Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Unlike the head KickVic costhot who applies the Sacred Ointment for her master Chris "Weebstein" Sabat, Renfamous might be a special crisis actor with connections to Twitter people.
Well she did have said to have connections inside Twitter.
But if that person were to be found out, wouldn't it be a breach of contract to do things that go against Twitter policies ?
That would be really a bother if that person were to be reported...
 
Well she did have said to have connections inside Twitter.
But if that person were to be found out, wouldn't it be a breach of contract to do things that go against Twitter policies ?
That would be really a bother if that person were to be reported...
I doubt that secret person will be found. Sure Twitter is making its rules less obnoxious, but only because they fear getting sued by Republicans. It would require a public and successful lawsuit against them for these crazy lefties to start culling people like the one who keeps reviving the blue orca.
 
I doubt that secret person will be found. Sure Twitter is making its rules less obnoxious, but only because they fear getting sued by Republicans. It would require a public and successful lawsuit against them for these crazy lefties to start culling people like the one who keeps reviving the blue orca.

Unless they start losing money and lay people off.

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Seriously what the fuck is wrong with these people? Why do you want him to lose his house so badly? And all he has to do is pay the fees if appeals don't work. Why the fuck would the court force him to give his house to Jamie

Renfamous and Shane are trying to keep KV's morale up and distract from LawTwitter falling flat on its face during the hearing last Friday.

I mean, LawTwitter said Lemoine was doing "Normal stuff." Chupp shot him down.

Can't have people wondering if LawTwitter was wrong or if Chupp was wrong.
 
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Seriously what the fuck is wrong with these people? Why do you want him to lose his house so badly? And all he has to do is pay the fees if appeals don't work. Why the fuck would the court force him to give his house to Jamie
Goes to show you again that one of the main problems they have with him is his christianity.
 
I doubt that secret person will be found. Sure Twitter is making its rules less obnoxious, but only because they fear getting sued by Republicans. It would require a public and successful lawsuit against them for these crazy lefties to start culling people like the one who keeps reviving the blue orca.
Public, successful, or at the very least as long and mind numbingly idiotic as Vic’s case. Hell, at least in Vic’s situation, the defendants are destroying their reputations on their own.
didn't Rial pretend to be Vic's bestie until a couple of days of all this blowing up?
including AFTER speaking with Denbow
including AFTER probably goading the Yost sisters (or maybe even colluding to cook up the accusations with them)

so Marchi had best be prepared to find out someday that 6 months ago Monica set the gears in motion to crush Marchi.
No clue because I don’t follow the voice acting circle anything resembling enough to know. But, from what I know of people in general, some friends are closer than others, some don’t hang out outside of work (to the point where you can even ask if they even are friends), and some people hate each other but can put beef and egos aside long enough to work together, even if there’s the occasional blowup.
 
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Couldn’t Twitter have suspended Renfamous too?
Seen Renfamous get banned and use an Alt. Just her name with an X on the end. She did the first handful of times she was banned. Technically that is a suspension. A temporary ban which permits you to use an Alt.

She then started to get banned and did not resort to an alt. She was truly banned, potentially permanently if this is the case. These types of bans are permanent save appeal. Seen her reverse her ban 3 times. 1 time was longer so guessing the reversal came about from elevating it somehow. I have to assume her or daddy know someone that can pull strings and get a favorable ruling.
 
Also, aren’t there laws in Texas that prevent people from having to give their house up to satisfy the courts?

Yes. Texas has some of the strongest homestead protections in the country. Until about ~10 years ago, rich people who were in financial problems would buy a Texas mansion and live in it, which made the mansion (at the time) entirely off-limits to creditors. Once the formerly-rich people had been through bankruptcy court (usually a semi-fast process), they'd sell the mansion and live off the savings.

The law has since changed, and is now a little more complicated. A house is still entirely off limits to creditors (not counting a bank mortgage or tax collector) under Texas state law. There was nothing that JSL or anyone else can do to get Vic's house in a Texas state court.

Federal bankruptcy court is different though. About 10 years ago, there was "bankruptcy reform," which was really "make it harder to dodge your credit cards using bankruptcy" reform, but whatever. Bankruptcy reform set a new requirement that a person own their house for 1215 days (40 months) before the house gets protection the unlimited Texas state-law protection. (11 U.S.C. 522(p)). A bankruptcy court, unlike a Texas state court, COULD foreclose on Vic's house that he's owned for less than 40-months.

Back to Vic: if he was worried about his house, he probably shouldn't be. He bought his house in September 2018, so 14 months have already passed. Even though his case is going up on an expedited appeal, I'd expect both sides to request additional briefing time, and so it's going to be 6-12 months before there is a decision. After that, Vic could file a motion for rehearing (another 3-9 months to resolve, if denied. Longer if granted), and a petition for review to the Texas Supreme Court (another 3-9 months to resolve, if the petition is denied. Years if granted).

By the time that the appeals in this case are all over, Vic was probably going to have met the 40-month requirement or gotten really close, assuming Vic lost everything (longer if he has any wins). Once the appeals are exhausted, Vic would just have to fight JSL's collection attempts for a brief period (if at all), and then declare bankruptcy once he hit 40-months. Basically, Vic would just have to stay out of bankruptcy court until 40 months after September 2018 (which is January 2022), and the house would be permanently off-limits to everyone but the government or a mortgage lender.

By placing the house in trust, Vic probably hasn't changed the analysis above. The people who are talking about fraudulent transfers just don't understand Texas' version of the Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act. Under Texas law, a fraudulent transfer is the "Transfer" of an "Asset" to dodge creditors. Tex. Bus. & Comm. Code 24.005. However, a person's house isn't an "Asset." An Asset is something that can be seized by creditors. Tex. Bus. & Comm. Code 24.002(2)(B). A house is exempt from seizure by creditors, and is therefore not an "Asset," and cannot possibly be fraudulently conveyed.

It's also legal to hold a house in trust and have it receive homestead protection, assuming the trust is drafted correctly.

This all raises the question: Why did Vic put his house in trust? 1) Vic is planning on moving (most likely); or 2) Vic is doing tax planning for his mom's death (less likely). If Vic moves away from his DFW house, it loses its Texas-law protection and can be seized. Vic may be protecting his house because of relocation plans.

Alternatively, Vic is putting the house in a Trust held by his mom in order to have it avoid capital gains taxes when she dies. This would be a complicated and unusual tax-avoidance strategy. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the house isn't worth enough to bother ($500k-ish), and I don't think Vic is rich enough to need a elaborate tax reduction plan.
 
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Seriously what the fuck is wrong with these people? Why do you want him to lose his house so badly? And all he has to do is pay the fees if appeals don't work. Why the fuck would the court force him to give his house to Jamie

Just so you guys know, and for every sped on lawtwitter who's saying that this happened early in the morning or she was either busy at a panel or went on break, the guy who took the picture says he hung around the con and saw her line, and the ones for the other VAs. at around 12 PM (AM on his tweet) until around 5:30 PM last Saturday on November 9.

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Which somewhat fits in with the timeframe of when she and the other MHA VAs were supposed to hold their Photo Op at 1:45 PM. With her only other two panels being at 6:45 PM and 9:30 PM.

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So either the dude is just trolling and is full of shit and he did indeed take the photos of the VAs in the morning before more people (aside from the 3 in front of Caitlin's table) were even there or Jamie just went on a break (which doesn't explain why she left her assistant behind or why the other VAs like J. Michael Tatum and Sabat are still there) or this is just more evidence of Jamie's sinking ship of a career. Who can say.

Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamie was just locked inside a bathroom stall somewhere bawling her eyes out and seething at the fact that no one with more than half a brain is falling for her bullshit and that mean old Vic is getting all the lines.
 
Yes. Texas has some of the strongest homestead protections in the country. Until about ~10 years ago, rich people who were in financial problems would buy a Texas mansion and live in it, which made the mansion (at the time) entirely off-limits to creditors. Once the formerly-rich people had been through bankruptcy court (usually a semi-fast process), they'd sell the mansion and live off the savings.

The law has since changed, and is now a little more complicated. A house is still entirely off limits to creditors (not counting a bank mortgage or tax collector) under Texas state law. There was nothing that JSL or anyone else can do to get Vic's house in a Texas state court.

Federal bankruptcy court is different though. About 10 years ago, there was "bankruptcy reform," which was really "make it harder to dodge your credit cards using bankruptcy" reform, but whatever. Bankruptcy reform set a new requirement that a person own their house for 1215 days (40 months) before the house gets protection the unlimited Texas state-law protection. (11 U.S.C. 522(p)). A bankruptcy court, unlike a Texas state court, COULD foreclose on Vic's house that he's owned for less than 40-months.

Back to Vic: if he was worried about his house, he probably shouldn't be. He bought his house in September 2018, so 14 months have already passed. Even though his case is going up on an expedited appeal, I'd expect both sides to request additional briefing time, and so it's going to be 6-12 months before there is a decision. After that, Vic could file a motion for rehearing (another 3-9 months to resolve, if denied. Longer if granted), and a petition for review to the Texas Supreme Court (another 3-9 months to resolve, if the petition is denied. Years if granted).

By the time that the appeals in this case are all over, Vic was probably going to have met the 40-month requirement or gotten really close, assuming Vic lost everything (longer if he has any wins). Once the appeals are exhausted, Vic would just have to fight JSL's collection attempts for a brief period (if at all), and then declare bankruptcy once he hit 40-months. Basically, Vic would just have to stay out of bankruptcy court until 40 months after September 2018 (which is January 2022), and the house would be permanently off-limits to everyone but the government or a mortgage lender.

By placing the house in trust, Vic probably hasn't changed the analysis above. The people who are talking about fraudulent transfers just don't understand Texas' version of the Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act. Under Texas law, a fraudulent transfer is the "Transfer" of an "Asset" to dodge creditors. Tex. Bus. & Comm. Code 24.005. However, a person's house isn't an "Asset." An Asset is something that can be seized by creditors. Tex. Bus. & Comm. Code 24.002(2)(B). A house is exempt from seizure by creditors, and is therefore not an "Asset," and cannot possibly be fraudulently conveyed.

It's also legal to hold a house in trust and have it receive homestead protection, assuming the trust is drafted correctly.

This all raises the question: Why did Vic put his house in trust? 1) Vic is planning on moving (most likely); or 2) Vic is doing tax planning for his mom's death (less likely). If Vic moves away from his DFW house, it loses its Texas-law protection and can be seized. Vic may be protecting his house because of relocation plans.

Alternatively, Vic is putting the house in a Trust held by his mom in order to have it avoid capital gains taxes when she dies. This would be a complicated and unusual tax-avoidance strategy. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the house isn't worth enough to bother ($500k-ish), and I don't think Vic is rich enough to need a elaborate tax reduction plan.
So what I’m hearing is that Jamie and Monica couldn’t take Vic’s house even if they wanted to. So much for that victory cigar, KickVic. Though they’ll probably spin bankruptcy.
 
So what I’m hearing is that Jamie and Monica couldn’t take Vic’s house even if they wanted to. So much for that victory cigar, KickVic. Though they’ll probably spin bankruptcy.
It'll probably be that because Funimation will drop their sorry ass when they see that they are royally screwed.
 
Just so you guys know, and for every sped on lawtwitter who's saying that this happened early in the morning or she was either busy at a panel or went on break, the guy who took the picture says he hung around the con and saw her line, and the ones for the other VAs. at around 12 PM (AM on his tweet) until around 5:30 PM last Saturday on November 9.

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Which somewhat fits in with the timeframe of when she and the other MHA VAs were supposed to hold their Photo Op at 1:45 PM. With her only other two panels being at 6:45 PM and 9:30 PM.

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So either the dude is just trolling and is full of shit and he did indeed take the photos of the VAs in the morning before more people (aside from the 3 in front of Caitlin's table) were even there or Jamie just went on a break (which doesn't explain why she left her assistant behind or why the other VAs like J. Michael Tatum and Sabat are still there) or this is just more evidence of Jamie's sinking ship of a career. Who can say.

Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamie was just locked inside a bathroom stall somewhere bawling her eyes out and seething at the fact that no one with more than half a brain is falling for her bullshit and that mean old Vic is getting all the lines.
Unless more photos come out about the event, we’ll just have to take this guy’s word and photo for it for now. And what an appropriate photo: the panels of two snakes (Tatum, Marchi) devoid of lines and a miserable-looking assistant sitting in Marchi’s place while the one VA who had stayed the most quiet (Glass) has a line herself.
 
Just so you guys know, and for every sped on lawtwitter who's saying that this happened early in the morning or she was either busy at a panel or went on break, the guy who took the picture says he hung around the con and saw her line, and the ones for the other VAs. at around 12 PM (AM on his tweet) until around 5:30 PM last Saturday on November 9.

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Which somewhat fits in with the timeframe of when she and the other MHA VAs were supposed to hold their Photo Op at 1:45 PM. With her only other two panels being at 6:45 PM and 9:30 PM.

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So either the dude is just trolling and is full of shit and he did indeed take the photos of the VAs in the morning before more people (aside from the 3 in front of Caitlin's table) were even there or Jamie just went on a break (which doesn't explain why she left her assistant behind or why the other VAs like J. Michael Tatum and Sabat are still there) or this is just more evidence of Jamie's sinking ship of a career. Who can say.

Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamie was just locked inside a bathroom stall somewhere bawling her eyes out and seething at the fact that no one with more than half a brain is falling for her bullshit and that mean old Vic is getting all the lines.

I mean, you either pay those Funi VAs 50 $ for a signed pic or Star Trek / Dr. Who A-listers, plus all the actors from other shows, wrestlers, creators, etc. As insufferable as Takei may be, I dislike that Funi crowd more. Plus, his autograph may at least sell for a few bucks.
 
and I don't think Vic is rich enough to need a elaborate tax reduction plan.
You always need one! you have to starve the beast!

there is a good reason why im registered as a slave to a trust in mauretania and why my car had an IPO on the belarussian stock exchange 2 years ago.
 
or 2) Vic is doing tax planning for his mom's death
hol up hol up. Let me get this straight.
Vic:
Raped his way across the convention scene for for 20 years
Assaulted Jamie and Monica.
Totally wants to bang that little girl in the Supergirl costume
Wears the gayest of pants
And now he's planning a hit on his mom.
Egad we need this man in jail, now.
 
LOL @ them basically admitting that Marchi is a vindictive cunt. :story:


What I find interesting is that Seitz was the casting director for Fire Emblem: Three Houses, a game where Todd provides voicework for a minor character. Now, there could be multiple reasons for that, but I personally like to imagine that even a spineless pussy like Seitz had to admit that Thotmore was full of shit.

I didn’t know that Todd provided voice work for Three Houses, guess Puss Puss Seitz didn’t have the balls to get rid of an alleged rapist and had to bite his tongue like the bitch he always had been~

Sweet.
 
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Just so you guys know, and for every sped on lawtwitter who's saying that this happened early in the morning or she was either busy at a panel or went on break, the guy who took the picture says he hung around the con and saw her line, and the ones for the other VAs. at around 12 PM (AM on his tweet) until around 5:30 PM last Saturday on November 9.
I'd be willing to bet money that the photo is an accurate representation of what happened at their tables. I looked the event up online expecting to hear low overall turnout, but I must admit that their turnout (based on pictures) was probably pretty good. That said, the headliners were clearly the people labeled on their actual site as "celebrities" (none of the voice actors are on this list) which is primarily actors from Dr. Who and Star Trek, plus Dave Batista and non-headline Marvel actors. So, I would expect the vast majority of people went for those people.

Of the remainder, I'd be really impressed if they did much business at all. From a video J Michael Tatum at least got one person to come by his booth with a MHA funko pop, and there's a photo of someone's Sabat autograph on a figure. But I've seen the pull the mid/bottom range actors have at events more focused on anime and it isn't that strong. I've seen voice actors on Jamie's tier (or better) that are sitting on their ass doing nothing for hours at a time, I've literally sat talking to some of them for a while due to nothing better to do. But heck, she should consider it a win if she got 10 or more people to pay her $30 at an event where Kevin Conroy and John DiMaggio were in attendance and charging $40 a pop.

There were 28 voice actors listed to be at the event and devoid of any of the WW drama even if she'd never gotten involved in this at all, Jamie's definitely not in the top half of that list possibly even in the bottom 25% (depending on how you rate certain characters). Honestly, if she had 10-20 people show up to this event asking for autographs purely as a show of moral support it might've been better for her than before. (that's a mixture of her drawing power and the competition she'd have been up against at this event) But then, to be honest I have no idea why anyone would pay for these people's autographs. While I wouldn't pay for a Hollywood celebrity to sign something, I at least vaguely understand that, but I don't understand paying an anime voice actor.
 
I'd be willing to bet money that the photo is an accurate representation of what happened at their tables. I looked the event up online expecting to hear low overall turnout, but I must admit that their turnout (based on pictures) was probably pretty good. That said, the headliners were clearly the people labeled on their actual site as "celebrities" (none of the voice actors are on this list) which is primarily actors from Dr. Who and Star Trek, plus Dave Batista and non-headline Marvel actors. So, I would expect the vast majority of people went for those people.

Of the remainder, I'd be really impressed if they did much business at all. From a video J Michael Tatum at least got one person to come by his booth with a MHA funko pop, and there's a photo of someone's Sabat autograph on a figure. But I've seen the pull the mid/bottom range actors have at events more focused on anime and it isn't that strong. I've seen voice actors on Jamie's tier (or better) that are sitting on their ass doing nothing for hours at a time, I've literally sat talking to some of them for a while due to nothing better to do. But heck, she should consider it a win if she got 10 or more people to pay her $30 at an event where Kevin Conroy and John DiMaggio were in attendance and charging $40 a pop.

There were 28 voice actors listed to be at the event and devoid of any of the WW drama even if she'd never gotten involved in this at all, Jamie's definitely not in the top half of that list possibly even in the bottom 25% (depending on how you rate certain characters). Honestly, if she had 10-20 people show up to this event asking for autographs purely as a show of moral support it might've been better for her than before. (that's a mixture of her drawing power and the competition she'd have been up against at this event) But then, to be honest I have no idea why anyone would pay for these people's autographs. While I wouldn't pay for a Hollywood celebrity to sign something, I at least vaguely understand that, but I don't understand paying an anime voice actor.
I'd believe it.

I attended World Super Con back in June, where there some pop/geek culture shared convention space with football players like Frank Gore, Joe Montana and Deion Sanders. As you see even Vic, who can bring in hundred of people in random, last minute hotel signing, didn't get much play.

I was only there for a few hours, on one day. @Svetlana hung around, I think.
 
hol up hol up. Let me get this straight.
Vic:
Raped his way across the convention scene for for 20 years
Assaulted Jamie and Monica.
Totally wants to bang that little girl in the Supergirl costume
Wears the gayest of pants
And now he's planning a hit on his mom.
Egad we need this man in jail, now.

This shit is fucking hilarious😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lol Feast Deluxe
 
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I didn’t know that Todd provided voice work for Three Houses, guess Puss Puss Seitz didn’t have the balls to get rid of an alleged rapist and had to bite his tongue like the bitch he always had been~

Sweet.
Yeah, it was a very minor role (as in, the character died in the same chapter he was introduced in), and I have a feeling that's why Seitz gave him the role in the first place. Still hilarious either way, IMO--either he very reluctantly hired someone who was accused of being a Very Naughty Boy, or he realized that he blindly trusted a huge liar because she had a vagina.

I'll give him some leeway if the latter turns out to be the case, but he's still a grown-ass man who should know better then to get involved in some online virtue-measuring contest.
 
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