Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Has Zoe Quinn finally been checkmated by her own indolence?

She still has a foot in the door of the indie gaming community, but she is not there on talent and eventually opportunities for this kind of work are likely to dry up.

As far as her own projects go, crowdfunding will be iffy, given the Chuck Tingle debacle. It is clear that she can neither manage a project, nor be trusted with large sums of money. We will likely never know how much of the $85,448 raised on Kickstarter, was used to bankroll her lifestyle and how much of it actually went into the game. If there was ever a pie chart that showed these relative figures, then Zoe probably ate it. The money raised for her Game Jam similarly vanished without trace (right into her personal PayPal if I recall correctly). The minority of backers who continue to doggedly post messages of support on the Chuck Tingle page are likely to lose faith if she begins another project without finishing the game first. Furthermore, I would imagine that there would be some degree of nervousness among Zoe's peers about working with her in the future, given the negligible benefits and her reputation for throwing her former affiliates under the bus.

She has wheedled her way into mainstream comics, but again she is not there on ability or sales. She has clearly been hired by editors within DC and Marvel because her presence within the industry upsets a certain demographic who these people deem undesirable as customers. The ground was crumbling underfoot in the mainstream comics long before Zoe began jumping up and down on it, and it cannot support her weight for very long.

A likely future where the big two publishers downsize significantly, resulting in a dwindling pool of employees and closer scrutiny on the bottom line, is not going to be a Zoe friendly environment. She could attempt to pivot into indie comics, perhaps with an eye to securing a Netflix deal, but I wonder whether she could raise the money to bankroll such a project, or summon the motivation to see it through. I think she might have missed the boat there anyway. The kind of storytelling that Zoe trades in is failing to connect with audiences and studios and production companies are waking up to this. At this point, her name alone is probably considered toxic to any brand that she associates with.

Further #Metoo accusations are likely to shift unwanted focus onto her past and a mounting pool of evidence that undermines her claims. She's cried wolf too many times, the last time with calamitous results. While her supporters in the media have invested too much in her harassment narrative to openly call her out, they no longer seem to be pushing her to the fore-front as a brave martyr who stood up to internet trolling . Whatever people are saying in public, behind the scenes I think there is an awareness of what Zoe is really about. Her current flailing on social media isn't really gaining the traction that it would have a few years ago.

In regards to her next move, my money is still on some kind of health scare (breast cancer?) followed-up, perhaps, by the establishment of an online support network that pulls in donations but delivers little, if anything, in return (the classic Zoe grift). It seems plausible given her despicable nature, plus it insulates her from criticism – you would have to be a villain to call out a cancer survivor.

Beyond that possibility, I don't see anywhere else she can go. She is past the point where she could have ensnared some wealthy sugar daddy. Russell Greer has shown no interest. She is several decades too old for Jonathan Yaniv, who probably wouldn't even ask to borrow one of her tampons.

Anita Sarkeesian can parlay her experience running Feminist Frequency into a some kind of bullshit position within a charity, a political think tank, or the human resources department of some gormless corporation. Brianna Wu has her husband to bankroll her demented and entertaining political ambitions. Even the loathsome Randi Harper had the good sense to walk away from the tables when the odds turned against her.

Zoe kept gambling and losing with other people's money and now it is running out.
That's a whole lot of assumptions about a large incestuous group of people who maintain their own capital, social and financial, by bolstering one another. The only thing that will see her support wane long-term and to a degree that will actually affect her is a sea change in the performative nature of "oh no poor bb uwu we still beleeb in u" sociopolitics.

If she continues to espouse the proper messages overall (and nothing so small as "sexual assault trials should not be held on social media") she will continue to exist on the backs of rubes and other manipulators cut from the same cloth.
 
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Your grooming and aesthetic failures has nothing to do with your current stresses, Zoe. They have to do with you knowing that the types of men you're surrounded by have subterranean standards, and will ignore those failings. You definitely can't try and use people holding you accountable for Alec's suicide as an out for your lack of functionality, because that lack of functionality was clearly visible at every turn, before he did a flip because you accused him of shit on social media.
 
They all just kinda slithered off, comforted by the fact that there was enough diffusion of responsibility involved that no one person is completely guilty of driving someone else to suicide. Only partially, in a highly compartmentalized death camp kind of way.

Blood doesn't wash off. They're the people slithering away from a lynching.
 
We will likely never know how much of the $85,448 raised on Kickstarter, was used to bankroll her lifestyle and how much of it actually went into the game. If there was ever a pie chart that showed these relative figures, then Zoe probably ate it. The money raised for her Game Jam similarly vanished without trace (right into her personal PayPal if I recall correctly).

Don't forget the CON job. However much money went into that got stolen by Chelsea as well. I wouldn't hold out much faith that the scum who gave her money care, though. They watched her spend all this money while delivering nothing without a peep of protest.
 
but really though how fucking difficult is it to just get off twitter
It's a hell of her own making. People like her and Becks need to be constantly reminding everyone around them how wronged they are, how desperate their situation is and how vital it is that their every need is seen to by other people because of all the Very Important Work they're doing.
 
Which other victims of his is she even talking about?

We had:
  1. That one chick who worked with him who alleged that he asked her out on a date while they were working together on a game. She alleged that he became a big meanie after she said no to him, treating her unfairly although he had been nice before. No evidence. Think she posted this one day after Zoe's story. Seemed pretty clear to me that she never tried and talked to Alec about this. I think she even said that she tried to reach Alec the same day, but he wouldn't respond fast enough, so she decided to go public (that might also have been Scott, idk.). This is the only story you could KINDA see as sexual harassment at the workplace, I guess. Kinda?
  2. A group of people who worked with him on games before who all basically said the same thing: He's an asshole to work with, he's a perfectionist and expects everyone around him to work as much as he does and be perfect. That's neither illegal nor sexual misconduct. Also, he worked with troons. Nuff said.
  3. Scott who accused him of, well, being an asshole and actually expecting Scott to fucking do his work. He also accused Alec of "suicide baiting", but that might've been an actual cry for help, as we now know. Too bad Alec didn't have a friend willing to listen to him.
  4. His own sister who released a vague statement supporting Zoe's claims, only saying that Alec had mental health issues that we don't know about, so he might've been guilty. She backpedalled later, saying that he might not have been guilty of everything he was accused of. Too bad that came after his death. Last thing he saw from his sister was her alleging to the whole internet he might be guilty of a sex crime because of his mental health issues. Let that sink in.

Conclusion: Nobody else accused him of anything that even comes close to Zoe's story. Number one is the only thing that could kind of be seen as harassment at the workplace (I don't know US law that well) There are no other victims and Zoe is full of shit. This is not a Weinstein situation where more and more women come forward with similar stories. It's literally only her her kicking him in the face and then calling all of his friends and his sister to finish him off while he's lying on the ground bleeding. It was only her.
It should be restated the thing Scott alleges drove him into ptsd was having his 7 hour a day work weeks sometimes extended into the weekends
 
It should be restated the thing Scott alleges drove him into ptsd was having his 7 hour a day work weeks sometimes extended into the weekends
His seven hour a day work weeks spent coding a video game. I don't mean at all to diminish the effort developers put into their products, but do you know what happens when people in machining shops work constant OT? Fingers get lost and improper product is made that can force recalls after failures cause injuries and deaths. Sarariimen pull 80-hour weeks over and over and develop heart disease and have strokes from stress.

Scott had demands placed on him professionally for the first time in his life and decided to take it personally instead of talking with his good friend about it and adjusting things. Fuck him.
 
His seven hour a day work weeks spent coding a video game. I don't mean at all to diminish the effort developers put into their products, but do you know what happens when people in machining shops work constant OT? Fingers get lost and improper product is made that can force recalls after failures cause injuries and deaths. Sarariimen pull 80-hour weeks over and over and develop heart disease and have strokes from stress.

Scott had demands placed on him professionally for the first time in his life and decided to take it personally instead of talking with his good friend about it and adjusting things. Fuck him.
the worst part is he still rants on twitter about capitalist robber barons mistreating workers, like hes the one to talk about that issue
 
His seven hour a day work weeks spent coding a video game. I don't mean at all to diminish the effort developers put into their products, but do you know what happens when people in machining shops work constant OT? Fingers get lost and improper product is made that can force recalls after failures cause injuries and deaths. Sarariimen pull 80-hour weeks over and over and develop heart disease and have strokes from stress.

Scott had demands placed on him professionally for the first time in his life and decided to take it personally instead of talking with his good friend about it and adjusting things. Fuck him.

I work vastly more hours, in a fairly dangerous trade, and the incidence of PTSD among people that have seen major incidents is relatively high, but we also bond together strongly as tradespeople, so we form our own support networks, while millennial narcissists appear functionally incapable of anything resembling normal human interaction, from what I can tell.

the worst part is he still rants on twitter about capitalist robber barons mistreating workers, like hes the one to talk about that issue

How in the fuck does he have anything like a complaint about "capitalist robber-barons", when he's a self-employed, completely exceptional asshole?
 
I work vastly more hours, in a fairly dangerous trade, and the incidence of PTSD among people that have seen major incidents is relatively high, but we also bond together strongly as tradespeople, so we form our own support networks, while millennial narcissists appear functionally incapable of anything resembling normal human interaction, from what I can tell.



How in the fuck does he have anything like a complaint about "capitalist robber-barons", when he's a self-employed, completely exceptional asshole?
To be fair he was discussing other people doing something for themselves, didnt involve him personally but still he is not the right spokesperson for redefining the relationship between employer and employee
 
Narcs like Chelsea can't live without Twitter. Asking them to get off it is like asking them to stop breathing or to cut off a limb. They NEED the constant asspats and validation.
Her self-imposed twitter hiatus was probably the majority of the reason for her suicidal thoughts and why she returned so quickly. Also, when she returned it was “just to promote some work stuff” because she claimed it was only fair to her contributors on her shit comics. Then it was dog pics, then some jokes and now a long googleshng on why people should stop reminding potential new followers or job prospects she drove someone to suicide.

She desperately wants and needs to get back to shit posting on twitter to feed her narcissism only those saints in her mentions reminding her what she did are making it difficult.
 
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Your grooming and aesthetic failures has nothing to do with your current stresses, Zoe. They have to do with you knowing that the types of men you're surrounded by have subterranean standards, and will ignore those failings. You definitely can't try and use people holding you accountable for Alec's suicide as an out for your lack of functionality, because that lack of functionality was clearly visible at every turn, before he did a flip because you accused him of shit on social media.

What basic biological things is she no longer capable of doing other than losing weight?
 
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