Horrorcow Kristina Paige Klein / Krissy Klein / Klein Journey of Hope - Fundie Christian mom, turns her daughters into frankendolls with repeated brain surgeries, either MbP or worst case of taking dr's advice ever

Some people seed the gofundmes. they put in their own money to make it look like a good, believable fundraiser so other people will be like, o wow, someone really believes in this, i am ok to donate.

I wondered about that! Is there an option for the donor to be anonymous to the public, but the organizers can see the detail? I was thinking if she could contact the donor, she might ask them to get a refund and donate through paypal so she didn't have to pay the GFM fee.
 
yes, you have to give contact information so that the organizer can thank you /send you a tax deductible receipt. the donor has the option to both mask their name and donation amount. it would be egregiously risky asking a donor to reverse the method of donation and redonate to paypal. but, i could set up a gofundme and donate to myself (jist switch the associated email on the paypal if you only have one PayPal),, don't show my name and do it as many times as I want. then it looks like a lot of people are donating, maybe even get it trending.
 
I know a lot about breast cancer. I’ll share so nobody gets caught up in a scam-sadly there are a LOT of BC scammers.

A woman finds a lump. Or alternatively something shows up on mammogram. Most women don’t start them until 40 unless there is a family history. (Unlike popular belief finding it early doesn’t mean progression will be prevented, even though that’s all over the net it’s not true.)

If something is suspect, an ultrasound is done, same day for lump. or within a day for mammogram. A doc has to be there for that. Not for mammogram, that’s why.

If it’s not a cyst (common) a biopsy is done. Usually a week later. There are two types. One for very tiny areas, one for a lump. Sometimes a woman will have both. (80% of biopsies are benign)

If a biopsy shows cancer, there is often a breast MRI to guage how large it may be. That’s another week or two.

Then surgery is scheduled, can be a month or more out. It can be lumpectomy for small areas or a pre-cancer. Lumps over a certain size require mastectomy.

A“partial mastectomy” can be a tiny one inch incision for a pre-cancer that can never kill you. Or it can be larger for a more dangerous type. Or mastectomy when they know it’s large, which then requires reconstruction decisions.

Histology is done during surgery. As is checking the lymph nodes to see if it’s spread. (For real cancer, not pre)

You don’t see the oncologist until one month after surgery. This is because until they have the node information and the histology they don’t know what drugs to use. There are many drugs for many types of breast cancer. Plus you have to heal. Not everybody needs chemo, a pill called tamoxifen can be prescribed.

That’s when you may see a radiation oncologist as well, if any cells hit a node.

That’s the short version. This woman obviously has no idea how it goes and is lying. It never, ever happens in a day or week.

Insurance pays for all. Her husband is a doctor, her kids had brain surgery, they have it. Co-pays aren’t that much for a family who lives like they do, tamoxifen is generic, and that’s all they’d have to pay, at most.

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I know a lot about breast cancer. I’ll share so nobody gets caught up in a scam-sadly there are a LOT of BC scammers.

A woman finds a lump. Or alternatively something shows up on mammogram. Most women don’t start them until 40 unless there is a family history. (Unlike popular belief finding it early doesn’t mean progression will be prevented, even though that’s all over the net it’s not true.)

If something is suspect, an ultrasound is done, same day for lump. or within a day for mammogram. A doc has to be there for that. Not for mammogram, that’s why.

If it’s not a cyst (common) a biopsy is done. Usually a week later. There are two types. One for very tiny areas, one for a lump. Sometimes a woman will have both. (80% of biopsies are benign)

If a biopsy shows cancer, there is often a breast MRI to guage how large it may be. That’s another week or two.

Then surgery is scheduled, can be a month or more out. It can be lumpectomy for small areas or a pre-cancer. Lumps over a certain size require mastectomy.

A“partial mastectomy” can be a tiny one inch incision for a pre-cancer that can never kill you. Or it can be larger for a more dangerous type. Or mastectomy when they know it’s large, which then requires reconstruction decisions.

Histology is done during surgery. As is checking the lymph nodes to see if it’s spread. (For real cancer, not pre)

You don’t see the oncologist until one month after surgery. This is because until they have the node information and the histology they don’t know what drugs to use. There are many drugs for many types of breast cancer. Plus you have to heal. Not everybody needs chemo, a pill called tamoxifen can be prescribed.

That’s when you may see a radiation oncologist as well, if any cells hit a node.

That’s the short version. This woman obviously has no idea how it goes and is lying. It never, ever happens in a day or week.

Insurance pays for all. Her husband is a doctor, her kids had brain surgery, they have it. Co-pays aren’t that much for a family who lives like they do, tamoxifen is generic, and that’s all they’d have to pay, at most.

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Honestly, thanks for this, and not just for scammers. It's kind of nice to know that there are all these points after "what's that lump?" where everything can be perfectly fine in the end, even if you're to the point of having surgery. It's scary when you hear statistics like 1 in 8 women will get breast cancer in a lifetime.

I was reading a thing on Mumsnet about how they have these all in one "breast clinics" where you get all the imaging and biopsies done same-day, to maximize efficient use of imaging resources and minimize the amount of time people spend terrified and waiting for results. Given all those places in your timeline where you're trying to sleep through the night while not knowing whether you're dying for a few weeks until the next steps, I can see the appeal.
 
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Yes, how offensive that doctors should be aware of the signs of Munchausen by Proxy!

You know, even if a perfectly normal and honest parent met some of that criteria, they’d probably still be more upset by the idea that there are people out there who medically abuse their own kids. It says a lot that Krissy sees that and immediately gets defensive.
 
Wow, what a read. Hopefully this thread gets out back into the lolcow threads.
I just fixed the last of what I can find wrong regarding links and archives. With the exception of the instagrams for Avee, one is now deleted, the other two I have added a screenshot to archive. At the moment, it's not allowing me to edit the text.

She's pretty quiet, but the whole saga is bizarre, horrifying and extremely questionable - especially this recent breast cancer and making a $10K gofundme for a car - you can get a used car for way less than ten grand, I don't understand asking for that much when the need is a vehicle. She ignored an offer for a free car in her group -

One way flight to WI, 2 day drive home and a hotel overnight? Probably less than $10,000.
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Someone even tagged Ellen.

Maybe they could just get the transmission fixed for less than $10,000?
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Offers for financial resources for people with cancer were ignored, a referral to a foundation was ignored. Someone called dealerships thinking they would just give this family a free car because ??? There are countless families struggling to make ends meet who have chronically ill children - children with way more severe issues and they're not having their friends call ellen and car dealerships to get them free shit.

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The latest gofundme has been up almost 2 weeks and is still at zero.


Going back through the comments on posts from the last month, there are two people who have commented with prayers recently who have left the group. One is a retired church preschool teacher. Weird, just like that rescinded donation of $1000. Makes me wonder if they're suspicious.
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Every question goes unanswered. People are asking if they've found a vehicle and no response.

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She's been posting to her new instagram recently, here's her youngest next a newer looking vehicle. Could be a visitor, but makes you wonder.
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Shit like this is way to common. Desmond is Amazing, the Hartley Hooligans, all of this child abuse stuff is disgusting. This case in particular reminds me of Gypsy Rose Blanchard, that level of insanity.

Does anyone know of the kids had type 2 paraesophageal hiatus hernia before the Nissen Fundoplication? If not, more evidence against her,
 
No clue why they got the Nissen Fundoplication.

No divorce - she was probably hurt by an online friend that didn't want to donate.

They got a car and the means to repair the other one and Krissy never told anyone in the group. The gofundme is still up citing their need for a car, Krissy is back on facebook, but hasn't posted anything.

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She privated her Instagram.

She’s also exaggerating the infection her daughter had, to no-ones surprise, I’m sure. That bacteria is is extremely common, unless one is immuno-compromised, as she’s made her daughter. Still treatable with antibiotics. It’s not going to “eat” her bones. If she’s scared to go to the doctor, it’s because she knows they are on to her.

It does seem that many people have realized what she’s doing, which is good. The fact that a woman who is married to a fucking radiologist and who lives in a house like that feels the need to ask for money to fix a car is pretty unaware, and it’s obvious that’s she’s mentally ill. I just hope no more of her kids pay the price.
 
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