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The problem is they had an idea for a show but Axanar did the idea better on a shoestring budget and was popular. But they already spent money developing the idea so they had to muddle it
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iirc that kickstarter correctly that's gotta be a pretty big shoe if that's what you're stringing it with
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Compare to other ST fan films Axanar is the big shoe, but compare to Paramount/CBS ST it is still on a shoestring budget.
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iirc "fan" is a bit of stretch for Axanar, too, like there's literally emmy award winning professionals (who could probably use a steady gig making Star Trek hint hint) on that
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Budget for Axanar? $80,000 (100k raised)
Budget for Discovery? Estimated to be between 8 and $8.5 million. Per episode.
Axanar is almost exactly 1% of the budget of a single episode of the actual Star Trek show.
(for those curious - I like numbers)
It also just goes to show how bad inflation is in Hollywood.
Budget for Discovery? Estimated to be between 8 and $8.5 million. Per episode.
Axanar is almost exactly 1% of the budget of a single episode of the actual Star Trek show.
(for those curious - I like numbers)
It also just goes to show how bad inflation is in Hollywood.
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Star Trek: Renegades does haves the rest of the surviving cast minus Shatner from TOS.
While off-topic to ST but on-topic for fan film. Granted Thomas Jane isn't exactly a top or middle tier A-list actor.
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15 million each for the first 4 episodes of season 2 after the reshoots due to the bad reception from the focus groups.
I don't know where they find all that money to throw at a show that no one watches (they keep saying that it's a huge success but they refuse to release the numbers). Netflix paid less for the rights outside of the US, they refused to pay for the Short Treks, there are 2 live-action shows that rely heavily on CGI. No one is buying the series on DVD/BR or the merchandising.
Don't get me wrong, I want Star Trek to be good but after watching the two recent Short Treks I just want the franchise to rest in peace. Kurtzman and his team are raping a corpse.
The problem with Axanar is that the the guy made a mistake. I understand what he wanted to do, it started with good intentions (have an actual studio where people could come and shoot their own fanfilm in a near-perfect condition) but it was illegal since it was going against the ToS for CBS fanfilms. That pushed CBS to make a new and more cancerous guideline for fanfilms, for example now you can't hire people who were in the cast or behind the camera of a Star Trek show.
Previous fanfilms had actors who appeared in Star Trek. There was no rule against that. Star Trek: Renegades had Waler Koenig and Tim Russ. The irony about that is STD season 3 sounds like a mashup of ST:Renegades and the Roddenberry series Andromeda.
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So who else is looking forward to the Picard series?
I'm excited about to the return of 7/9 and Hugh, very interesting duo with tons of potential!
I'm excited about to the return of 7/9 and Hugh, very interesting duo with tons of potential!
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If STD had never been made, I would be quite excited about the Picard series. That said, I'm going to give Picard a chance after a couple episodes have aired. Should it turn out to be like Enterprise Season 3, the average Voyager episode or another STD I'll drop it and never look back. From what I've seen in the trailers, I feel we're going to get something less like "Boldly go where no one has gone before" and more like "Sheriff Picard and company guns down the lawbreakers", so a TNG-era movie extended into a full TV series.
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they were already for a few years, just look how they handled stage9 (which then switched to orville. lul).
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I hate how you're probably right... Let us cling to the small hope we have left
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I wonder how they're going to "Last Jedi" the shit out of Picard. I know it won't be the TNG Picard since Stewart doesn't want to play that character again. Also what's the point of Star Trek Picard when we know that there is no Federation in the future where Mary See Burnham is.
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Christ is Hugh really in this? Are we going to find out whatever happened to the Borg in Descent? (No)
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Even if the Picard series is good, it's the Bernie Sanders problem - he's going to become immobile very soon, and it's not at all sustainable. The man is 79. Decrepit Picard is somehow worse than Fat Data to me.
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I'm rather curious, has everyone in Hollywood simply forgotten how to create something new? All I ever hear about is reboots and spins offs of old shows that were a hit in thier day.
NO one wants to watch fat Data and old Picard mumble some terrible dialog before they cut to the amaze-balls CGI bits.
What made Trek great was the writing and the characters and somehow modern Hollywood has completely missed this point.
Stop raping the corpses of long dead shows and make something new for Christ's sake. I know there are talented writers out there somewhere, go find them and get them working on something new we can enjoy.
I know I sound like a grumpy old man saying everything new sucks...but god help me everything new sucks!
NO one wants to watch fat Data and old Picard mumble some terrible dialog before they cut to the amaze-balls CGI bits.
What made Trek great was the writing and the characters and somehow modern Hollywood has completely missed this point.
Stop raping the corpses of long dead shows and make something new for Christ's sake. I know there are talented writers out there somewhere, go find them and get them working on something new we can enjoy.
I know I sound like a grumpy old man saying everything new sucks...but god help me everything new sucks!
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Ehhh... I see where you're coming from, but while I wouldn't ever trust an 80 year old commie to run my country, I don't really care if an 80 year old dude plays a shitty version of his formerly great sci-fi character, in a shitty rehash of a better show.... they really aren't even close to the same level.
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If anything, Stewart being old and immobile would be helpful since it would constrain some of their worse instincts (i.e. "let's have Picard sword-fight the Romulan empress!"). He's not decrepit enough yet as far I'm concerned.
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really? always seemed to me he really liked it (and why people liked the character) and never was that salty that it's the role people know him for. I mean he even was able to make fun about it, that usually not what people do when they hate something. but who knows what happened in the meantime.
pretty much, yeah. creating a whole series about it just screams desperation to me. "look, we brought back your favorite captain!!1".
which they wouldn't even need to in that extend when they could have just have him (and others) show up as guests in an actual good series, similar to TOS characters appeared in TNG.
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Yep. Have you seen the TNG movies? There's a reason why the character doesn't act like TNG Picard. Stewart wanted to be an action guy. He wanted a dune buggy in Nemesis, in STPicard he has a baby-killer dog instead of a horse, because Stewart is a pro pit bull activist.