I agree. There's also groups like Scientology, where maybe not everyone believes it but one or two powerful people who do can act on it if they want. Or to be that guy, think of how many rich, powerful fundamentalist Jews there are. Or just powerful religious people in general. Then put them above 99% of the population and anything they believe about their religion becomes correct to them due to how much "greater/smarter/whatever" more than the masses they are. The ego these people may have coupled with whatever entitlement and paranoia that comes with the territory of being one of the most powerful people on the planet, I can believe they'd believe just about anything.
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True, but that doesn't discount the fact that there was some medical evidence that showed genital and anal scarring. In fact, one of the parents became suspicious when her child came home with rectal bleeding. Not every victim who came forward was a child, either. There were some in their teens and early twenties, but they weren't allowed to testify because the statute of limitations had run out. It also doesn't explain the existence of those tunnels.
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That archive looks more like it was Gunderson's notes for one of his talks than an unredacted file. The introduction about the numbers of missing children, the tips for keeping children safe and examples of missing children cases is why I think this but I don't doubt that his information was legitimate.Alright first my little take and I'll share some weird shit i found to add to the pile of other weird shit. The McMartin preschool is something I deeply remember and a major source of contention were those tunnels, I remember there was some crazy lady I knew back then that I thought was some conspiracy wing nut but she spoke alot about this case and of highly organized sex trafficking rings run by Intelligence agencies...after seeing this shit, I'm starting to think she was ahead of her time.
So this got me thinking. Of course we jave this newer info, but what about all those wing nuts who may have been pretty good investigators/journalists a bit ahead of their times, what about the info that was shared awhile back before FBI confirmed.
I did some rooting around and found a weird site that I guess does reviews for alternative living/ "spiritual communities" and what did I find, our ole buddy finders
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The Finders - SpiritualTeachers.org
The Finders were a relatively obscure spiritual group based in Washington, D.C. I was originally led to them by John Wren-Lewis.
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Here is the text without the comments (though two comments I will focus on in a minute and you'll see why)
The Finders were a relatively obscure spiritual group based in Washington, D.C. I was originally led to them when I asked John Wren-Lewis‘ (archive: http://archive.li/2cjne ) opinion on spiritual groups worth visiting in the United States. The Finders originated in the early 1970s (known as The Seekers in those days) under the direction of Marion Pettie. A search of the web turned up a handful of reports that Pettie and The Finders were a front for CIA operations, plus some suspicions of child abuse and pornography — all and all, not very encouraging.
I called the phone number given by Wren-Lewis and got an answering machine message. What I heard was a rambling, non-sensical message interspersed with electronic tones. Apparently, it was a coded message. I left my name and number and mentioned Wren-Lewis as my referral. As soon as I mentioned Wren-Lewis, someone picked up the phone.
The Finder I spoke with was a pleasant enough fellow, just rather vague. He said people came to the group for various reasons, such as needing work, and that they traveled all over the world on business. Pettie was not a guru, but he did organize things. When I asked if Pettie was enlightened, he said Pettie predicted his date of “entrance into knowledge” to be 2004. I was invited to stop by their location in D.C. “Go inside, ring the gong, and someone will let you in.” Yeah, sure thing buddy, and I’ll probably never be seen again, either.
By this point, I just wanted off the phone. Needless to say, I didn’t take The Finders up on their invitation to visit. I don’t know what they are up to, but there is something rotten in the state of Denmark. My theory is that Pettie iss a rogue CIA agent who infiltrated the guru movement of the 1970s. Eventually, he convinced himself he really was a guru. Now, he and his students travel the world as spies for hire. It would make a good movie, wouldn’t it?
If anyone out there has the inside scoop on The Finders, please let me know. I found their secrecy worrisome and do not recommend them. One of these days, I’m going to ask John Wren-Lewis why he recommended them to me.
2004 Update: I heard from John Wren-Lewis that Pettie truly predicted his date of “entrance into knowledge.” He said Pettie died in June 2004. I found a newspaper article, though, that says Pettie died in 2003.
2016 Update: As near as I can tell, The Finders are finished. Whatever was left of the group dispersed with Pettie’s death.
If you insist on investigating this strangeness for your self, here are a few links, updated as of 2016:
An interview with Marion Pettie (archive:
http://archive.li/szzIV )
Finders Keepers (can't get newer archive for some reason so this is outdated by two years http://archive.li/U5pIG )
A Free thinkers haven ( archive: http://archive.li/PXkQa )
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So this brings me to some unintentional comedy in the comment section:
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Oof there BullshitBuster looks like our lady Jas here might have been on to something with her good ole bud Ted after all
So this brings me to the links she shared. The first one looks like it was ripped off a site and I have no clue what the fuck I wrong with it, it is barely legible but is LOOONG and appears to have possible unredacted names and who knows maybe even some juicy years old Doxes or something
She linked an archive but I took an archive of the archive...just in case
(I downloaded the files on this site but can't figure how to upload or archive might be ninja'd already)
The Finders cult
Joseph Lloyd made this request to Federal Bureau of Investigation of the United States of America.www.muckrock.com
Happy Hunting's Kiwi Spooks
Edit: FUCKING BROOO Ted Gunderson was on this shit and no one would help his ass, this makes home boys cynaide poisoning story seem more legit
Quotes taken from archived document in Jas' post
What In the fuck!
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Ted Gunderson was a national fucking treasure
HOLYSHIT INDEED!
www.industriousrealty.com
I googled this address 3918/3920 W St., N.W. and some weird stuff happened.HOLYSHIT INDEED!
I'm not sure I the person wants to be credited/named but a Kiwi hero told me that what i posted I actually Gunderson book
I found something else an old blog of some tripped out person who's talking about this, had to find it using the wayback machine though
A cool thing here is that they drop some addresses (maybe ninja'd not sure)THE FINDERS
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On February 7th of 1987, the Washington Post ran an interesting story that did not at first seem to have any particularly national significance. The article concerned a case of possible kidnapping and child abuse, and material discovered in the Washington area that they say points to a 1960s style commune called the Finders, described in a court document as a "cult" that conducted "brainwashing" and used children "in rituals." DC police who searched the Northeast Washington warehouse linked to the group removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs and photographic contact sheets. Some showed naked children involved in what appeared to be "cult rituals," bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains.
Customs officials said their links to the DC area led authorities into a far-reaching investigation that includes The Finders -- a group of about 40 people that court documents allege is led by a man named Marion Pettie -- and their various homes, including the duplex apartment in Glover Park, the Northeast Washington warehouse and a 90 acre farm in rural Madison County, VA.
It was the US News and World Report that would ultimately provide the follow-up to the Finders story, noting that there is a certain Customs Service memorandum that was written at the time of the original investigation, written by Ramon J. Martinez, Special Agent, United States Customs Service, describing two adult white males and six minor children ages 7 years to 2 years. The adult males were Michael Houlihan and Douglas Ammerman, both of Washington, DC who had been arrested the previous day on charges of child abuse.The children were covered with insect bites, were very dirty, most of the children were not wearing underpants and all of the children had not been bathed in many days. The men were somewhat evasive under questioning and stated only that they were the children's teachers and were en route to Mexico to establish a school for brilliant children. The children were unaware of the functions of telephones, television and toilets, and stated that they were not allowed to live indoors and were only given food as a reward.
A Detective Bradley had initiated an investigation on the two addresses provided by the Tallahassee Police Department during December of 1986. An informant had given him information regarding the cult, known as the "Finders," operating various businesses out of a warehouse located at 1307 4th Street, N.E., and were supposed to be housing children at 3918/3920 W St., N.W.
The information was specific in describing "blood rituals" and sexual orgies involving children, and an as yet unsolved murder in which the Finders might be involved.
Cursory examination of documents revealed detailed instructions for optaining children for unspecified purposes. The instructions included the impregnation of female members of the community, purchasing children, trading and kidnapping. There were telex messages using MCI account numbers between a computer terminal believed to be in the same room, and others located across the country and in foreign locations.
There were pictures of nude children and adult Finders, as well as evidence of high-tech money transfers. There was a file called "Pentagon Break-in," and references to activities in Moscow, Hong Kong, China, Malaysia, North Vietnam, North Korea, Africa, London, Germany, "Europe" and the Bahamas.
There was also a file labeled "Palestinian."
One such telex specifically ordered the purchase of two children in Hong Kong to be arranged through a contact in the Chinese Embassy there. Other documents identified interests in high-tech transfers to the United Kingdom, numerous properties under the control of the Finders, a keen interest in terrorism, explosives, and the evasion of law enforcement.
There was also a set of instructions that appeared to broadcast via computer an advisory to the participants to keep the children moving through different jurisdictions and instructions on how to avoid police detection.
A photo album contained a series of photos of adults and children dressed in white sheets participating in a blood ritual. The ritual centered around the execution of at least two goats. The photos portrayed the execution, disembowelment, skinning and dismemberment of the goats at the hands of the children. This included the removal of the testes of a male goat, the discovery of a female goat's "womb" and the "baby goats" inside the womb, and the presentation of the goat's head to one of the children.
There was also a large amount of data collected on various child care organizations.
The warehouse contained a large library, two kitchens, a sauna, hot tub and a 'video room.' The video room seemed to be set up as an indoctrination center. The organization had the ability to produce its own videos. There appeared to be training areas for the children and what appeared to be an altar set up in a residential area of the warehouse. Many jars of urine and feces were located in this area.
Group leader Marion Pettie spoke in an interview in Steamshovel Press in 1998, noting that in World War II he kept house maintly to intelligence people in Washington and OSS people passing through.
Official US Customs investigation reports which have been completely authenticated by the investigating officers who wrote them and by a well respected investigator who personally knows these Customs officials are irrefutable evidence that:
- A case of obvious child neglect/abuse involving child pedophile sexual abuse/child pornography/Satanic cult ritualistic abuse wherein the perpetrators were caught directly in the act by law enforcement, arrested on the basis of irrefutable evidence at the scene, and faced serious charges which typically bring sentences of decades in prison.
- Search warrants were obtained for the "Finders" cult office in Washington, DC and a complete search was enacted by law enforcement which provided irrefutable pictures, movies and documents of such abuse/neglect evidence and access to the confidential arrest reports on the "Finders" cult from the arrests in Tallahassee which occurred only a day earlier (suggesting very high level connections to US intelligence in and of itself.)
- All investigation of the "Finders" cult by the FBI, US Customs and local law enforcement was ordered stopped by the US Justice Department on the grounds of "national security" and the matter of the "Finders" cult was turned over to the Central Intelligence Agency as an "internal security matter," since the "Finders" is and has been a domestic and international covert operation of the Central Intelligence Agency.
- Any and all investigation of the "Finders" was immediately stopped, all evidence was supressed and denied, and the abused children were released back to the adult perpetrators who had been arrested "in the act" and the CIA resumed its ongoing covert operation of the "Finders" cult which is used to procure and produce.
The story of the Finders cult is the story of the development of child/assets to be used to entrap politicians, diplomats; corporate and law enforcement officials; to sell child/victims to wealthy perverts to raise money for covert operations, to train some of the child/victims to be professional operatives and assassins of a totally cold, multiple personality, mind control nature.
To date only one media outlet has dared publish anything about this (US News).
In the last few years there have been more "smoking guns" proving that US intelligence agencies traffic in children, sell them and abuse them. Some of these covert operations have been tied to long term and massive importation, and distribution of narcotics into the US by the same iintelligence agencies.
Will continue to dig
Edit: what do you wanna bet this is one of the warehouses listed, it's ambiguous on what Gemini wrote but that address lines up perfect in Washington D Fuckin C
FOR LEASE: 1307 4th St NE DC Union Market warehouse - Industrious Realty
Two floors in the heart of Union Market. Perfect warehouse/retail/flex space for lease.
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