YABookgate

[SnarkySperg]

Well, considering that what I gleaned from that book is that “genderqueer” means “I’m gonna dress and behave exactly like a guy, and have no gender dysphoria from doing so. Then just tell people to call me ‘they’ because reasons”. I’m not surprised people are doing this.

I mean, yeah. That's kinda what genderqueer and nonbinary is. I'm following someone on Insta who apparently identifies as nonbinary but in the photo she posted announcing it, she is definitely a woman. She's wearing a dress, her hair is long, and nobody on God's green earth is going to think she's androgynous. But call her 'they' or you're transphobic. Never mind that they rarely make an effort to transition. They're still transgender, somehow.

 

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One of these nutjobs encounters Stephen King:

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So, she knows exactly why these words were used and is pissy anyway.

How does it take anywhere near a day to read a Steven King book? Even The Stand and IT are only like a thousand pages long, right, in big type? Four-five hours max.

Lars Ulrich is still here. Napster isn't.

True. He still made an ass of himself, especially considering Metallica used to have sections at shows specifically for people to come in and do bootleg recordings.

It's a pity that tradition is dead, but the reality is that in the age of the internet noone could really carry on allowing that, except extreme edge cases like the big jam bands (Phish and post-Garcia Dead-successors) where they made all their money building up a hardcore fanbase that would come out to any concert in a few hundred miles. Others depended too much on album sales. They couldn't allow accurate recordings to be released online. To make it even less enticing, weren't Metallica notorious around that time for having serious trouble just rendering their songs accurately live- the direct opposite of the Dead?

Lars did nothing wrong.. for his pocketbook.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Who Gave You the Right to Tell That Story?
Ten authors on the most divisive question in fiction, and the times they wrote outside their own identities.

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This gave me a chuckle, until my eyes started glazing over. Not exactly YA, but close enough for government work. Won't bother doing the copy/paste thing, because it goes on about as long as the Korean War, though is far less interesting. Archive gagged on digesting this, so the alternate link is outline.com. Figured it didn't rate its own thread, but seemed a decent fit here.

Two of the outstanding bon mots:

I didn’t read enough literature featuring blind people to really understand it’s a thing that gets done over and over again. Ehiru, a character from The Killing Moon, is asexual, and I don’t think I explored that well. If I were writing it now, I would have made him more clearly ace. I figured this out by reading Tumblr. I am on Tumblr quietly — I have a pseudonym, and nobody knows who I am. Because lots of young people hang out there and talk about identity and the way our society works, it’s basically a media-criticism lab.

But the other thing I had to do was really search my own background. As a white kid growing up in Baltimore in the early ’90s, just totally obsessed with hip-hop, saturated in the golden era of Public Enemy and De La Soul — how did that affect my identity as a young person? And how did it shape me later, when I went to college, where I was effectively told that I had to forget that side of myself?

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

How does it take anywhere near a day to read a Steven King book? Even The Stand and IT are only like a thousand pages long, right, in big type? Four-five hours max.

I don’t know about that, I mean the audiobook for IT is like forty hours long or something. The person who wrote that review said they listened to it sped up really fast.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Honestly, if you are a young adult or a teen, you shouldn't read YA novels. You should either read books like Redwall and LoTR (if you are on the younger side) or more historical fiction/ nonfiction stories if you are older. The Young adult section in the library has always been shit. It's just now that it's more apparent now that it's been infested by #RESIST types.

Read Naked Lunch and skip all the bullshit.

 

[AnOminous]

Who Gave You the Right to Tell That Story?

How is that even a question? Fuck you is who gave me the right.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

How is that even a question? Fuck you is who gave me the right.

You wanna write a left-handed lesbian Armenian trombone player? By god, you better be a left-handed lesbian Armenian trombone player!

 

[Mola Ram]

How is that even a question? Fuck you is who gave me the right.

I want this blasted in letters four feet high smack down the middle of every publishing house in NYC.

 

[SnarkySperg]

Nobody gets to tell me what I get to write about. Nobody gets to tell anyone what to write. If you think the 'representation' is all wrong, write it yourself. You do it better if you think it's so bad. Oh wait, there's a reason you just complain about it on Twitter all day instead of doing it yourself.

 

[Slowboat to China]

Y'know, I've written several books about murder, and I've never actually killed anyone IRL. Clearly, I'm not doing my research properly or truly attempting to engage with the underserved, misunderstood PoM (Person of Murder) community in America. I should go kill someone so I can really understand my subject matter.

... or I could use my fucking imagination, like every other writer in the history of humanity.

"Who Gave You the Right to Tell That Story?"

Shit like this really makes me Mad on the Internet.

 

[AbyssStarer]

They really just want all the books they publish to be like those Olympics stories where they go against all the odds and go on to tell their story after winning a medal. Can't find anything to read at all anymore unless its a classic.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

They should try telling that to the yaoi fangirls writing all of that gay fan fiction smut that takes up like 60% of all fiction writings on the Internet. They'll either change their tune very fast so as to keep their fap material (and their heads) safe while exposing themselves as the degenerate faggots they truly are, or the number of gay smut drops into the toilet as the Internet trembles in exalted release from the toxic waste passing through.

 

[Pomniman]

Oh good, I found the thread. We can walk down memory lane together.

Skimming the thread now, I wasn't expecting Josh to personally post the scene in question on the third page, but I suppose someone had to do it sooner or later.

Anyway, regarding YA and the endless purity spiraling associated with it, the current state of affairs is the logical conclusion of the publishing practices that popularized it in the first place. Agents, publishers, and authors pretty much systemically selected for the most priggish and developmentally-arrested readers they could find in creating the YA market.

 

[mindlessobserver]

They really just want all the books they publish to be like those Olympics stories where they go against all the odds and go on to tell their story after winning a medal. Can't find anything to read at all anymore unless its a classic.

Eh it's out there if you look. Especially in the indy scene. Hell, a bunch of amateur authors came together to build a wiki around an obscure YouTube Channels playthrough of the game Stellaris, and now people are thinking about writing full length novels about "The Greater Terran Union".

Stellaris Invicta Wiki

In the next few days, the Templin Institute will be taking a more direct involvement in cleaning up this wiki. At present, there has been too much "fan fiction" that contradicts the "canon" of the story. This will necessitate drastically cutting down the content on a number of pages. - Marc In...

stellarisinvicta.fandom.com

Honestly even I find the story fascinating. The quick tl;dr is in the 21st century the earth is invaded by a swarm of omnivore aliens intent on killing and eating everything. But after a brutal war that involved widespread use of nuclear weapons and all but destroying the biosphere in the process, humanity won and was united under a meritocratic but firmly authoritarian and xenophobic government, that used captured alien tech to propel it to the stars.

And the story just unfolded from there in a logical fashion where after centuries the Terran Union ends up saving the galaxy and having to confront the contradictions in it's own philosophies to do it. I mention this because it's a story publishers would never allow to be told outside a niche IP like 40k. And worse? One where it is NOT thinly veiled satire? Oh no no no.

 

[SnarkySperg]

They should try telling that to the yaoi fangirls writing all of that gay fan fiction smut that takes up like 60% of all fiction writings on the Internet. They'll either change their tune very fast so as to keep their fap material (and their heads) safe while exposing themselves as the degenerate faggots they truly are, or the number of gay smut drops into the toilet as the Internet trembles in exalted release from the toxic waste passing through.

I mean, #ownvoices is a thing now.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

BRB, going out to commit some genocide so that I can write a WW2 novel.

 

[Puddleduck]

I mean, #ownvoices is a thing now.

There was recently a pitching event called #DVPit, where only "diverse" people are allowed to enter...

 

[SnarkySperg]

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw...ox/article/81635-we-need-diverse-editors.html
Ugh.

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[Kari Kamiya]

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw...ox/article/81635-we-need-diverse-editors.html
Ugh.

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Holy shit my sides.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw...ox/article/81635-we-need-diverse-editors.html
Ugh.

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But, only if they think the 'right' things. Diversity of thought doesn't matter, especially not in art.