TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

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Ten2Nine said:
Speaking of race, Lindsay thinks Disney has a duty to spotlight systemic racism in their animated films and portraying it as "a few bad apples" in movies such as "The Princess and the Frog" was irresponsible on their part. Once again...how do they do that, Lindsay? Unless that's the focus of their multi-million dollar animated film (you'd invest your own money into that, right Lindsay?), it's going to be pretty difficult to incorporate it into a story in a way that isn't just forced and confusing for an audience.

She was also perturbed that "Mary Poppins Returns" portrayed the bank as "good and moral and on the side of the middle class" since they apparently allowed the family in the movie to keep the house they were going to repossess. She complains about this while playing a clip of Dick Van Dyke dancing on a desk. You know...serious business. I hadn't seen the movie and was skeptical the bank just let them keep their house out of the goodness of their hearts. Turns out money deposited in the first movie earned enough interest to save the house. Maybe Dick Van Dyke would dance on his desk for you, Lindsay, if you cut back on your drinking and used that money to pay off those student loans you bitch about every chance you get.
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Zootopia is probably the best go-to example of an animated kids movie that tackled racism well and with nuance. The thing is, that was a major focus of the whole movie. You can't tackle something like racism in the way Lindsay demands as a side note in a movie, and once you've expanded it, you've completely derailed what the movie was originally supposed to be about.

The bank shit is just ridiculous. Because a bank owner or executive would never do anything nice, right Lindsay? Whether because they genuinely like the family or just because it's good PR? They're physically incapable of it because the (((capitalist pigs))) are basically not human?

A lot of Lindsay's complaints are her wanting all movies to advocate for her narrow set of morals. If a movie shows nuance on an issue she has an absolutist position on, she views it as opposition to her beliefs. Even if the movie simply doesn't address an issue in any detail (because it's focusing on other things) instead of taking the moral stance she thinks it should, she views it as opposition to her beliefs. She's more subtle about it than a lot of people, but this is still a propagandist's view of entertainment.
 
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Ignoring her weird take on racism and the portrayal of black people, (if she was a real ally wouldn't she get an "empowered black woman" to talk about the Princess and the Frog? Why is she given any authority on race as a white woman,) I thought her commentary on how shallow female empowerment is portrayed in these movies was pretty spot on.
 
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AnxiousRobin said:
Ignoring her weird take on racism and the portrayal of black people, (if she was a real ally wouldn't she get an "empowered black woman" to talk about the Princess and the Frog? Why is she given any authority on race as a white woman,) I thought her commentary on how shallow female empowerment is portrayed in these movies was pretty spot on.
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I agree with that and with the other video that was going around a while back (couldn't find it, sorry) that had a similar premise. Basically that Disney pretends to be all enlightened and about female empowerment when it's really just shallow af (like how people in the new Beauty and the Beast were scoffing at Belle reading).
 
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AnxiousRobin said:
I thought her commentary on how shallow female empowerment is portrayed in these movies was pretty spot on.
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Yeah but the problem is that everyone with a semblance of good taste and a IQ higher then 80 can guess that already. There is speaking the truth and stating the obvious. What Lindsay did was state the obvious and act as if she's smart for seeing and stating it. /co/ has been seeing and saying this shit since forever and I don't see any anon from there pretending to be enlightend unironically.
 
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Rob_Mercury said:
Yeah but the problem is that everyone with a semblance of good taste and a IQ higher then 80 can guess that already. There is speaking the truth and stating the obvious. What Lindsay did was state the obvious and act as if she's smart for seeing and stating it. /co/ has been seeing and saying this shit since forever and I don't see any anon from there pretending to be enlightend unironically.
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>The evil misogynerds, years ago: "This fake woke shit these giant entertainment companies are cranking out is a cynical marketing ploy and sucks."

>Woke people: "OMG, ban this literal online violence against women and minorities, these incel Nazis are horrible!"

>Left wing pseudo intellectuals like Lindsay, fifteen minutes ago: "This woke shit these giant entertainment companies are cranking out is somewhat disingenuous and not of very good quality."

>Woke people: "OMG, that's so insightful, I never realized! Slay Qween!"
 
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Doctor Placebo said:
>The evil misogynerds, years ago: "This fake woke shit these giant entertainment companies are cranking out is a cynical marketing ploy and sucks."

>Woke people: "OMG, ban this literal online violence against women and minorities, these incel Nazis are horrible!"

>Left wing pseudo intellectuals like Lindsay, fifteen minutes ago: "This woke shit these giant entertainment companies are cranking out is somewhat disingenuous and not of very good quality."

>Woke people: "OMG, that's so insightful, I never realized! Slay Qween!"
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Oh, these fuckers finally realized that Disney is just pandering to them and shelling out crap to keep them happy so they don't start a twitter hashtag movement against them?

They just realized this. OK then, lolz.
 
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FireGod365 said:
Most likely late on this but there's this rivalry over her and this user named Mauler:

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Lindsay Ellis on Twitter

“imagine being so insecure in your opinion you have to describe it as "objective"”
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This guy gets it.
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FireGod365 said:
Most likely late on this but there's this rivalry over her and this user named Mauler:

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Lindsay Ellis on Twitter

“imagine being so insecure in your opinion you have to describe it as "objective"”
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Here's how Mauler's reviews work:

"In The Last Jedi a smaller ship hyperspace kamikazes through a Star Destroyer and destroys it and all the surrounding ships." Objective fact.
"In Rogue One when similarly sized ships try to jump into Hyperspace and a Star Destroyer is in the way, they're shown smashing to pieces on its shields." Objective fact.
"No new technology or any other circumstances that makes these hyperspace jumps different from each other is established." Objective fact.
"These new Star Wars movies aren't consistent." Objective fact.
"This is bad." Subjective opinion because a bunch of snobby post-modern contrarian assholes don't want to admit they like something that's shoddily made, so consistency doesn't matter now.
 
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Apparently, Mauler doesn't just have a rivalry with Lindsay Ellis, he has one with a lot of other Youtubers, some of whom are associates of her:

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MauLer / YMMV - TV Tropes

Acceptable Targets: Bob Chipman, Just Write, Patrick Willems, Quinton Reviews, and video essayists of their ilk on YouTube in general are this for EFAP. H.Bomberguy isn't quite as clear cut acceptable, as MauLer considers him to be genuinely …
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FireGod365 said:
Apparently, Mauler doesn't just have a rivalry with Lindsay Ellis, he has one with a lot of other Youtubers, some of whom are associates of her:

tvtropes.org

MauLer / YMMV - TV Tropes

Acceptable Targets: Bob Chipman, Just Write, Patrick Willems, Quinton Reviews, and video essayists of their ilk on YouTube in general are this for EFAP. H.Bomberguy isn't quite as clear cut acceptable, as MauLer considers him to be genuinely …
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This is TVtropes. That they're on the list means "he mentioned them at least once."
 
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FireGod365 said:
Most likely late on this but there's this rivalry over her and this user named Mauler:

twitter.com

Lindsay Ellis on Twitter

“imagine being so insecure in your opinion you have to describe it as "objective"”
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This actually does apply to Mauler though, even though its not directed towards him.

The fucker spent an hour kvetching about all this and said he was slandered by Quinton over a fucking movie opinion.
 
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MauLer on Twitter

“Saying someone is insecure is probably not the best way to start exploring their ideas. Did someone say you were objectively wrong about your opinion on something? It's okay Lindsay, we all appreciate you, whether you fuck up your references or not! https://t.co/c36mMYvXHo”
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here's his response to it

his fan made subbreddit has a little compilation post of related material.
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r/MauLer - Lindsay Ellis and MauLer on Twitter

53 votes and 30 comments so far on Reddit
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BScCollateral said:
China, actually.

Seriously. I don't think I've ever seen an adaption of Aladdin get that right.



If you really want to see a film where they screw up the lighting with a black actor, check out the East German / Polish Der Schweigende Stern (1960) a/k/a First Spaceship to Venus. One of the spaceship crew is African and the lighting crew had no idea what they were doing.
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The original Aladdin story was written and added to the One Thousand and One nings centuries it was wrriten (1001 Nights 1400s or 1500s and Aladdin 1800s ) after by a french man who in his travels found a copy of the Adventures Of Sinbad the Sailor and those were in their first version not even called that andmight have differences with the later version(s) since their were centuries older and date from the Abbassid Caliphate[/QUOTE]
 
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