2019-10-16 - Federal Grand Jury Subpoena

[fаg0t]

America matters, New Zealand doesn't.
America sent proper papers, New Zealand didn't.
America has a position of power and acts according, New Zealand doesn't and didn't.

That's the difference.

You're a gutless cuck who rolls over at the first hint of trouble LARPing as some great champion of civil liberties.

And your facetious "I love Israel" gimmick isn't funny either. "Ironically" sucking ZOG cock doesn't work when you're on your knees doing it unironically too.

 

[Null]

You're a gutless cuck who rolls over at the first hint of trouble LARPing as some great champion of civil liberties.

And your facetious "I love Israel" gimmick isn't funny either. "Ironically" sucking ZOG cock doesn't work when you're on your knees doing it unironically too.

lol, I've not sent anything yet. I spent a week before talking about this privately attempting to solicit legal advice and no one wants to help. I can't afford to pay for help. If I could, I would. I'm sorry but I do this entirely by myself, all the time, on every front. I've been lucky with money this year, but for the last few I've not been lucky and I've not yet undone the financial damage I've done to myself by sticking through this. If the server needs to be fixed, I have to fix it. If the site goes down, I have to put it up. If we can't find hosting, I have to learn BGP, I have to buy the IP ranges, I have to set up the ASN, I have to do all that on myself on a budget of almost nothing. When the site gets hacked, I ask people I know for help, and no one can help, I have to fix that too. I don't know what more I can do to prove my dedication to you, an Internet stranger who runs a few Tor exit nodes.

Given your second sentence, I feel this emotional outburst is not a consequence of me appropriately stacking my priorities in a way that dissatisfies you, but is rather a consequence of your humorless existence, lashing out at me for confessing my UNDYING LOVE FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL . Dipshit. The moment you lose your sense of humor, you lose everything. Why do people pick Right over Left now? Because Left denigrates humor. Pick up that habit and you'll disinherit everything you've gained.

And btw, I've never called myself a champion of civil liberties. I'm just some guy. My goal has only ever be to give people a place where they can say whatever they want, so that when I eventually give up, some better people will remember what it feels like and then go on to make their own.

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

Grand Jury Detective to His Boss: "I'M WOR-KIN' ON IT! LET ME DO THAT STUPID SUBPOENA SO I CAN TELL E'RRYBODY, IN MY COMMAND, TO GET EVERYTHIN'- HELP ME GET EVERYTHIN' OFF THE INTERNET-"

 

[Vince McMahon]

You're a gutless cuck who rolls over at the first hint of trouble LARPing as some great champion of civil liberties.

And your facetious "I love Israel" gimmick isn't funny either. "Ironically" sucking ZOG cock doesn't work when you're on your knees doing it unironically too.

KickassTorrents' Artem Vatulin was apprehended by Polish authorities in 2016, because glowinthedarkies decided that while PirateBay founders told them to stick it, some big shot torrent guy is still needed for a public flogging.

He's still in Poland, three years later, trying not to get extradited to get 7 to 10 with punitive damages, which he will then have to pay off through prison labor. Jews in media industry love them public floggings.

Do you know why you can safely ignore those letters? Because you're a certified nobody, you don't have the profile and of no value to glowing niggers. Null shouldn't have told NZ to stick it, because it increased his media profile but if the glowies want you - they will get you regardless and there will be nothing you can do about it except, as some user here said, hope that they brought the lube.

I'm pretty sure you're not a warez scenester from '00s and even they got buttfucked by the FBI.

So check yourself before you wreck yourself, faggot.

 

[Kaede Did Nothing Wrong]

I run a couple of Tor exit nodes so I get these letters all the time, exact same template. I just ignore them.

It's amusing to observe and contrast @Null's meek humility here with his strident posturing over the Christchurch business, which was fucking cringe by the way. A firm but polite "no" to the Australian authorities would have sufficed, but you had to act like a petulant little shit and make a performance out of it for your silly forum. Not so fucking cocky now, huh fag0t?

how is it that you know enough to run tor exit nodes and still apparently posted to this site without any protection? there are better safety measures than expecting other people to get jailed for contempt on your behalf.

 

[Burd Turglar]

I'm just glad that a portion of my tax dollars is going to some suits having to lurk and troll this silly ass website dedicated to laughing at pedos, trannies, fat people and general degenerates.

Good job Uncle Sam and any other dip shit national government! The world is burning and you're focused on a fucking website that laughs at people.

Also, @fag0t, you need to take a chill pill or borrow my stool with a bad leg and take it to the noose superstore you butt hurt mongoloid.

 

[Troonos]

You're a gutless cuck who rolls over at the first hint of trouble LARPing as some great champion of civil liberties.

And your facetious "I love Israel" gimmick isn't funny either. "Ironically" sucking ZOG cock doesn't work when you're on your knees doing it unironically too.

Wait, this isn't the real fag0t account. It was created today. Who's this faggot?

lol, I've not sent anything yet. I spent a week before talking about this privately attempting to solicit legal advice and no one wants to help. I can't afford to pay for help. If I could, I would. I'm sorry but I do this entirely by myself, all the time, on every front. I've been lucky with money this year, but for the last few I've not been lucky and I've not yet undone the financial damage I've done to myself by sticking through this. If the server needs to be fixed, I have to fix it. If the site goes down, I have to put it up. If we can't find hosting, I have to learn BGP, I have to buy the IP ranges, I have to set up the ASN, I have to do all that on myself on a budget of almost nothing. When the site gets hacked, I ask people I know for help, and no one can help, I have to fix that too. I don't know what more I can do to prove my dedication to you, an Internet stranger who runs a few Tor exit nodes.

Given your second sentence, I feel this emotional outburst is not a consequence of me appropriately stacking my priorities in a way that dissatisfies you, but is rather a consequence of your humorless existence, lashing out at me for confessing my UNDYING LOVE FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL . Dipshit. The moment you lose your sense of humor, you lose everything. Why do people pick Right over Left now? Because Left denigrates humor. Pick up that habit and you'll disinherit everything you've gained.

And btw, I've never called myself a champion of civil liberties. I'm just some guy. My goal has only ever be to give people a place where they can say whatever they want, so that when I eventually give up, some better people will remember what it feels like and then go on to make their own.

Thank you for everything you do for us while asking nothing in return. You have the heart of a servant.

 

[Staffy]

oh shit

does this mean we have to suck tranny cocks now?

 

[mindlessobserver]

I run a couple of Tor exit nodes so I get these letters all the time, exact same template. I just ignore them.

Why would you admit to running exit nodes on a forum that has been subpoenaed for your Dox? What sort of an idiot are you? Makes me wonder just who is using your services. Might explain why the feds are interested in your shit.

It's amusing to observe and contrast @Null's meek humility here with his strident posturing over the Christchurch business, which was fucking cringe by the way. A firm but polite "no" to the Australian authorities would have sufficed, but you had to act like a petulant little shit and make a performance out of it for your silly forum. Not so fucking cocky now, huh fag0t?

You know what, fuck this guy. He is very clearly a moron who thinks he is some bad ass l337 hax0r running serious business on the internet. He's just going to cause trouble and would be an ungrateful little shit even if Null decided to stand up for him. Let him get what's coming to him.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

I run a couple of Tor exit nodes so I get these letters all the time, exact same template. I just ignore them.

It's amusing to observe and contrast @Null's meek humility here with his strident posturing over the Christchurch business, which was fucking cringe by the way. A firm but polite "no" to the Australian authorities would have sufficed, but you had to act like a petulant little shit and make a performance out of it for your silly forum. Not so fucking cocky now, huh fag0t?

It was the New Zealand police. Also, he doesn't run his business or any of his servers in NZ, so he doesn't owe them shit and to demand anything from Null was more than an overreach.

The US is a different matter.

 

[Superman93]

If this is the real fag0t then you are the single biggest dumbest fucking re-tard I’ve ever seen in my life.

Posting here has gotten you in the crosshairs of the feds and you’re still coming back to post some more? What the fuck is the matter with you? Did your mom drop you on your head when you were a kid or something?

 

[Smug Cat]

lol, I've not sent anything yet. I spent a week before talking about this privately attempting to solicit legal advice and no one wants to help. I can't afford to pay for help. If I could, I would. I'm sorry but I do this entirely by myself, all the time, on every front. I've been lucky with money this year, but for the last few I've not been lucky and I've not yet undone the financial damage I've done to myself by sticking through this. If the server needs to be fixed, I have to fix it. If the site goes down, I have to put it up. If we can't find hosting, I have to learn BGP, I have to buy the IP ranges, I have to set up the ASN, I have to do all that on myself on a budget of almost nothing. When the site gets hacked, I ask people I know for help, and no one can help, I have to fix that too. I don't know what more I can do to prove my dedication to you, an Internet stranger who runs a few Tor exit nodes.

Given your second sentence, I feel this emotional outburst is not a consequence of me appropriately stacking my priorities in a way that dissatisfies you, but is rather a consequence of your humorless existence, lashing out at me for confessing my UNDYING LOVE FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL . Dipshit. The moment you lose your sense of humor, you lose everything. Why do people pick Right over Left now? Because Left denigrates humor. Pick up that habit and you'll disinherit everything you've gained.

And btw, I've never called myself a champion of civil liberties. I'm just some guy. My goal has only ever be to give people a place where they can say whatever they want, so that when I eventually give up, some better people will remember what it feels like and then go on to make their own.

For what it's worth, dude, if you ran a fundraiser for legal fees, I'd donate to it.

 

[stets]

What the Germans are doing to minorities in Hong Kong right now is a fucking piece of delicious cheesecake compared to the shit that @Null has pulled for years by hosting this webzone. I hope null gets raped and murdered by the federal grand jury. #diejoosh

 

[Superman93]

I run a couple of Tor exit nodes so I get these letters all the time, exact same template. I just ignore them.

Wait a minute you get subpoenas from US LEO all the time? For what?

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

https://kiwifarms.net/members/fag0t.44877/
https://kiwifarms.net/members/fag0t.42693/

 

[Sexy Potoo]

@Null are you an American Citizen living abroad? It seems weird to me that the courts could compel someone to purchase an international plane ticket, and a hotel room in New York, within the span of 2 weeks. Especially someone who has a history if financial troubles. Also, did someone hand you the court documents personally? If not, the subpoena may not be legally binding.

States have a limit on the amount that they may burden someone with a subpoena. The rule on distance may be what allows you to quash this motion.

Spoiler: Legalese

(1) For a Trial, Hearing, or Deposition. A subpoena may command a person to attend a trial, hearing, or deposition only as follows:

(A) within 100 miles of where the person resides, is employed, or regularly transacts business in person; or

(B) within the state where the person resides, is employed, or regularly transacts business in person, if the person

(i) is a party or a party's officer; or

(ii) is commanded to attend a trial and would not incur substantial expense.

Check with Nick on how to file a motion to quash this subpoena. It is very likely that the lawyer thought you were just some random forum host that would panic and give over information they have no right to. As long as you respond to the subpoena, even if it is to refute its very right to exist, you can't be held in contempt of court.

Some reference sites I found:

How to Get Out of a Court Subpoena

Get out of a court subpoena by filing a motion to quash. To file the motion, however, you must have a very good reason that will convince the court that you should not have to appear and testify.

legalbeagle.com

Rule 45. Subpoena

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Back when this was "CWCki Forums," few -- if any -- of us could've seen the day when this site would be called "Kiwi Farms" and be the center of such a circus of odd drama and happenings.

 

[Taraxacum]

aww @Null if I was allowed to represent you I'd do it in a heartbeat. I have to say the freakout in this thread is pretty uncalled for, none of this is a surprise, its been transparent on this site that a legitimate request from a government with power to make the request would probably be honored. This isn't a criminal organization, despite what the absolute idiots out there think, or anything even close to skirting the law. We appreciate null for taking a stand against terrible people who abuse legal processes to extra-judicially punish people who express unpopular ideas, whether they actually believe those ideas or not. But there's a pretty easy rule of the internet to follow: no one's going to jail for your ass. And no ones going to jail in the US for something they said here, and no ones getting extradited to euroland from the US for something they said here jfc. Even assuming Mr. Tor Exit Node guy is telling the truth, null is not similarly situated. Null has a company, registered in the united states, for the purpose of running this forum, and this subpoena is directed to that company, not to him as a person.

That said, as was pointed out earlier, this is a standard subpoena duces tecum, sent to businesses all the time. Extremely unlikely that either null or kiwifarms is a target or a subject of this investigation. Dickbag probably isn't the target either, unless they have information from another source. One thing for people who aren't familiar with federal criminal stuff, unlike in the state context the assistant US attorney and the investigators work together, along with the grand jury, during the investigative process, so they may just be trying to see if any dots connect from elsewhere. I can tell you, if you consulted an attorney, they'd advise you not to appear in person since you don't have to and it's just data they're requesting. Just remember to sign and send the declaration on the last page there, they use that to authenticate evidence if they need to eventually. (Repeating in bold since there's 18 pages of people not getting this Null does not have to appear in person, regardless of where he is at the moment.) Most of the data, by the way, the answer will be simply, "don't have it," because as was pointed out this is a boilerplate request not one iota of actual thought went in to. The options are pretty simple. (Option 1) Ignore. Not advisable. This will likely result in a contempt order and a warrant, which can get you held up crossing the border or traveling domestically, then detained, then extradited, then (worst of all) you'll have to lizzy feign indignance cause something didn't go her way (I've worked in a DAs office...you have to understand all the rules are there to make prosecutor's jobs easy, so i've heard the whine plenty of times). (Option 2) Comply. Obviously the easiest solution. Honestly the IP data (if you have it) is really the only thing of value, unless dickbag lost all common sense when registering. Everyone knows your ip data gets disclosed and used for lots of purposes all the time, no one has an expectation that that data will remain private. Even companies like Google don't try to fight that. (Option 3) You could file a motion with the Southern District, probably in a two-part form: Part One: ask the court to quash the subpoena as unreasonable or opporessive. The second circuit is sensitive to fishing expeditions, and given that the government doesn't know who this individual is and has no reason to suspect her of committing a crime (because they don't know who it is), there's no reasonable basis for the subpoena, and absent more information it appears designed solely to chill the exercise of first amendment rights, to include preserving newsworthy items of interest to the general public. Part Two: ask the court, in the alternative, to narrow the subpoena to request specific data points for which there is reasonable basis for the request. There isn't a greatt likelihood of success for Option 3, unfortuately, federal grand jury subpoenas are notoriously difficult to challenge, but is there.

That's my .02, best of luck, whatever you decide to do.

 

[StrawberryDouche]

I don't understand why a minor shooting that happened in Germany is of any concern to the US, nor why they would be issuing a subpoena to Null for materials that are legal to possess and distribute.

If you read the documents that were posted, someone sent the shooter bitcoin so he could presumably buy weapons and/or ammo.

That becomes material support for terrorism, and that's what all the hubbub is about, bub.

This isn't about the gestapo rounding up innocent shitposters. If that part of the doc hadn't been posted, the feds wouldn't give a shit, but now they're going to hunt down fag0t like a faggot and see if he knows anything about anything.

Not really directed at you, but idk why anyone isn't reading the actual gd docs in question.

 

[Male Idiot]

So they think he financed the guy knowing he was going to do something illegal with the funds?

I love the great nation of Israel. It is the best nation in the world. Palestine is not real. Go Israel, keep taunting them sandniggers and keep their aggro off us eastern europeans. We thank you for hard work with love and symbolic kippa drawings. The only thing almost as good as Israel is Trump!

Don't get me started on the Hungarians...

We Hungarians are the evil shadow goverment, I am sure. Our plan is to make everybody buy our paprika. You can not stop us. You will buy our terrible overpriced paprika, it will cost you all two dollars! I will now laugh maniacally.

I think the EU would extradite anybody to the US for anything. Only Russia and China may be safe, unless they get a juicy prisoner exchange deal I guess.
If the US really wanted someone, I am sure they could just assassinate the person or abduct him. I wonder what they want with Null, how glow in the dark this shit is.