Horrorcow Kristina Paige Klein / Krissy Klein / Klein Journey of Hope - Fundie Christian mom, turns her daughters into frankendolls with repeated brain surgeries, either MbP or worst case of taking dr's advice ever

[large_farva]

The robinetts are very close orbiters and they are probably just as fooled as most others. I doubt they think Krissy is anything other than a saint.
Sarah has the bow shop( peach parlor) and that's how she heard of Krissy in the first place.

Remember, the Robinetts made a non-profit for donations for pretty much only the Kleins, at that point, Sarah and Krissy had not yet met in person. They were friends online and all their communication was over the phone/chat/text, Remember, they also own a consulting firm. Would making a non-profit (that costs $400 to register right?) be worth it to make a LARGE tax deductible donation from the Robinett consulting firm? Maybe they needed a big write-off? It looks like they gave the Kleins $8000 for the genetic testing and the money to go to NY for more surgery for H. I'm guessing it was over $10,000. If that's what went down, and with the way that played out, I can't come up with a better explanation for such a large donation through a non-profit that was just thrown away after the big chunk of cash went to krissy.

And that kid is still on the elevator gofundme is STILL UP.

 

[Punkinsplice]

So her kids' problems are food refusal for one, frequent colds and ambiguous mental health issues for another, headaches for another, and frequent peepee pants/bedwetting for another.

Definitely sounds like a family that should need constant funding and surgeries.

I'm becoming more convinced something sexually sinister is happening in the house. Nearly all of those four children's complaints (everything except the colds) are things that sexual abuse victims sometimes present with. I wonder if invasive tests and surgeries are used to keep them in line for abusive purposes, i.e. refusal to comply with abuser demands is met with more searching for surgically-correctable issues. Threatening psych ward commitment for refusal to comply was a common tactic for sexual abusers for a long time, threatening them with dangerous, scarring brain surgery if they try to get out of daddy's special friday nights by saying they have a headache one more time sounds like the dystopian nightmare update to that scenario.

This goes double because of the times they've fled states when doctors started prying too much. That's honestly extreme for most munchies, but par for the course for horror-house abusers.

Perhaps the abuse that causes the symptoms is the medical "abuse" that the parents are having docs perform by proxy. The kids are old enough to suspect something, but the fear of further medical interventions or whatever mom does to create some of these symptoms is what creates those signs of possible sexual abuse that you mention. What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that living like that is scary enough to create bed wetting, headaches, anxiety, (PTSD for Chrissakes) and more. So there is no need to suspect sexual abuse when there is already enough horror in that house to explain these symptoms. Also, the amount of medical intervention for these kids is so extreme and invasive that I wonder if the resulting trauma can be similar to that of sexual abuse. Sorry if I talk in circles. Kinda late here.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Yeah, could totally be. I've just seen too much creepiness from families who like the "living doll" look for their kids. Gives me the fucking creeps.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Can anyone explain why more of their doctors aren’t suspicious of their situation?

 

[Sperghetti]

Can anyone explain why more of their doctors aren’t suspicious of their situation?

Because, ironically, the best and most complete medical record for a munchie seems to be their social media profile. And a doctor isn’t going to see that, so it’s going to take them longer to figure out what the whole picture is, since their patient is feeding them a pile of lies from their first appointment.

Unfortunately, munchies don’t usually give them long enough to do that, because they’re out the door and off to see another one as soon as they aren’t getting the answer they want.

 

[Barbarella]

Where did we get the idea that her husband is a radiologist?

Their moving so quickly belies that, plus she knows nothing about the order of simple things, which she could ask him. Finally, a search doesn’t come up with a Zachary Klein M.D radiologist, although without some specifics it may not. (I got a hit from a guy educated in Tel Aviv.) TBH, there should be lots of doctors named Zach Klein so maybe the move messed it up.

Where are they living now? I want to see which hospital he may be affiliated with.

Or maybe it’s one of Krissy’s lies, being a doctor’s wife sounds good, although they’d be unlikely to be broke enough to beg unless he’s still an intern. Then they wouldn’t move fast..

I think it’s a lie too but want to see if I can find out.

 

[Thinfont]

God, this is one of the worst MbP cases I've ever seen.

I would think it could've been plausible that Zachary was a radiologist, if not for the lack of searches. But Krissy appears to be that type to do everything in her power to get others to plunk their money right into her hands. Additionally, really? On file there should be more than just a social media profile, unless her medical situation in her area doesn't know too much about that. Then again, I don't know anything about that.

 

[I hate children?]

Where did we get the idea that her husband is a radiologist?

Their moving so quickly belies that, plus she knows nothing about the order of simple things, which she could ask him. Finally, a search doesn’t come up with a Zachary Klein M.D radiologist, although without some specifics it may not. (I got a hit from a guy educated in Tel Aviv.) TBH, there should be lots of doctors named Zach Klein so maybe the move messed it up.

Where are they living now? I want to see which hospital he may be affiliated with.

Or maybe it’s one of Krissy’s lies, being a doctor’s wife sounds good, although they’d be unlikely to be broke enough to beg unless he’s still an intern. Then they wouldn’t move fast..

I think it’s a lie too but want to see if I can find out.

A few pages back is their bankruptcy papers and his job was listed as an employee of a healthcare system in Colorado with his wages on it . Maybe he is a technician ?

I don't buy anything this woman is saying because she has a history of being dishonest to gain attention and recieve money from charitable people.

 

[Dr. Celery MD]

Maybe he is a technician ?

I think you're right, he's probably a radiology tech. If he were a legitimate radiologist I would expect to at least find his NPI number on a google search, but there's nothing.

 

[AzuraAquafina]

This is far worse than Susan Schofield. Even if the children aren't being drugged up by schizophrenia medication, they most definitely are scarred physically and mentally. I gotta ask what the other kids from their school think about this, I'd be pretty depressing if they got bullied considering how creepy it is to be treated like a doll and having a scar at the back of your head.
Also, I do wonder how long Krissy's antics will last. Eventually, there's gotta be a doctor or a concerned adult in her life out there that's willing to rat them out.

 

[large_farva]

This is far worse than Susan Schofield. Even if the children aren't being drugged up by schizophrenia medication, they most definitely are scarred physically and mentally. I gotta ask what the other kids from their school think about this, I'd be pretty depressing if they got bullied considering how creepy it is to be treated like a doll and having a scar at the back of your head.
Also, I do wonder how long Krissy's antics will last. Eventually, there's gotta be a doctor or a concerned adult in her life out there that's willing to rat them out.

This morning, I checked the group and found this, surprised she didn't drop her paypal at the end. I hope no one reading here is dumb enough to pull this shit.

I didn't see any comments so it must have been deleted or it was in private messages.

 

[Barbarella]

This morning, I checked the group and found this, surprised she didn't drop her paypal at the end. I hope no one reading here is dumb enough to pull this shit.

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I didn't see any comments so it must have been deleted or it was in private messages.

She says a friend too. I think somebody she knows just caught on.

But yes, it goes without saying we should keep our ideas here and not do any wèening. She’s already super vague and suspicious, we don’t want her to cover up anymore or run to yet another city and hide. Guaranteed she won’t stop, better to have it happen in public so we can document everything.

 

[I hate children?]

This morning, I checked the group and found this, surprised she didn't drop her paypal at the end. I hope no one reading here is dumb enough to pull this shit.

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I didn't see any comments so it must have been deleted or it was in private messages.

I also think she reads here because she put that GFM up asap after there were comments here about her only seeking donations via PayPal and direct deposit so she knows people are onto her. I don't doubt she gets random messages but it also isn't unlike her to falsely claim someone is being mean to her in order to gain new sympathy and to stir up more donations. When donations have slowed in the past she has created new drama by claiming medical professionals were calling her a liar and her followers ate it up .

Krissy surrounds herself with very religious people and people with sick kids because they hand money over and tend to be extremely guilable. They also aren't likely to question her inconsistencies because "that's unchristian" and fundies within the chronic illness community network in the same circles .

But if someone here is messaging her just stop and let this circus develop on its own . Anyway I have to giggle over her acting like she keeps to herself and doesn't like sharing her personal life .

 

[The Real SVP]

Congratulations, farms. You got me. This is the first thread I will use the "ignore" function for. Watching her destroy these beautiful children is too much for me.
Edit: Well, shit. Looks like "Ignore" only works for users.

 

[Sperghetti]

This morning, I checked the group and found this, surprised she didn't drop her paypal at the end. I hope no one reading here is dumb enough to pull this shit.

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I didn't see any comments so it must have been deleted or it was in private messages.

To be fair, “it’s all staged, the girls couldn’t possibly be sick because they smile” doesn’t sound like the general sentiment around here. I think most people on this thread are well aware that the kids seem to be quite miserable and are in very real pain, just not from anything natural.

Of course, that could also just be Krissy’s interpretation of what “Munchausen by proxy” means.

 

[large_farva]

To be fair, “it’s all staged, the girls couldn’t possibly be sick because they smile” doesn’t sound like the general sentiment around here. I think most people on this thread are well aware that the kids seem to be quite miserable and are in very real pain, just not from anything natural.

Of course, that could also just be Krissy’s interpretation of what “Munchausen by proxy” means.

I agree the phrase "it's all staged" struck me as very off. Krissy's posting history suggests to me that she likes to word salad when a simple phrase would suffice.
She never outright said that Aaron and Haleigh had a hiatal hernia to explain why they both had Nissen Fundoplication. Instead she chose to word salad the fuck out of it (and would her claims even be possible, seems like exaggeration to me, can anyone medfag this?)

There is a LONG history of Krissy saying her children have trouble swallowing.

There is nothing staged about that except the Krissy show. She stages her emotions and her reactions and her posts, but the girls actually did get put through all those fucking surgeries and mom is still gunning for more.

She already has Aaron scheduled for "surgery to explore his digestive track mouth to bottom"
which sounds horrible but I'm guessing she's talking about an endoscopy and colonoscopy - a nice treat for thanksgiving. This bitch and ruining holidays and birthdays, and may I add what a fucking horrible procedure to put a child through. Anyone suspecting the kids are reacting to sexual abuse is almost correct - the invasive procedures, tests, surgeries all violate their bodies and are as close to sexual abuse as it gets.

Here's to the holidays for the Klein kids - hope you're not ALL under the knife.

Adding a little history:

Re: Ignoring the thread

It's tagged horrorcow for a reason.

 

[one_time_user]

in some circles, invasive, unnecessary, repeated medical stuff (surgeries and examinations) is considered to be in the family of rape/sexual abuse by proxy. it may not be in this case but it definitely is making me wonder. (an obvious example of this is TI's having had his daughter repeatedly examined for virginity- with (i believe) him in the room. that is absolutely sexual abuse by proxy.

 

[Mr.Mephistopheles]

Seems like the girls have gotten enough attention and now that eyebrows are raising a little at them, she is turning her attention on the boys more.
I agree with poster that this started from a maybe legitimate gluten allergy and she relished the attention and the praise, all of this has snowballed since. Bet the mother even believes her own lies at this point. Those poor kids.
Sounds like this Dr. Greenfield should have all his files reviewed.

 

[heavycream]

I don't yet think this is as bad as the Schofield case, only because the children are still cognizient and at the least aware of what's going on around them, while both Jani and Bodhi were developmentally stumped, and Bodhi was pretty much MIA mentally. Also I think it's a little soon to jump to accusing them of sexual abuse, which, as we saw raised and disproven in the Schofield case, may just be down to over-protectiveness and lack of boundaries.

 

[SituationTypeThing]

I wouldn't be surprised if she has google alerts on her name and kids names, thus knows about this thread. If she was referring to us in the FB post, of course she wouldn't mention this group either specifically or vaguely. The last thing she wants is her readers and donors to come here to slay her dragon, only to realize she's a lying munchie