Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

But remember: we win by protecting what we love, not by destroying what we hate.

I almost was able to forget that pseudo intellectual cancer. Its the type of line that sounds okay at first but the more you think about it, the more it sounds like they dont know what they are talking about. It reminds me of Jared Joker saying that stupid like "
desire becomes surrender surrender becomes power", it SOUNDS smart...until it doesnt.
 
Remember the shill defences against Luke being pathetic and so out of character in TLJ ?
"You just want your fantasy headcannon Luke, and not a flawed human being".

Like it was too much of a leap to expect that Luke has become a powerful Jedi master with 30 years of meditation and training.
Well that's how this movie ends. With "fantasy headcannon" Rey. She's the most powerful Jedi ever. She defeated the emperor and the empire. She has built herself a super special yellow lightsaber. The movie ends at the same place we were at the end of the ROTJ, only we know Rey isn't a screw up like Luke. All of this was her story, she will now bring back the Jedi the right way.

This shouldn't really make me so mad but man it does. This trilogy is completely pointless it only served to shit on the old characters while making a full circle. Lucasfilm were seething that Luke was an iconic character boys can look up too, so they took a shit in the last movie and in this movie his legacy / saga is completely taken over by superior Rey
 
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Yeah but here is the problem with rebellious "tear it all down" attitude...does anyone remember the ending of The Graduate? If not, check it out on youtube. The Long story short is this, guy wanted the girl despite everyone telling him no, he wanted to rebel and so did she, so during the wedding, he runs away with her to a bus, they leave on it and...The Sound of Silence begins to play as their faces go from happiness to...neutrality-realization over what they just done. That ending is honestly genius and a true example of subverting expectations but my point is that the problem with youthful rebellion is that most of the times they dont know what comes after the "goal", you rebelled and...then what? What you going to build to replace the system you rebelled again? See? Reality starts setting in.

The problem is, these writers didnt actually get into the Sounds of Silence realization in their lives, they antagonize western society, pretending they have a goal but when you truly think about it, they really dont. They want to rebel against the system unaware that they are the system and even if they werent, the option they are offering to replace the system isnt that much better than it.

Their intention isn't to replace anything with anything. Their intention is to crusade against anything that triggers them, defeat it, move the ratchet to a new notch, then crusade against whatever lies beyond the old goal. They are created to fight, move the ratchet, fight, move the ratchet further, fight,etc., forever. That's because the Crusade IS their goal, and the ends really don't matter all that much. Whatever gives them the moral authority and power that they need as quickly as they can get it, that's what they want. If they had lived in the early 20th century, they'd be ranting against Demon Alcohol instead of problematic whyte men. If they had lived in Europe of the 16th Century, they'd be Witchfinder Generals, stripping women naked and burning them at the stake for having a birthmark shaped like a goat.
 
It reminds me of Jared Joker saying that stupid like "desire becomes surrender surrender becomes power", it SOUNDS smart...until it doesnt.

That line makes sense if it's the Joker talking to Harley: not because it makes sense, but because he's a manipulative psychopath who's using questionable logic to reel in a smitten, emotionally unstable woman by giving her an excuse to do what she wants in spite of her better judgement.
 
Its amazing how most feminist "heroes" are borderline villains.
I remember I kind of wrote in one of my brainstorm ideas of this The Boys styled "heroine" that is incredibly sexist towards men (and not an exactly angel with women either), pretty much making up or exageratting facts to have them arrested and she is just so OP, what can anyone do to stop her? I, of course, know that a character like this would never, ever fucking fly nowadays.

Hell, even PowerPuff GIRLS had an episode showing why extreme feminism is bullshit. It was a villainess that used the fact that she is the "only" female villain in townsvile (which to a OG PPG fan like me, I know its bullshit but still) and that by some real logic stretching, convinced the girls that she should be let go because she has vagina (seriously, that was the reason, because she was just a woman). Then the Girls start acting like assholes to males until Mrs Bellum (who is, in my opinion, an actual good female role model, hence why she was removed in the shitty reboot), and other two female characters the villainess fucked over with her crimes, pretty much snap them out of it and the girls face her and tell her that true feminism is getting equal treatment so she isnt any better than any of the criminal scum they faced before (and they beat the fuck out of her and send her to jail like it usually goes).

Oh man, old TV was so much better...

Unfortunately I don't remember those episodes, but I do remember the original PPG was awesome, Cartoon Network in general in the 90s was a really wonderful thing.

When I was really little I was obsessed with Nickelodeon, but starting around 1997 or so Nick started to lose a lot of of it's magic, but Cartoon Network was there to pick up the slack for the rest of the 90s and my childhood, Cartoon Network was as important to me for the second half of my childhood as Nick was for the first half, I've always been very thankful for that.
 
I almost was able to forget that pseudo intellectual cancer. Its the type of line that sounds okay at first but the more you think about it, the more it sounds like they dont know what they are talking about.
I didn't need to think about it. It's the capstone on a godawful scene, an utterly cringeworthy line, one of the worst in all Star Wars, that made me audibly groan in the theater.
 
Yeah but here is the problem with rebellious "tear it all down" attitude...does anyone remember the ending of The Graduate? If not, check it out on youtube. The Long story short is this, guy wanted the girl despite everyone telling him no, he wanted to rebel and so did she, so during the wedding, he runs away with her to a bus, they leave on it and...The Sound of Silence begins to play as their faces go from happiness to...neutrality-realization over what they just done. That ending is honestly genius and a true example of subverting expectations but my point is that the problem with youthful rebellion is that most of the times they dont know what comes after the "goal", you rebelled and...then what? What you going to build to replace the system you rebelled again? See? Reality starts setting in.
So pretty much Romeo and Juliet. A bunch of dumb horny teenagers had to get with each other despite everything and ended up dying in the process.
 
Something that I forgot to mention about the trailer in the past:

There's a scene where the characters go to the Death Star in the ocean, riding some ship that barely skims the waves, has anyone else noticed that it's some rinky-dink, wobbly piece of shit thing?

Much like the Salt-Speeders from TLJ; this shit looks like everything is wobbly, loose and will fall apart at any moment.
It's so strange and stupid, imagine a kid's reaction to the wobbly shit-ships in TLJ:

They are the most prominent ship in the movie and they look like crap, can you imagine a kid going "That piece of junk that barely held together and wasn't shown to fire a single shot, now that's something I want as a toy!!!"
Same with this thing.

These ships need to be awesome. They need to be powerful. They need to be cool. They don't need to be invincible, but they should not be wobbly pieces of shit.

What is wrong with Disney's designers to come up with such crappy designs. No kid wants such a shitty vehicle.

On the topic of Star Wars, my friends are going to drag me along to see it in theaters. They keep saying I'm irrational in expressing my dislike and that it won't be that bad, and that my opinion about the franchise destroying itself is incorrect. I will go with them, but I will cackle like a hyena, and unlike VII when I stifled my laughter during the Kylo Ren face reveal I will do it with pride.

Hell maybe I'll just get them to take bets with me on what's about to happen.

I also never paid to see VIII so I will bite the bullet on this one. At least I will get my moneys' worth in cringe.
Eh... I don't want anyone to pay for this shitheap of a movie, so I am sad to read such things, but if you end up in the theatre, at least make it count. Don't hold back when you have to laugh, when something stupid happens, comment it, heckle this shit out of this movie and when the biggest bomb drops and people start to realize, just how much of a shitshow this has been, you should ask them "Is this everything you hoped for, is this what you wanted?"

But really, you should not be forced to watch a movie that you don't want to see and even pay for it.

Then again, make it a game: Bet with your people, bet on the leaks. Tell them what GeneralFriendliness has compiled and bet that it's gonna be the atrocious plot of the movie. If they enter the bet, you have succeeded in two ways:
1) You make money
2) You took away all "surprising" twists this movie had, making your friends understand, just what the kind of shitshow it is.

I almost was able to forget that pseudo intellectual cancer. Its the type of line that sounds okay at first but the more you think about it, the more it sounds like they dont know what they are talking about. It reminds me of Jared Joker saying that stupid like "
desire becomes surrender surrender becomes power", it SOUNDS smart...until it doesnt.
The best part about it will always be how the "things they love" get blown up in the background, cause Finn was sabotaged when he tried to save it. It's a shame we didn't outright see how a shitton of rebells died in that scene, just to highlight it some more. Then again, all those guys in the trenches in front of the bunker are gone after the pointless battle, so I guess we do have a substantial bodycount.
 
On the topic of Star Wars, my friends are going to drag me along to see it in theaters. They keep saying I'm irrational in expressing my dislike and that it won't be that bad, and that my opinion about the franchise destroying itself is incorrect. I will go with them, but I will cackle like a hyena, and unlike VII when I stifled my laughter during the Kylo Ren face reveal I will do it with pride.

Hell maybe I'll just get them to take bets with me on what's about to happen.

I also never paid to see VIII so I will bite the bullet on this one. At least I will get my moneys' worth in cringe.
If your friends are trying to talk you into going, the very least they could do is spring for the ticket. Speaking for myself, I will see this movie if I get dragged along on a social occasion and don't have to pay for it (as with TFA.)
If you're going to be dragged along, first drop the Exogol spoilers, then tell them not to go, and then finally just leave the fucking theater ASAP.
You don't want to sit through this bullshit. Walk right out after half an hour, ask for your money back for the ticket, and then drive away.
 
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What the fuck? The First Six films had cohesive endings with Revenge of the Sith/Return of the Jedi perfectly wrapping up their trilogies.

Did JJ reach to such a delusion to think he is the one to "end" the Star Wars saga?

Also I just realized that really there is no real excuse for the Emperor to appear in this trilogy because while Snoke is dead, JJ can still reuse him and bullshit his death as a clone that died or a "advanced" astral projection since Luke pulled that crap in TLJ.

Bringing back Palpatine was not because they needed a new villain, but Disney needed a fucking marketing gimmick to get people to see the movie because they know their crap won't sell.

I am probably pointing out the obvious but this goes to show that JJ is an uncreative hack who can't think of anything original and just copies off of others.
 
Did JJ reach to such a delusion to think he is the one to "end" the Star Wars saga?
Can't really argue with this, though. If IX bombs, it will be the end of Star Wars for some time at least.

Bringing back Palpatine was not because they needed a new villain, but Disney needed a fucking marketing gimmick to get people to see the movie because they know their crap won't sell.
I think they would have brought back Palpatine, even if Snoke had not been killed in TLJ. Disney needed something (or rather someone) to lure people into the cinema. Their new shit didn't really strike a chord with people. People watched Star Wars for the old stuff and the memberberries, but all this does is remind people how much more amazing the franchise used to be. Only very few people really enjoy the new characters and most support for the new characters takes the form of "I have to defend these fictional people from bigots" and brand loyalty, not out of actual, genuine love for the new characters.
 
Can't really argue with this, though. If IX bombs, it will be the end of Star Wars for some time at least.


I think they would have brought back Palpatine, even if Snoke had not been killed in TLJ. Disney needed something (or rather someone) to lure people into the cinema. Their new shit didn't really strike a chord with people. People watched Star Wars for the old stuff and the memberberries, but all this does is remind people how much more amazing the franchise used to be. Only very few people really enjoy the new characters and most support for the new characters takes the form of "I have to defend these fictional people from bigots" and brand loyalty, not out of actual, genuine love for the new characters.

Honestly the problem with the new characters is because JJ is incapable of originality so he wanted to bring more focus to the shit he ripped off, and Rian Johnson wanted to "subvert expectations" rather than write an engaging story, or he's a deep cover troll who wanted to burn the Disney trilogy really badly.
 
I guess they forgot about Solo
Reminder, this is presales only. The movie’s final trailer has slowed down to 23 million days after a week since it debuted on YouTube.

I haven’t put my two cents on the trailer yet, but allow me to give a critique of it.
  • The movie looks such a hot mess that it’s comical. Not helped that the reshoots look like shit.
  • They’re several shots in the trailer that look half-finished and unpolished, like the stupid horse charge.
  • Almost all of the actors looked tired as fuck, though it’ll suck when this film destroys their
Best thing I can say is that when this movie bombs,
 
So London Comic Con is happening and the star wars stuff apparently has caused confusion

Hasbro has not made a Palpatine figure because according to the rep they only wanted characters who are in the movie.

This has now made people wonder if they cut Palpatine entirely since reshoots are still apparently going

Disney wasn't happy about the price tag of the papatine situation, but there's also the fact that they also don't want scary toys since all the reveals are lacking aliens of any sort. Like you're not getting rancors or wampas or any actual beasts.

So are they just going to have everything reduced to a spooky voiceover made by a soundalike?
 
So London Comic Con is happening and the star wars stuff apparently has caused confusion

Hasbro has not made a Palpatine figure because according to the rep they only wanted characters who are in the movie.

This has now made people wonder if they cut Palpatine entirely since reshoots are still apparently going

Disney wasn't happy about the price tag of the papatine situation, but there's also the fact that they also don't want scary toys since all the reveals are lacking aliens of any sort. Like you're not getting rancors or wampas or any actual beasts.

So are they just going to have everything reduced to a spooky voiceover made by a soundalike?
I wouldn’t be surprised if they regulate Palestine into a recorded cameo.
 
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