Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

The farms have the bomb, the real question is, how can it successfully be drop?
Short clickbaity video that flows like a movie trailer with jokes and puns (think "honest trailers")

This is Funimation.
At first glance, it's nothing but a small business translating japanese cartoons for the american audience.
But if you start digging... *infamous inception horn sound effect*
 
I'm curious as to what their "independent research" process was. Cause the farms did their own independent research and we couldn't find any credible sources for any of the shit Vic has supposedly done. For all his time in the american anime scene, the worst things written about Vic were relegated to forums, tumblrs, and other blogs. At worst was ANN giving him shit for being Christian.

I am very late on this, but you have to remember that ALAB are Internet-based leftists. What you described are, to such persons, credible sources much of the time.

Remember that if you check polls on media trust, Democrats trust the media much more than any other group. This kind of I-trust-sources-that-favor-my-viewpoint phenomenon is in play here.
 
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I am very late on this, but you have to remember that ALAB are Internet-based leftists. What you described are, to such persons, credible sources much of the time.

Remember that if you check polls on media trust, Democrats trust the media much more than any other group. This kind of I-trust-sources-that-favor-my-viewpoint phenomenon is in play here.
Anyone know if that also has age stats? I’ve heard boomers trust the media more.
 
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That would be a massive shock to their system because they know have to deal with the dilemma of either calling out Jaime as a sick cunt or accept the SJW mantra and dismiss the truth in favor of hollow ideals that makes them feel safe in their little hugbox. Shipping it in form the normies can understand is one thing, it's another thing entirely to attract enough attention to that kind of evidences that would fuck over Jamie more than rape itself. If the majority will accept the truth that Jaime is a scumfuck liar that in a way that normie can understand without MSM or KV interfering with the message Jamie is DONE!

The farms have the bomb, the real question is, how can it successfully be drop?
Are you suggesting we organize and carry out a public relations campaign? Become the Kiwi Farms Trust and Safety team to challenge the media narrative and promote the value of our investigative journalism?

This takes more than one person, it requires effort over time. There needs to be a media schedule, there needs to be coordination across multiple platforms, there needs to be communication with journalists to help them understand the significance of facts and make sure they get the story right. Most importantly - it can't be just a bunch of white males or the story is just treated as trolling.

Tempted. Would love to take some of the load off the back of YouTubers, they are not prepared to fight the media.
If anything, go to Hero Hei or someone who’s probably “hated for wrong opinions”. For MSM, shit like Time’s Up and #MeToo is like catnip to them.
YouTubers speak to a certain audience. The broader audience - normies - won't watch because they believe they are being monitored for wrongthink. They know there's a cost to standing up for something and are scared to speak the truth.

Media is strange, there needs to be a trail of breadcrumbs someone follows leading to a single, irrefutable conclusion. If that trail leads to these organizations and exposes a greater truth, that's when it gets big.

Vic was absolutely defamed and we have evidence of TI. Those are facts. Nick, HH, TUG, YF, etc can yell about it all they want but they are never going to reach the mainstream. At some point, they are just going to get shut down - Dick Masterson lost his payment processor yesterday after Discover demanded it goes away. This absolutely has something to do with Time's Up, they go for the low hanging fruit first. We will be hearing about channel strikes and deplatforming next.
 
Remember: these people are making me miss 4Kids dubbing. 4Kids!
Nothing wrong with 4Kids. Most of the things they fucked with were badly written/shit to start with (only YGO and One Piece have actual merit and are worth going hoes mad over; Sonic X is terrible garbage and anyone who hates 4kids because of kuso like Sonic X or even worse, Tokyo Mew Mew should be laughed at); like the FUNi dubs with ebin political jokes, but with timeless "so bad its good" rather than dating itself immediately.
 

Here's a follow up tweet to Chuck making $12,000 at Funimation.

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https://archive.ph/mIqTh

Chuck's sudden interest in Peace & Love PR wouldn't have anything to do with someone at Funimation maybe pressuring conventions into not inviting him in 2020?

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https://archive.ph/0PB16

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Because they are the ones that keep on poking the bear instead of trying to find peace. And I mean actual peace not Monica's version of peace that just means blocking everybody and staying in her safe space. And what they could've found peace with Vic but they didn't want that especially Marchi who legit said she didn't care what happened to Vic because "he's a monster" (a tweet she actually had to delete). Monica with her fake personality screams that she only wanted Vic to get help when proof is there that she didn't.
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Nigga, he paid over 30,000 of security just to protect Monica and other guests and she still left. He even promoted her little signing place for her.
And calling her signing event a success is a stretch. If I remember correctly, she got enough money that would cover how much she paid for "security". Breaking even is not a gain.
 
This is the core of why Chuck wants to "heal the community" because he's seen first hand that many of his "bosses" aren't happy. He's gone the direction he has because there's more voice actors on the KV side than the ISWV side. I wouldn't be shocked if personally he doesn't think Vic should be booted from the industry, but if he has to choose between money in his pocket or money in Vic's he's choosing his. You can argue that it is possible for him to have money in his pocket and Vic having money in his, but KV is going pretty scorched earth on Vic and at this moment in time, the KV side looks safer.

If Chuck was smart, he'd talk to Shane behind the scenes just so he can ream him out in public, since Shane is all too eager to antagonize the ISWV side. The biggest proof to me that Chuck is a dumbass is that he's not calling Shane out for his shit, simply because the community isn't going to heal while Shane keeps sperging out. I totally believe it's possible (if unlikely) that all the voice actors can simmer behind the scenes while fans are blissfully ignorant, but Shane is stupid enough to think he can profit off the controversy right now (by holding con events directly about it), which is idiotic. Mainly because a lot of the virtue signallers don't want to throw money at the problem, they just want to give their emotional support and social media likes.
 
Well, remember how Juliet Simmons / JubyPhonic? Well, I found this fucking KickVic shit in her likes: https://twitter.com/Shake_Well/status/1191744228470218752

Here's the link if you don't believe me: https://twitter.com/JubyPhonic_P/likes

FUCK. I guess it shouldn't surprise me, considering her likes show several instances of her drinking SJW Kool-Aid, but still...
Although this doesn't seem important, always archive tweets. And make sure to screenshot so that it becomes clear the person actually liked the tweet you're talking about.

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You know, that “for the fans” thing is pretty much what Vic has been preaching for months now.

My thoughts: Some of it might be Lemon. We know how much he likes to pimp his West Nile story, so somebody like Sharon helped Mosquito Man play the connections game. Making this a #MeToo thing is what KV believes will drive the final stake into Vic to destroy him for good. As for Jamie, she’s probably thinking she’s home free and she’s looking to get Operation Broken Staircase up and running again, assuming it’ll be much easier since Vic is the most resistance a VA will probably give and KV and the Threadnaught can catch Nick and Ty in a bind of hypocrisy.
ha. no. travis willingham will be the toughest one. it'll be like trying to storm buckingham palace with only a handgun.
to clarify you think anime fans love vic? critical role fans are goddamn zealots for the main cast. the moment they go for him, they are fucked. worse, critical role is big enough that they can out PR these harpies. not to mention there are plenty of woman and metoo woman in production of the show and part of the show that the usual tactics simply won't work.
 
Read somewhere on twitter that NPR reached out to Ty and he refused to comment. Maybe him actually saying at least something would have helped. Just something symbolical like "Would you want to live in a world where your husband's/son's/brother's future could be ruined by allegations alone?". Maybe that could have resonated a little bit with boomers. I'm not sure if staying silent while letting the defendants run amok in the mainstream media is a good idea. The average person isn't going to watch Nick's streams or Hero Hei's videos. As you pointed out, they're probably just going to believe everything they hear in the media.

Andy Signore did regret not releasing information because it could have kept the PR side controlled. But it would mean surrendering a legal advantage.

Most of the news outlets have been leftist so their audience wouldn't be receptive to whatever Ty says.

If Vic wanted to do a PR battle he would be best served by hiring an actual PR firm.

She hasn't slept with anyone. Her attorney connected to the Time's Up movement, they work as a clearinghouse for cash, public relations, and political clout. The value of their efforts is immense and goes largely unchallenged since the social cost would include being labelled a misogynist.

I saw the note she presented as evidence and thought it was manufactured. The name used sounds like something she came up with herself. Would love to locate a handwriting sample for comparison.

Jamie is playing a tight game here, public sentiment could turn against her were actual facts to receive proper attention. As much as she benefits from the money, Time's Up benefits from being able to credibly claim they are helping an innocent in need. It would be very unfortunate were it to turn out they backed a lying, deceitful monster who simply hates men. Would love to see this become a stick in their eye.

There's video to contradict some of her claims, there's her own words in Discord servers wishing for children to be sexually assaulted. While the media avoids applying a critical eye to people claiming to be victims of assault, there are other ways of sharing information to get the same result. Looking at the SEO scores related to her name and anime roles, there's a clear path to dominate the digital space for anyone looking just using search engines. Then there's social media, some of her actions are certainly memeable. Then there's free press release services, put out enough announcements and someone is going to pick them up.

Kiwis have done enough investigative reporting on her the last 10 months, there's a fortune of research in this forum. It needs to be packaged and shipped in a form that normies can understand.

Nick still has that Sabat video to make. Jamie is going to lose that credibility real quick.

Of course Sabat was going to be next so this whole mess is going to bite him in the ass.

And whatever other skeletons that are waiting to be dragged out.
 
ha. no. travis willingham will be the toughest one. it'll be like trying to storm buckingham palace with only a handgun.
to clarify you think anime fans love vic? critical role fans are goddamn zealots for the main cast. the moment they go for him, they are fucked. worse, critical role is big enough that they can out PR these harpies. not to mention there are plenty of woman and metoo woman in production of the show and part of the show that the usual tactics simply won't work.
Curious because I was thinking about asking Travis in a DM about his thoughts on Vic and the shit he's in right now.

However given how Liam O'Brien has Drunk the TDS kool-aid I'd say it's a 50/50 chance of them going nuts on each other, heard somewhere here that Matt Mercer's wife Marisha Ray is woke.
 
Although this doesn't seem important, always archive tweets. And make sure to screenshot so that it becomes clear the person actually liked the tweet you're talking about.

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Thanks for that. I had couldn't archive the likes page, and I forgot to screenshot it.
 
ha. no. travis willingham will be the toughest one. it'll be like trying to storm buckingham palace with only a handgun.
to clarify you think anime fans love vic? critical role fans are goddamn zealots for the main cast. the moment they go for him, they are fucked. worse, critical role is big enough that they can out PR these harpies. not to mention there are plenty of woman and metoo woman in production of the show and part of the show that the usual tactics simply won't work.
I don’t know what critical role is or is supposed to be? Also, hasn’t it been established that Vic is an island of alpha in a sea of soy? Him going to court in the first place is going against the grain in a #MeToo situation.
 
I don’t know what critical role is or is supposed to be? Also, hasn’t it been established that Vic is an island of alpha in a sea of soy? Him going to court in the first place is going against the grain in a #MeToo situation.
Tbf, Willingham knocked up his wife, so he has that going for him.

Incidentally, who knew that AMVs could predict the future?

 
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