil likes to do where he tries to justify or "debunk" his lies by clinging to semantics. I personally think he's just lying and being overdrawn is the new "I'm going to lose my house next week if you don't donate."

Here's my other tinfoil hat regarding the decorations/the stuff his mom purchased. Phil purchased it himself and just made up the story about his mom to justify his purchases so people wouldn't inevitably ask the question "if you can't afford games/bills/are constantly overdrawn etc. why are you spending 60+ on a Halloween decoration?" I mean, in 10+ years of him streaming, how often has his mom, who apparently is always buying stuff like this, sent anything for his stream? And didn't Phil just buy Halloween stuff relatively recent? I want to say it was last week's day off trip. Sure, it is Halloween time so it isn't that much of a stretch that someone else is also buying Halloween things, but it still seems very out of the blue that his mom all of a sudden took an interest in the stream. And if she is going to do something to help Phil, why send Halloween decorations of all things instead of helping him pay off his overdrawn account? It just seems more than a little suspicious that a lot of the purchases Phil has wanted to talk/rant (aka, the exercise bike) all came from his mom.

The only reason I wouldn't go even further back with the wedding is I can genuinely believe his parents would pay for the wedding since it wasn't like they had a large reception or guests or anything. Although if his mom keeps coming in out of nowhere to make these purchases for Phil there might be an argument for him having lied about marriage related expenses.

 

[Wurstbrot]

So i heard he will name that fucking decoration! after the stupidest paypig?From now, every prep he introduces to the stream will be named after a competition is held. Goddamn. Begging will never stop.

Give me back the drink rating so I can express how only alcohol can solve this disgusting situation

Here's my other tinfoil hat regarding the decorations/the stuff his mom purchased. Phil purchased it himself and just made up the story about his mom to justify his purchases so people wouldn't inevitably ask the question "if you can't afford games/bills/are constantly overdrawn etc. why are you spending 60+ on a Halloween decoration?" I mean, in 10+ years of him streaming, how often has his mom, who apparently is always buying stuff like this, sent anything for his stream?

I'd say either Khet bought it recently (it wasn't there on day one) or he purchased it on his day off. His mom want him to get a fucking job, not to die in quicksand. The more he struggles there the more stuck he gets.

On the other hand, if his family managed to create this "person of a son" then maybe they're not that smart. Except Dave Burnell, I never heard him do something wrong, I'd also say he's not very invested anyway. Every time Phil shouts moooom, but never daddy.

 

[vroomrustproof]

Phil's gonna be one of those old people that will make you wonder how he went through life with that attitude, won't he

 

[Banned in 49 States]

That's the thing with this whole work situation. I can't trust him for a second about his whole 'worked all the time, super hard and never got appreciated' since he has this narcissistic spin on every story. He's always the one who was hurt and damaged, and he did nothing wrong (thus doing everything correct).

What I know is that Dave, from the beginning of his internet presence, likes to play the system. Perhaps he was indeed trying to farm overtime and the helicopter company wasn't very happy about it. Maybe they wanted to cut off the freeloader but his daddy was working there and they felt bad about it. It's hard to see Dark (both present day and 2008 Dark) being a hard, dedicated worker. He's the embodiment of lazy, rushed, low-effort work. That's the staple of his franchise, the flag he likes to wave over his head since 2008. He's proud of that. Even his edited videos (KOgaming...1) are the epitomy of clout chasing, bandwagoning and jerking off a trend. They're trash on any level.

There's also the angle with his dad. If he was respected within the company, it's easy to see them hiring Dave and giving him simple work to keep him and his dad busy, tapping him on the back when he does his job and pretending he's doing something very important. Simple case of nepotism. These taps on the back got to Dave's head and formed this idea of him being the irreplaceable worker.

When chopper company was on the way down and couldn't afford to keep slackers, they showed him the door. Simple as that. That would clarify the situation with him thinking he deserved to get paid way more for what he was doing, since they gave him the illusion of being the linchpin of the whole company, a helicopter Jesus of sorts.


So, I'm sorry darksfadil, but Im not buying it. The whole 'restructured whole processes' , 'company couldn't exist a day without me' , (he actually said that), working overtime AND from home every day, even sick days. I just don't buy it.

If I remember from years and years ago, his dad was somewhat important within the company and when he took an early retirement they sacked phill within days.
Can't find the source or verify this so take with a grain of salt, but I remember something like that popped up back in 2012-2013.
Same rumor also stated he was extremely asocial to others who worked there.

Bottom line is he was there cause of his dad and nothing else.

 

[JamFlowMan]

So i heard he will name that fucking decoration! after the stupidest paypig?From now, every prep he introduces to the stream will be named after a competition is held. Goddamn. Begging will never stop.

What fantastic unintentional symbolism. When the decoration is no longer of use he'll toss it away without a second thought, just like his viewers.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

What fantastic unintentional symbolism. When the decoration is no longer of use he'll toss it away without a second thought, just like his viewers.

or his wife