Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Pokemonquistador2]

If the pro-Trans crowd are pinning their hopes on Jazz becoming the champion and exemplar of their movement, they're going to be mightily disappointed if he decides to 41 percent himself. Of course, they'll blame it all on unwelcoming transphobes instead of the rigors and bodily damage that accompany the transitioning process.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Jazz was at least apprised to the Narrative all along (albeit you can convincingly argue brainwashing by one really fucked up mom)

David had no clue what happened til later in life, along with being molested. He NEVER said he wanted to be a girl.

While it can be argued both were fooled, at least Jazz knew what the end result was supposed to be. Even tho it ended up being horrifying.

Neither is ok. It's ALL fucked up and sadly I think it will end the same for Jazz as it did for David.

Formatting is your friend.

And- I feel obliged to stress that this isn't a dig at you- this is dangerously close to "what if the child consents?" I see where you're coming from w/r/t Reimer being kept in the dark for years, but at the same time, three-year-old Jaron had no way of comprehending what he was actually being fed. In practical terms, there's no daylight between telling Jazz something and telling him nothing, because at that age he has no way of actually wrapping his brain around the reality of the situation. This is why this shit needs to be strictly limited to adults who can meaningfully consent, not kids who will go along with whatever makes mommy happy.

 

[Muttnik]

If the pro-Trans crowd are pinning their hopes on Jazz becoming the champion and exemplar of their movement, they're going to be mightily disappointed if he decides to 41 percent himself. Of course, they'll blame it all on unwelcoming transphobes instead of the rigors and bodily damage that accompany the transitioning process.

And the joke is that Jazz himself is so coddled and sheltered from trans-centered discrimination in the real world it's not even funny. Everywhere Jazz goes, he gets nothing but attention and shilling and a million flunkies at his beck and call along with fake friends to make every little moment about Jazz and Jazz's needs. Mom spends every waking moment grooming Jazz's entitlement, telling Jazz how strong and brave he is, even if it means totally neglecting her other kids in the process.

Any time the show shows "transphobes", it's 99.9% fake as a means of adding drama to the show. And even when people online have negative things to say about Jazz, most of the anger is directed at the parents with a large sense of pity towards Jazz's future and wellbeing. I don't think anyone legit holds any personal malice or ill will towards Jazz. I myself want what's best for him beyond what Mommy turned him into.

Not like anyone will acknowledge any of this if 41% happens, which I really hope it doesn't.

 

[Spastic Colon]

And the joke is that Jazz himself is so coddled and sheltered from trans-centered discrimination in the real world it's not even funny. Everywhere Jazz goes, he gets nothing but attention and shilling and a million flunkies at his beck and call along with fake friends to make every little moment about Jazz and Jazz's needs. Mom spends every waking moment grooming Jazz's entitlement, telling Jazz how strong and brave he is, even if it means totally neglecting her other kids in the process.

Any time the show shows "transphobes", it's 99.9% fake as a means of adding drama to the show. And even when people online have negative things to say about Jazz, most of the anger is directed at the parents with a large sense of pity towards Jazz's future and wellbeing. I don't think anyone legit holds any personal malice or ill will towards Jazz. I myself want what's best for him beyond what Mommy turned him into.

Not like anyone will acknowledge any of this if 41% happens, which I really hope it doesn't.

I don't hold out much hope for poor Jazz. He would face an uphill battle even without his "celebrity". His mother ruined his life by having all his life details blasted for the world to see. Even if he passed 100%, thanks to mom green-lighting a reality TV show, everyone will still know he is trans. Even if he gets away from his mother's control, people will still know who he is. And it only takes 1 nosy busybody to spread info about him to people who might not have seen the TV show. He'll never really escape it.

I hope I'm wrong and Jazz gets to live his life out of the spotlight and finds some happiness. Sadly, I do not think that is the most likely outcome.

 

[NerdShamer]

I don't hold out much hope for poor Jazz. He would face an uphill battle even without his "celebrity". His mother ruined his life by having all his life details blasted for the world to see. Even if he passed 100%, thanks to mom green-lighting a reality TV show, everyone will still know he is trans. Even if he gets away from his mother's control, people will still know who he is. And it only takes 1 nosy busybody to spread info about him to people who might not have seen the TV show. He'll never really escape it.

I hope I'm wrong and Jazz gets to live his life out of the spotlight and finds some happiness. Sadly, I do not think that is the most likely outcome.

Let's face it: No social skills, has one of Nurgle's used fleshlights in between his legs, is borderline bipolar, his troon friend gets triggered by loud noises (no prom, no great movies), doesn't really look like a breadwinner, and looks like an colorblind whore when he's in a dress with makeup.

Who would want to genuinely deal with this?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Let's face it: No social skills, has one of Nurgle's used fleshlights in between his legs, is borderline bipolar, his troon friend gets triggered by loud noises (no prom, no great movies), doesn't really look like a breadwinner, and looks like an colorblind whore when he's in a dress with makeup.

Who would want to genuinely deal with this?

There is also his scumbag of a mother who is always around.

 

[Whelp_Bai]

There is also his scumbag of a mother who is always around.

You think he'll gain some awareness and sue or break off from her at some point?

 

[Bani]

You think he'll gain some awareness and sue or break off from her at some point?

I'm thinking it will be an unending codependent relationship to rival that of Chris and Barb.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

You think he'll gain some awareness and sue or break off from her at some point?

I'm genuinely curious as well. Most people can only break out of this sort of shit once they hit rock-bottom, but maybe the dawning realization that everything he's spent his life building towards has only brought misery and pain will be that. Guess we'll find out.
If he doesn't break away though, he's probably gonna 41% himself when Jeanette snuffs it (if not sooner, of course.)

 

[MiniMuffin]

If he doesn't break away though, he's probably gonna 41% himself when Jeanette snuffs it (if not sooner, of course.)

Imagine what TLC etc would say if he did: “Jazz couldn’t stand all the transphobia in the world, particularly after she lost her mother who supported her and her transition so lovingly...”

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Imagine what TLC etc would say if he did: “Jazz couldn’t stand all the transphobia in the world, particularly after she lost her mother who supported her and her transition so lovingly...”

That's going to be the narrative when he dies, no matter how it happens. If he gives up, balloons to Wings of Redemption proportions, stops taking care of the stink ditch and dies of sepsis as a direct result, the narrative will be "those awful alt-right internet trolls drove our #StunningAndBrave daughter to this terrible place!" He could literally kill Jeanette, use her blood to write a six-page manifesto about how badly she fucked his life and how everything she told him was a lie, then suck-start a shotgun, and the usual gang of idiots would be wailing about "muh troonphobia." Seriously, what else do they got?

 

[Marvin]

I'm thinking it will be an unending codependent relationship to rival that of Chris and Barb.

Idk, I think their relationship is already more codependent than cwc and Barb. I mean, Chris drives to conventions in other states and books hotel rooms (or airbnbs) all by himself and leaves Barb at home. Somehow I think it'll be a long time before Jazz reaches that level of independence, if ever.

 

[NerdShamer]

Idk, I think their relationship is already more codependent than cwc and Barb. I mean, Chris drives to conventions in other states and books hotel rooms (or airbnbs) all by himself and leaves Barb at home. Somehow I think it'll be a long time before Jazz reaches that level of independence, if ever.

Plus, Chris has also managed to leech money out of his fans over the internet.

Jazz is essentially crying into his pillow, at this point.

 

[sperginity]

Formatting is your friend.

And- I feel obliged to stress that this isn't a dig at you- this is dangerously close to "what if the child consents?" I see where you're coming from w/r/t Reimer being kept in the dark for years, but at the same time, three-year-old Jaron had no way of comprehending what he was actually being fed. In practical terms, there's no daylight between telling Jazz something and telling him nothing, because at that age he has no way of actually wrapping his brain around the reality of the situation. This is why this shit needs to be strictly limited to adults who can meaningfully consent, not kids who will go along with whatever makes mommy happy.

When children "consent" or encourage things that are abusive and harmful they just end up feeling even more guilty and responsible than they would have otherwise. Ditto for kids who enjoyed an aspect of the abuse they suffered (like enjoying attention from an adult). Being against it or totally in the dark from day one can be validating, as I recall david immediately started living as a boy once the truth came out, and he could point a definite finger at the doctor that ruined his life. It didn't save him in the end, but it also spared him the confusion of trying to figure out if he was responsible for his own abuse or not. If jazz ever decides this was abuse or wrong it is going to be after a lot of second guessing himself. I have no idea if that will ever happen.

It was up to his parents to very clearly communicate to their son that you cannot actually change your sex. He was too young to understand that cartoons are not real when they affirmed his demand to be something that he can never really be.

 

[AnOminous]

It was up to his parents to very clearly communicate to their son that you cannot actually change your sex. He was too young to understand that cartoons are not real when they affirmed his demand to be something that he can never really be.

You're assuming he even ever made this demand and it wasn't completely manufactured by his severely mentally ill mother.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

This is why consent culture is so creepy. Convincing children they've consented to something is so easy that to spare kids from horrible situations, we literally just don't let that consent mean anything at all.

Most of the time the parents who say "oh, we don't do anything, even a diaper change, without the consent of our child" are crazy people who are planning on a lifetime of creepily manipulating children into saying they WANT to wear their car seat restraints and share their toys.

It's basically a reaction from the responsibility-avoidant, which is what the trans movement is by definition. As soon as your child is a "trans" child, you can abandon all attempts at real parenting, which sometimes sucks and requires you to be the bad guy to someone you love more than life.

Way too many parents in the current generation want their kids to worship them all the time, and will bribe them with anything imaginable to make sure the adoration the child had for them at age 2 lasts as long as possible. Last night, as my kids were trick-or-treating, I saw a chubby kid through a window who was easily 5-6 years old in a house, wearing a Pull-Up and nothing else, standing on a stepstool to watch a high-up TV with his sticky face touching the screen, while he was eating with a plastic spoon from a container of some kind of goop. He went to tell his mom there were trick or treaters, then stood at the fridge with the door open looking for more food.

I see it all the time now. Kids who haven't been told, ok, guess what, we're going to potty train. No, you can't stand on a stepstool and touch the TV with your face, disgusting, and we don't just stand around in the living room eating whatever snacks we want. I'm sure his mom would tell me he has "special needs" and just can't do any of that, but "special needs" seems like it's often code for "zero effort parenting."

Trans parenting is same shit, different day. Don't like telling your kid to change clothes when they look ridiculous? Or deciding on clothes for them? Do you still feel weird mommy guilt over choosing your child's name instead of them being able to choose their own? Want to let your kid set the agenda on your entire parenting future, while other parents are forced to admire you because any other choice would reveal their transphobic bigotry? Ask your doctor if a lifetime of broken bones and sterility is right for your child!

 

[NerdShamer]

You're assuming he even ever made this demand and it wasn't completely manufactured by his severely mentally ill mother.

Dude, his mom isn't the only one who has issues. It also falls on him for refusing to grow up and learning how to socialize, like a teenager running up to a kid if they like mermaids is pretty fucking weird.

 

[AnOminous]

Dude, his mom isn't the only one who has issues. It also falls on him for refusing to grow up and learning how to socialize, like a teenager running up to a kid if they like mermaids is pretty fucking weird.

He never had any chance to be normal and his entire world is controlled by that insane cunt. He might as well live in Jonestown for all the actual choice he has about his own life.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

I mean, Jeanette did effectively make him drink the Flavoraid Koolaid. If Jazz is somehow realizing what happened to him then it's far too late for him to do anything about it.

 

[Mako_Spark]

It's basically a reaction from the responsibility-avoidant, which is what the trans movement is by definition. As soon as your child is a "trans" child, you can abandon all attempts at real parenting, which sometimes sucks and requires you to be the bad guy to someone you love more than life.

Reminds me of Scientology, in a way. They don't believe in childhood - or rather, they believe children are complete souls who should have full autonomy and can make all their own decisions, even with education - and surprise, surprise, not many love studying math when it's just as acceptable to watch TV all day or paint pictures or whatever. It's actually an insidious way of keeping them in the cult, because they grow up illiterate with few employment prospects outside of staying in Scientology.

My former SIL was a high school principal in the LA united school district and every year she'd have a few ex-Scientology kids dumped on her by their parents who had finally left the cult - they'd be 15, 16, 17 and couldn't write their own names and reacted with shock or even violence towards any discipline, because they'd always been allowed to do whatever they wanted. Not surprisingly, I can't remember a story where it all turned out great...