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SpiralStars said:
I'm pretty cynical but in Vic's case the screwing over was fresh enough there was still some genuine hurt feeling to tap into.

Ty hired someone who was in front of Chupp a few times, I think Ty thought he was prepared. If the guy he hired let him down, I wouldn't blame Ty. If Ty ignored him, that's on Ty. We don't know enough but seems hiring a guy who was in front of him previously was an attempt.

I suspect Chupp is moody. Say 4 times out of 5 he's levelheaded. The fact this hearing was the week of a high profile case for Chupp that was flipped in appeal probably put Chupp in the worst mood of his professional life. This could explain why the hire didn't warn Ty. The hire may have never seen this side of Chupp.
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An Lee also practices a lot in front of the appeals court. We'll see how that goes.
MadPanda said:
Because the terminology has successfully become a negative thing. I remember years ago people thought the concept of "SJW" would never catch on because of the whole "it sounds like a positive thing", but here we are now.
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So does "DPRK" (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
 
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Discovery games on Sabat's order wouldn't surprise me, but bear in mind that this isn't some genius act. It's a very stupid one that (so far) paid off because the judge flagrantly ignored the law and processes involved. They've always been confident that TCPA would dismiss the case, but there was little to no reason to actually be confident in that, they just didn't understand this. Had or should TCPA fail, their schemes to do as much damage pre-TCPA as possible will spectacularly blow up in their faces.

Comicsgeist said:
I think that if Vic appeals he should probably do so with new representation. People can shriek 'the judge fucked us!' all they like but at the end of the day, you're always going to have to work with the judge you're assigned so you need to tailor your case accordingly.
Litterally the single smarted move KV's legal team made was the astute assessment that in Chupp they were dealing with a lazy fuck and thus offered him a powerpoint presentation instead of a case.
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The KV legal team didn't make an astute assessment of Chupp. They also misread him and were dismissed by him/treated unfairly by him. Sam is the ONLY one who we can assume may have quickly and correctly assessed Chupp and acted accordingly, but frankly I don't believe that's even true. Sam was pulling the same strategy with Vic and in his filings long before going in front of Chupp (I think only Ty's new recruit has handled Chupp before). It just so happens that his 'desperate lawyer doing his best to represent a dead case' strategy paid off, because he ended up with Tarrant County's laziest, crappiest judge.

mertyville said:
So if Vic doesn't get an appeal, can a second round still accure or start to make a seperate lawsuit (or whatever you say when you go after a new party)? I am now not sure if I actually thought they are seperate lawsuits or one big one but only related to each other as means to use information from the previous rounds for the current and future rounds. Weither those fail or not, it wouldn't affect the ability to go after the likes of Sabat or Marzgurl.

The comment I received, from what I understand, claims that because Vic failed to win, he can't go after anyone else.
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The main issue is that "round 2" wasn't likely to ever be a separate lawsuit, but added causes/targets onto the main lawsuit once they had the info. It would lower costs/possibly evade statute of limitations issues. If they drop this lawsuit entirely and dust themselves off after paying TCPA costs (instead of appealing) then they're incurring more costs than if they added it to the original, without the supporting discovery to go with it.

I would presume that Funimation being off the hook is a primary reason to appeal at this point, as even if you don't go for Sabat directly, beheading the thing that gives him power will be extremely useful. Plus, discovery can do a lot of damage to him.
 
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AnIncredibleDerp said:
An Lee also practices a lot in front of the appeals court. We'll see how that goes.

So does "DPRK" (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
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Interesting. If they brought An Lee on ahead of time specifically because he's dealt with Chupp and handles appeals as a 'just in case this doesn't work out' that boosts the likelihood that they're going to appeal. It means they'd considered this possibility strongly enough to retain someone in case one of the causes they really wanted to stick didn't. If they were willing to appeal a partial defeat, it should be reasonable to assume Vic will want to appeal a complete one all the more.

(I mean, honestly, I can't understand why someone wouldn't appeal a complete defeat that's so obviously appealable like this, but the silence on the matter is bothersome after the Chupp saga of bad plot twists)
 
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Allanon said:
Interesting. If they brought An Lee on ahead of time specifically because he's dealt with Chupp and handles appeals as a 'just in case this doesn't work out' that boosts the likelihood that they're going to appeal. It means they'd considered this possibility strongly enough to retain someone in case one of the causes they really wanted to stick didn't. If they were willing to appeal a partial defeat, it should be reasonable to assume Vic will want to appeal a complete one all the more.

(I mean, honestly, I can't understand why someone wouldn't appeal a complete defeat that's so obviously appealable like this, but the silence on the matter is bothersome after the Chupp saga of bad plot twists)
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Honestly, the silence might just be Ty keeping his cards close, which is his usual MO. Also, KV won't be able to beat dead horses if Ty doesn't announce things.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
Honestly, the silence might just be Ty keeping his cards close, which is his usual MO. Also, KV won't be able to beat dead horses if Ty doesn't announce things.
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It makes sense not to announce anything, I know. But as has been discussed before, the appeal notice is a pretty short document. Running the time low without even a confirmation that they do intend to appeal is mildly concerning. Still, I imagine we won't have to wait much longer. Likely the filing will appear in a few days. And if not, the appeal period passes in a week.

Son of Sparda 84 said:
www.youtube.com

Proof Nick Rekieta is Acting as Vic's Legal Counsel

Join the discord for updates: https://discord.gg/VGE3QBG Copy of the chatlogs shown on screen: https://pastebin.com/ukFs33u9
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Good lord that JMK douchebag made a video about this shit
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Who's concern is this but Vic's if he's also retained Nick? If Nick's not drafting any paperwork related to the lawsuit, I don't think there's any laws saying that Vic can't have lawyers who are unrelated to a given case. And Nick doesn't have to spend his every waking moment representing Vic on something just because he's been paid by Vic to give legal advice.
 
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Allanon said:
Who's concern is this but Vic's if he's also retained Nick? If Nick's not drafting any paperwork related to the lawsuit, I don't think there's any laws saying that Vic can't have lawyers who are unrelated to a given case. And Nick doesn't have to spend his every waking moment representing Vic on something just because he's been paid by Vic to give legal advice.
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I wouldn't bother asking questions about JMK. I have realized that some people lack the proper foundation to understand why they are wrong.
JMK is espousing conspiracy theories because that is the only thing that makes sense to him.
 
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Allanon said:
It makes sense not to announce anything, I know. But as has been discussed before, the appeal notice is a pretty short document. Running the time low without even a confirmation that they do intend to appeal is mildly concerning. Still, I imagine we won't have to wait much longer. Likely the filing will appear in a few days. And if not, the appeal period passes in a week.
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Well, to be fair, this has been a very sluggish, uneventful week between Vic filming a project this week and the Columbus Day weekend we're in right now, so the lack of news is hardly surprising. If I recall, I think they have till the 24th to make up their mind, so there's some time to decide.

Son of Sparda 84 said:
www.youtube.com

Proof Nick Rekieta is Acting as Vic's Legal Counsel

Join the discord for updates: https://discord.gg/VGE3QBG Copy of the chatlogs shown on screen: https://pastebin.com/ukFs33u9
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

Good lord that JMK douchebag made a video about this shit
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It's the middle of October, and these people STILL think Nick is representing Vic. My God, the stupidity of these people is truly stunning.
 
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Allanon said:
How can someone be more irrelevant, more uninformed, and less entertaining than Shane?
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Getting humiliated on stream by a troon in the first culture war/being a rando former Sargon dickrider is inherently less interesting than a shoe eating child grooming chair rapist with shady anime cons. He's an Andrew Stallings version of Shane (where his Nick REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is more annoying than Shane's assblastedness but everything else is so boring he's frustrating).
 
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