Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Jaimas]

If you ever see stories about someone shooting the other side's lawyer, shooting their own lawyer, shooting a judge, or even the judge himself shooting someone, or just shooting up a courtroom in general, it's nearly invariably in family court.

I'd believe it. I ever tell you about what happened to an old friend of mine?

Spoiler: Holy Shit

I have a friend who, a few years ago, had his son kidnapped by his ex (they weren't divorced yet) and she fled the state. Law enforcement was no help whatsoever and he wound up having to hire a private investigator to track her ass down and get his son back, as well as formally file divorce screenings.

You would think, that given that she committed several felonies, violated an order of protection, wound up in a protracted standoff with local police, and the fact that my friend was the one who was actually taking care of his son prior to this horror-show, this would be a pretty open and shut case. Well, you'd be right, because it was - but in her favor. The Judge basically shelved all evidence and ignored everything because his ex cried a lot, awarding her full custody of their son and ordering him to pay alimony (despite her earning roughly four times his salary) for good measure.

The judge wouldn't even read the police reports, or even hear the testimony of one of the cops involved. It was a fucking botch. Thus began a nearly 2-year string of trials before this absolute abomination of a ruling was overturned by someone who actually gave a shit, the alimony was cancelled, and his son back where he belonged. Fucking ridiculous that it came to that and anyone who has zero faith in the system is completely within their rights to do so.

 

[Spectre_06]

Yeah, I like Ty as a person. He seems to be a good dude and a good dad. When I'm critiquing Ty I'm obviously criticizing his abilities as a lawyer, not him as a person. That should go without saying.

I'd criticize Ty's handling of the case once Lemoine's....exceptionalism....kicked in. Ty was obviously expecting lawyers who were taking it seriously, and that's why even with the stupid shit Casey pulled Ty never pushed for sanctions, and was rather understanding throughout the entire ordeal. Once Lemoine showed up, I think it threw Ty off his game and we've had the cavalcade of comedy thus far. That's not to excuse it, but it certainly seems like Ty's lack of litigation experience, coupled with his failure to realize that, yes, people like Lemoine do exist and you have to deal with them (can't completely fault him there) overwhelmed him. When it comes to doing lawyer things for companies and trusts and the like he seems top-notch. Let's hope the lawyers they've pulled on so far (and are rumored to be coming on as well) can unfuck what we see right now.

 

[INVCTS]

I'm not sure this belongs here, but Nick has a summary of the hearing.

Mignogna LAWSUIT! Hearing RESULTS for Slatosch Deposition| Rekieta Law

Mignogna Update! Today was a hearing for the Deposition of Chris Slatosch and Vic's counter-motion for sanctions. The update is short and sweet, with a littl...

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[teriyakiburns]

I'm not sure this belongs here, but Nick has a summary of the hearing.

Mignogna LAWSUIT! Hearing RESULTS for Slatosch Deposition| Rekieta Law

Mignogna Update! Today was a hearing for the Deposition of Chris Slatosch and Vic's counter-motion for sanctions. The update is short and sweet, with a littl...

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It belongs.

As I said on nick's thread, Chupp has at least been consistent here. Consistently lazy.

And as I said:

It doesn't need to be explored. The judge ruled and settled the matter as far as the court is concerned. All Lemoine should be filing now is a motion for fees and requests for sanctions, not trying to litigate a potential criminal case against Ty and Vic via Slatosch.

 

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Summary of the video:

• Slatosch deposition was denied. No concrete reason it sounds like, but the stance seems to have been that Chupp thinks discovery is over.
• BHBC's request for sanctions against Lemonfurher was denied. Nick said this was a long shot but DOES create precident in the judge's mind. Basically, this is the professional way of a law firm pointing out the other side are being fuckwits.
• Chupp didn't seem to think Ty would be deposed, either.
• Chupp flat out pointed out that Lemonfurher doesn't appear very confident that he'll win appeals
• Nick pointed out that legal teams don't tend to join cases they expect to lose, so the new team joining BHBC suggests that the case isn't as bad as LawTwitter expects.
• ... And one of the lawyers that think Vic has a case might be Chupp, based on what he said to Lemonfurher.

As an aside, when did Silvr_Slatosch delete his twitter?

https://twitter.com/silvr_slatosch?lang=en

It's still google cached, so it must have been recently.

 

[Markorian]

Well, at the very least, we can tell that Chupp is just lazy, rather than having some sort of bias specifically against Vic. If appeals go well, that should bode well for the actual trial, as Chupp giving the defendants exactly what they want would no longer be the most expedient way to rid himself of the case.

 

[HighwayStar]

It belongs.

As I said on nick's thread, Chupp has at least been consistent here. Consistently lazy.

And as I said:

Yeah, but one thing that stood out was when Nick was told about what Judge Chupp said to Phlegmoine. That being? “You don’t seem confident about these appeals”.

 

[Much Ado About Nothing]

Yeah, but one thing that stood out was when Nick was told about what Judge Chupp said to Phlegmoine. That being? “You don’t seem confident about these appeals”.

Judge Chupp ordered mediation AFTER a (partial?) dismissal or smth (I'm tired, can't recall them fine details).
This is an odd thing to do, since by then you made up your mind,and sort of issues a ruling on the topic. It does make sense however, if you later read up the details and realized you did a massive mistake and know it will end up in appeals and and back on your table. Then you have to suffer trough West-Nile again.....

But I do enjoy Chupp's casual commentary, if this is his words, to Lemwah. I do think it will be entirely lost on him at the moment. His ego has grown quite a lot, to the point he looks rabid.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

• Chupp flat out pointed out that Lemonfurher doesn't appear very confident that he'll win appeals

So Chupp not only knows that Ty is appealing, but I get the feeling he didn't really sound emotional about it either. Do judges just not give a shit when their rulings are appealed? I feel like you should give at least a tiny shit when someone says that you're wrong.

 

[Garm]

Yeah, but one thing that stood out was when Nick was told about what Judge Chupp said to Phlegmoine. That being? “You don’t seem confident about these appeals”.

I like to think Lemoine peed a little at that.

Chupp also seems to be saying, "Hey, remember when I sent you to mediation solve this like God damned adults? When I told you that the appeals court likes to over turn my rulings? And you didn't take that fucking advice you idiot?"

So Chupp not only knows that Ty is appealing, but I get the feeling he didn't really sound emotional about it either. Do judges just not give a shit when their rulings are appealed? I feel like you should give at least a tiny shit when someone says that you're wrong.

Chupp has several marks against him from the court of appeals. He is more or less guessing and let's the appeals court clean up his messes.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

So Chupp not only knows that Ty is appealing, but I get the feeling he didn't really sound emotional about it either. Do judges just not give a shit when their rulings are appealed? I feel like you should give at least a tiny shit when someone says that you're wrong.

Why would you get upset when you know that no matter what you say one side is going to appeal.

I think he just sliced everything against Vic to err on the side of caution.

 

[Much Ado About Nothing]

I like to think Lemoine peed a little at that.

Chupp also seems to be saying, "Hey, remember when I sent you to mediation solve this like God damned adults? When I told you that the appeals court likes to over turn my rulings? And you didn't take that fucking advice you idiot?"

You know what would be fun?
If Chupp not only sent them to mediation cause he realized he made a mistake that someone would flog him for.
But also, wasn't there something he said about 'healing the community' that has been MoRonica, Koochi, and Funi's mantra all along.
And then they didn't....

Wonder if he'll use it against them at some point.

 

[HighwayStar]

I like to think Lemoine peed a little at that.

Chupp also seems to be saying, "Hey, remember when I sent you to mediation solve this like God damned adults? When I told you that the appeals court likes to over turn my rulings? And you didn't take that fucking advice you idiot?"



Chupp has several marks against him from the court of appeals. He is more or less guessing and let's the appeals court clean up his messes.

Yeah, that comment has got to be a huge blow to Phlegmoine’s ego. I love it.

 

[RodgerDodger]

So Chupp not only knows that Ty is appealing, but I get the feeling he didn't really sound emotional about it either. Do judges just not give a shit when their rulings are appealed? I feel like you should give at least a tiny shit when someone says that you're wrong.

TCPA is ALWAYS Appealed. It's literally baked in. It's part of what makes TCPA an absolutely awful law. It's supposed to streamline court proceedings and weed out obvious bullshit. Instead it triples the workload and expense for all involved. All while denying legitimately aggrieved parties their fair day in court.

 

[TexOffender]

TCPA is ALWAYS Appealed. It's literally baked in. It's part of what makes TCPA an absolutely awful law. It's supposed to streamline court proceedings and weed out obvious bullshit. Instead it triples the workload and expense for all involved. All while denying legitimately aggrieved parties their fair day in court.

Seriously, if the warchest was smaller chupp could have killed everything.

 

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So Chupp not only knows that Ty is appealing, but I get the feeling he didn't really sound emotional about it either. Do judges just not give a shit when their rulings are appealed? I feel like you should give at least a tiny shit when someone says that you're wrong.

It's my understanding the only thing that will get a Judge emotional is the chance they might be sanctioned or disbarred or censured or whatever it's called. Ty and Nick have shared a story where a new judge was panicked about messing up, and asked an older judge. "Did you do anything to get censured?" "... No?" "Then it doesn't matter."

 

[Harvey Danger]

So Chupp not only knows that Ty is appealing, but I get the feeling he didn't really sound emotional about it either. Do judges just not give a shit when their rulings are appealed? I feel like you should give at least a tiny shit when someone says that you're wrong.

I think he didn't give a shit about this particular case getting appealed. I don't think Chupp is dumb, he's just lazy. Throwing everything out sounds like intentionally trying to get a cleaned cause back from the appeals court, instead of trying to figure out complicated burden-shifting and multiple standards of evidence and the 5 step process, etc.

If he already chose "kill it all and let COA sort it out", there's no reason to get upset about an appeal.

(To be fair, it took multiple Nick streams and months of KF autism before we understood WTF was supposed to happen on TCPA. Chupp didn't have a nice easy explanation to learn about the process; he had the defense's spergery, and BHBH's arguments weren't laid out in "TCPA For Dummies" fashion. I fault Ty for that more than for the evidence binder nonsense.)

 

[FGO-Professor-P2PBTW]

To be honest it just sounds like Chupp is being a lazy ass. He probably just denied both motions because appeals are coming, not because he actually read it through and thinks there are reasons to deny both motions. Basically, the move that required the least effort was to simply deny both motions, and that's what he did. Also, on Chupps little comment, remember when he made that snide remark to Casey about Ron being on Twitter? That ended up being a nothing burger, so anything that Chupp says that isn't an effective order I'm taking with a grain of salt.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

To be honest it just sounds like Chupp is being a lazy ass. He probably just denied both motions because appeals are coming, not because he actually read it through and thinks there are reasons to deny both motions. Basically, the move that required the least effort was to simply deny both motions, and that's what he did. Also, on Chupps little comment, remember when he made that snide remark to Casey about Ron being on Twitter? That ended up being a nothing burger, so anything that Chupp says that isn't an effective order I'm taking with a grain of salt.

I don't think anyone was ever expecting anything to come of him asking if Ron ever got off twitter (at least to my knowledge). This little quip at least shows that Chupp is observant in the courtroom, even if he isn't so much when looking over the record leading up to the hearing.

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

Cross posting because this is a free country. So does that make Youtubers public figures?

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