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HighwayStar said:
I hope Ty has caught wind about these mind games Phlegmoine is playing today. This sounds like somebody trying to hide a few skeletons in their closet.
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I mean Lemoinie got away with quite a bunch of stuff. I dunno what's holding him back, but to me it often looked like Ty let them have their cake, instead of fighting tooth and nails like they did. But I may be under the wrong impression.
 
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Much Ado About Nothing said:
Well is it though?

This needs to be thrown into your timeline:
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"A party seeking discovery by subpoena from a nonparty must serve, on the nonparty and all parties, a copy of the form of notice required under the rules governing the applicable form of discovery. A notice of oral or written deposition must be served before or at the same time that a subpoena compelling attendance or production under the notice is served. A notice to produce documents or tangible things under Rule 205.3 must be served at least 10 days before the subpoena compelling production is served. "

4. Rule 205.3(a) is modified as follows: "Notice; subpoena. A party may compel production of documents and tangible things from a nonparty by serving - a reasonable time before the response is due but no later than 30 days before the end of any applicable discovery period - the notice required in Rule 205.2 and a subpoena compelling production or inspection of documents or tangible things."

Are they even in discovery at this point? Is that what he is claiming.

I will not understand why he is still, attempting to get the deposition tomorrow, when his hearing to get this approved. Which it needs to be after all. A court need to review and okay it. Which , lets be honest, Chupp probably will cause he certainly doesn't read stuff from the plaintiff's side. It will not be a'oked until he does. So it will have to happen after the 7th....if we go by logic. This case doesn't really follow that however.

I do however agree with you on that it will likely be scheduled at some other point should it be given the green light to proceed.
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A subpoena for DOCUMENTS ONLY requires 10 days notice.
A subpoena for DOCUMENTS + DEPOSITION requires reasonable time. It's a stupid rule.

The 30 day deadline here is that non-party discovery has to be initiated 30 days before discovery ends. Discovery ends in a level 2 case (this is level 2) 9 months after discovery began (sometime in April, maybe?). That means the discovery deadline is January or so.

As far as I can tell, he just filed a copy the subpoena today. The date of filing isn't important for any rule; the rule just says a subpoena has to be filed before it's conducted. Haven't see a full copy of the document though.
 
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Something else I thought of. Chris, because he doesn't want to be deposed, can use his nonparty to his advantage. he could straight out threaten to request mandamus if Chupp allows certain privileged information through. it would piss Chupp off no doubt but what is he going to do, let it all through, get it overturned, and then get himself writted again? because that helps his stats and rep sooo much.
note: also, he does care about his reputation. note how he mentions the supreme court in that closed door meeting. he never mentions the writs and he gets extremely passive... almost as if them disagreeing with him and in such an obvious way bothers him. wonder if he gets jabbed at the country club over it?
 
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secondclass said:
A subpoena for DOCUMENTS ONLY requires 10 days notice.
A subpoena for DOCUMENTS + DEPOSITION requires reasonable time. It's a stupid rule.

The 30 day deadline here is that non-party discovery has to be initiated 30 days before discovery ends. Discovery ends in a level 2 case (this is level 2) 9 months after discovery began (sometime in April, maybe?). That means the discovery deadline is January or so.

As far as I can tell, he just filed a copy the subpoena today. The date of filing isn't important for any rule; the rule just says a subpoena has to be filed before it's conducted. Haven't see a full copy of the document though.
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Here is today's Lemoinisms
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Return of Service and DEPOSITION SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM of Chris Slatosch:
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I think it is generally read as a scare-tactic from Lemwah. He has pointed out he does not believe Slatosch to have an attorney. Proceeded to contact him by mail and phone afterwards, and get him to agree to a deposition, or they could it, as he put it in one of his first emails 'quietly'. Slatosch stopped replying after a while, probably on advice from an attorney or with legal-wit. Then afterwards he proceeded to belch out intent to file notice, notice of etc. Intenisfying in quanity and speed since 28th after BHBH decided to move to quash. Between accusations of perjury, lawfiling spam, and this time-pressure (aka desperation) it looks like harassment of a nonparty.

All these documents however are signed and dated by HIM, or his firm, back on the 22th,23th, and 24th. Yesterday alone he put in 4 somethings. He has requested a deposition, twice, for tomorrow, and in fact some in that document should have happened yesterday (he put it in today with same dates) and I don't know if that can be applied retroactively. Is he being exceptional by not changing any dates? or is this the norm?

He is also wanting a written hearing, which is a good choice by him, seeing that Chupp doesn't really read anything from the side of the plaintiff. He is however wanting this hearing 6 days after the date he has 'put' as deposition, which he wants tomorrow by 10:30. Since no judge has signed off on it, it can not be followed through on tomorrow. It also should not be followed through on tomorrow.

Discovery was stayed by the defendants when they put in a TCPA. So their lack of information and evidence is entirely self-imposed. They have been fighting discovery tooth and nail. In fact, Lemwah tried to convince Chupp to throw out the affadavits,but now he wants to use that 'weak lie terrible evidence' as a way to conduct discovery and mine for information on Stahlin, Huber, and Rekieta in addition to Slatosch himself.

Since the case is dismissed and pending possible appeal, does those rules still apply. You do have other options down below as well. In Chupp's own statements, he is allowing the defendants to submit evidence and briefing in support and award of attorneys fees etc. Since they halted discovery with their TCPA, they are now clawing at the opposing party's witnesses in quite a malicious way.

I do not know which of the below that applies to this case. I am not privvy to those details. I am also not knowledgable about law, but I am genuinely curious. Cause this mess has me intrigued. Is this still in affect when a case is in notice of appeal, and/or dismissed with prejudice?

(b) Limitations. Discovery is subject to the limitations provided elsewhere in these rules and to the following additional limitations:
(1) Discovery period. All discovery must be conducted during the discovery period, which begins when suit is filed and continues until:
(A) 30 days before the date set for trial, in cases under the Family Code; or

(B) in other cases, the earlier of
(i) 30 days before the date set for trial.

(ii) nine months after the earlier of the date of the first oral deposition or the due date of the first response to written discovery.
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Much Ado About Nothing said:
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He filed this today, it is just close to a carbon copy from the first notice of deposition thing he did a few days ago.
It will also be difficult to get approved.
Since he wants some of it to have happened yesterday before Slatosch got served.
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See category place.
He wanted this on the 30th Oct, at 5 pm
He served Slatoch on 30th Oct at 6:59 pm.
Wants the Deposition on 1st November at 10:30 am. There is a 30 business days notice when you serve a subpeona I believe (I am no lawman, pls correct me if I am wrong)
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I am not sure how he's gonna apply this retroactively.
The date and place he wanted in his last filing is also gone.
No 7th of November, written documents only, and in court BEFORE Judge Chupp.
We're back to Hilton Suites in Odessa. In person.
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I think Lemoine is just trying to confuse Chupp so Chupp just says "okay, whatever" to Lemoine.
 
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I'm getting caught up on a bunch of the WW threads and noticed that some posters are posting the same content with the same questions and the same conversation in multiple threads for no apparent reason. It's pages of the exact same content. Please try not to have the same conversation multiple times, it makes this forum even worse than it already is.

If you have something new to add or questions, look for a specific thread covering it. If one does not exist, either make a new thread or post here. Let's try and use our autism in a slightly organized fashion.
 
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xyz741 said:
And nothing of value was lost. Seriously, unless you have the position of "cosplay director" literally forced on you you're a diva jagoff that wants +ePeen from other diva jagoffs.
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Oh, but good god, where are they going to find a replacement "cosplay director" in time!? Is there a thirsty weeaboo in the house!?!?
 
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BrandedEagle said:
Something else I thought of. Chris, because he doesn't want to be deposed, can use his nonparty to his advantage. he could straight out threaten to request mandamus if Chupp allows certain privileged information through.
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If work-product applies, it isn't his to claim, but the attorney and party claiming it. He could claim the discovery is solely to harass him, that discovery is stayed, etc. BHBH/Ty/Vic could assert the same legal arguments, as well as work-product if it applies.

And of course, since Lemonparty has asserted, up front, that he is accusing Slatosch of a crime and expects him to confess to a crime for which he could be prosecuted if he testifies, he could take the Fifth on his own behalf as well. He could also file a bar complaint or criminal complaint that Lemoine is attempting to extort him with a false report of criminal activity to coerce false testimony from him. The likelihood of that succeeding is pretty meh, but it's at best borderline unethical what this piece of shit is doing.
 
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AnOminous said:
If work-product applies, it isn't his to claim, but the attorney and party claiming it. He could claim the discovery is solely to harass him, that discovery is stayed, etc. BHBH/Ty/Vic could assert the same legal arguments, as well as work-product if it applies.

And of course, since Lemonparty has asserted, up front, that he is accusing Slatosch of a crime and expects him to confess to a crime for which he could be prosecuted if he testifies, he could take the Fifth on his own behalf as well. He could also file a bar complaint or criminal complaint that Lemoine is attempting to extort him with a false report of criminal activity to coerce false testimony from him. The likelihood of that succeeding is pretty meh, but it's at best borderline unethical what this piece of shit is doing.
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someone should email lemoine a postcard with a picture of slatosch and the text "Suck my fifth amendment you east nile cracker".
 
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damian said:
Not really worth its own thread, but Vic is at my local mall.
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Line is short, it’s a weekday after all.
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You know that KV will take the last row of photos out of context.

ZombiU&Me said:
It really does seem like it on the surface, not even trying to meme here. He seems very desperate. I almost think he's trying to piss Chubb off enough to throw everything out and just want nothing to do with the case and then force even more time to be spent potentially finding a new judge and thus waste more time and money. Course this is me trying to find logic in something that seems illogical.
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Here is one issue that I am pretty preved about and that is the fact the people have to work around Chupp's Mood. What the fuck, he's a Judge and as one, people shouldn't worry about the smallest thing pissing him off. I know Judges are people too but the fact that he can't be as impartial as possible and stay focused just hows what a soyboy he is. If anything I think he's unfit to be one because he is neither diligent nor fair.
 
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Does AnimeAjay have one of those auto-blockers activated? I’m blocked from his account even though I’ve never commented on any of his posts.
 
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