Morgane Oger / Ronan Oger - defunded a rape crisis shelter, JY frenemy, sues ppl for misgendering, stalks meghan murphy, EX vp of new dem party that lost 3+ elections

[sperginity]

I want to know about if Morgane Ogre has ever actually read the laws re: unfair discrimination she keeps threatening other people with.

I am pretty sure he has read them, but as an IT professional and probable autist he doesn't have any god damn clue what laws mean practically. His entire foundation is set up to test out if the law works the way he wishes it did.

He 100% knows that Vancouver Rape Relief overturned the human rights tribunal ruling against them (fornot hiring troons), and did so with a real court, but oger ignores that. So the exact mix of willful ignorance and the regular kind is up for debate.

 

[Me_el_wante_V2.0]

I am pretty sure he has read them, but as an IT professional and probable autist he doesn't have any god damn clue what laws mean practically. His entire foundation is set up to test out if the law works the way he wishes it did.

He 100% knows that Vancouver Rape Relief overturned the human rights tribunal ruling against them (fornot hiring troons), and did so with a real court, but oger ignores that. So the exact mix of willful ignorance and the regular kind is up for debate.

I suppose there is also another, more gross and manipulative possibility that Morgane has read it, understands it but knows that other people haven't/don't. It wouldnt surprise me really, because she is a selfish, fascist ideologue without even the smallest iota of empathy for other people. That's what I dislike about her the most I think, it's that people like her and JY make fundamental human rights and freedoms, and the creation of institutions to uphold those rights seem like bad ideas because they use them to hurt and scare and other people, and that shouldn't be the case, those things are rad.

One day I might get over the fact that she defunded a rape shelter for vulnerable biological women because she is, in fact, a terrible person, but that day is not today (or ever). It's one thing to disagree with a policy but it takes a special kind of malice to fuck over an organisation that's helping people to that extent.

ETA - I read somewhere that they only used the funding for services that are available to everyone, which makes that whole debacle even more of a travesty.

 

[AnOminous]

Crimes are promoting genocide, promoting hatred. For the life of me I cannot see how misgendering could fall under either of those, even though to be 100% fair there are instances where doing that could be dickish.

The troon narrative is that "misgendering," i.e. referring to a man as actually being a man, which he is, when he claims to be a woman, like the man Ronan Oger, is literal violence.

 

[Me_el_wante_V2.0]

The troon narrative is that "misgendering," i.e. referring to a man as actually being a man, which he is, when he claims to be a woman, like the man Ronan Oger, is literal violence.

Well if the bar for violence is set that low, I guess you just genocided Morgane Ogre innit.

Edit because I forgot a word

 

[BallBuster]

I just can’t.

 

[Spastic Colon]

I just can’t.

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I'm going to need a citation for that, Ogre. What male has ever given birth naturally through the birth canal -- other than a pretend male (FtM)? Surely a news organization would have reported that. Or at least a medical journal.

 

[wabbits]

Maybe these?

California:
Schoenhaus, S. A.; Lentz, S. E.; Saber, P; Munro, M. G.; Kivnick, S (200. "Pregnancy in a hermaphrodite with a male-predominant mosaic karyotype". Fertility and Sterility. 90 (5): 2016.e7–10. doi:10.1016/j.fertnstert.2008.01.104. PMID 18394621.

Croatia:
Dumic, Miroslav; Lin-Su, Karen; Leibel, Natasha I.; Ciglar, Srecko; Vinci, Giovanna; Lasan, Ruzica; Nimkarn, Saroj; Wilson, Jean D.; McElreavey, Ken; New, Maria I. (1 January 200. "Report of fertility in a woman with a predominantly 46,XY karyotype in a family with multiple disorders of sexual development". The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism. 93 (1): 182–189. doi:10.1210/jc.2007-2155. ISSN 0021-972X. PMC 2190741. PMID 18000096. A 46,XY mother who developed as a normal woman underwent spontaneous puberty, reached menarche, menstruated regularly, experienced two unassisted pregnancies, and gave birth to a 46,XY daughter with complete gonadal dysgenesis."

 

[Box of Shame]

Morgane has added quite a few tweets to that twitter thread. The first couple of tweets where he was critical of his evil nemesis, TERF Meghan Murphy, got a handful of likes, but once he started claiming to be a female, they stopped. Zero retweets, zero likes.

Then he was called a troglodyte. THAT tweet is getting likes.




http://archive.is/T4tGz http://archive.is/KwhjB

 

[sperginity]

"males have given birth" what the ever loving fuck?? this is secret gamer girl level confusion about biology

 

[SevenEightNine]

"males have given birth" what the ever loving fuck?? this is secret gamer girl level confusion about biology

It's the two cases quoted above, and a few other theorized expressions of mosaicim/chimerism.

Morgane thinks these counter examples, replete with recognized disorders (usually more than one) are a basis for ignoring prevailing biological classification.

Because Morgane is a fecking twit.

Oger makes me viscerally angry. I still haven't latched entirely onto why. I think it's like when prey animals savagely kill a weak member of the herd. I think that's a real thing. Note, I have no urge to savagely kill anyone, just looking for a reason I can't really dismiss this fecking twit.

 

[Vagivagal Syncope]

That poor "husband" of his... He looks like he's had his testes kicked all the way up to his eyeballs.
Actually his neck and head look kind-of like a circumcised penis.

I wonder what his ex-wife thinks of him parading around saying he "fathered" children. Sure, Morgane, you came, and then YOUR WIFE went through the process of child-birth.

 

[glass_houses]

Ogre talking about his children always makes me seriously wonder if he has any form of relationship with them. When was the last time he saw/spoke to them? It'd be aggravating as fuck watching him swan about declaring his noble status of a self sacrificing parent when he hasn't seen them since Christmas five years ago. Something tells me that if he did have a relationship with his kids, he'd exploit it in every possible way.

 

[AnOminous]

Ogre talking about his children always makes me seriously wonder if he has any from if relationship with them. When was the last time he saw/spoke to them? It'd be aggravating as fuck watching him swan about declaring his noble status of a self sacrificing parent when he hasn't seen them since Christmas five years ago. Something tells me that if he did have a relationship with his kids, he'd exploit it in every possible way.

Troons like Ogre are pure narcissists. To the extent they even acknowledge children or wives or anyone else as even existing, they exist only as accessories to the grandeur of the troon's life and to demonstrate the value of the troon's claims to be a "woman."

 

[Me_el_wante_V2.0]

I just can’t.

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I'm not gonna address the rest of what she said because it's just too stupid, but when she says that "males have given birth naturally through the birth canal", she could be talking about transmen who haven't had bottom surgery (although in context I don't know if I'm giving her too much credit). I will refer to her as"she" cos I'm not really bothered about using someone's preferred pronouns, but I'm not gonna sit here and deny the reality that she is in fact a biological male and always will be, and no amount of bathing in oestrogen (or whatever it is she says she has done) is ever going to change that. This thread started off with her being your average misogynistic "you have to touch a girl-dick or you're a bigot" asshole but she's now producing a level of craziness that I didn't expect tbh.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm not gonna address the rest of what she said because it's just too stupid, but when she says that "males have given birth naturally through the birth canal", she could be talking about transmen who haven't had bottom surgery (although in context I don't know if I'm giving her too much credit). I will refer to her as"she" cos I'm not really bothered about using someone's preferred pronouns, but I'm not gonna sit here and deny the reality that she is in fact a biological male and always will be, and no amount of bathing in oestrogen (or whatever it is she says she has done) is ever going to change that. This thread started off with her being a misogynistic "you have to touch a girl-dick or you're a bigot" asshole but she's now producing a level of craziness that I didn't expect tbh.

Not all women give birth, but all who give birth are women. And no man will give birth. A man like the Rogaine Ogre will never give birth because he is a man and men don't give birth.

 

[Me_el_wante_V2.0]

Not all women give birth, but all who give birth are women. And no man will give birth. A man like the Rogaine Ogre will never give birth because he is a man and men don't give birth.

100%. A baby won't grow in her scrotum and fit out her peehole when the time comes to yeet it out into the world, so. And that is ignoring the other reasons as to why a man can't have a baby.

 

[AnOminous]

100%. A baby won't grow in her scrotum and fit out her peehole when the time comes to yeet it out into the world, so. And that is ignoring the other reasons as to why a man can't have a baby.

The Rogaine Ogre is a man who ejaculated inside of a woman and made her pregnant, which makes him a father, and therefore, a man.

 

[Me_el_wante_V2.0]

The Rogaine Ogre is a man who ejaculated inside of a woman and made her pregnant, which makes him a father, and therefore, a man.

Are we arguing about that? (Sincere question)

Pronouns are not magic words that alter biology. Me referring to Morgane as she/her doesn't change that. Also, just to be clear, me doing that doesn't mean that I think anyone else has to, I'm not here to police the way anyone speaks.

TL;DR: apparently I'm feeling sensitive today or something.

 

[Next Task]

And no man will give birth.

Counterpoint:

(I'm honestly surprised it doesn't come up more often in these sorts of discussions.)

 

[Vagivagal Syncope]

Maybe he thinks he's a Seahorse? With Seahorses, the males carry the babies to term. Might be appropriate since he can't explain himself as a rainbow-farting Unicorn.