Secret Gamer Girl / SecretGamerGrrl / Googleshng / "Violet Hargrave" / Jacob Lawrence (Jake) Alley / Violet Cassandra Ocean - Delusional Zoe Quinn Stalker, Libelous Tweeter, Thirsty Gnome, Faux-Tranny Neckbeard Incel, Micropenis, "Known Troubled Person", Creator of "Massive vs the Masses", Self-Described "Noise Making Thing"; Lives in Niantic, CT

[Tragi-Chan]

He used to claim chronic Lyme disease, but I'm not sure if he did at the time he wrote that.

Not chronic lying disease?

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Holy fuck I actually am pissed. Jesus fucking christ this retard actually says DNA isn't a code for instructions. The fuck does he think DNA do, create his magical glandular disorder out of nowhere?
Does he think DNA is what actually composes his cells?

Look at this reply from an obvious troon:
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Of course it doesn't, since you don't even know what the function of DNA is.

The metaphor was supposed to be for morons like these, but they just had to deliberately misunderstand it.

Troons trying to convince us "x doesn't contain information" are so dumb. Everything contains information.

But honestly, fine, if they want to go back to "DNA is meaningless," fine. Boys are born with dicks, girls are born with vaginas. That's how the split was done for ages. "But those are meaningless, too!"

It seems like the "meaningless" they use is prescriptive, not descriptive. It's not used to genuinely indicate a state of being without discernable meaning, it's a verbal "KEEP OUT" sign, a warning not to try to find meaning contained there, lest you discover uncomfortable or outright forbidden truths.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Troons trying to convince us "x doesn't contain information" are so dumb. Everything contains information.

But honestly, fine, if they want to go back to "DNA is meaningless," fine. Boys are born with dicks, girls are born with vaginas. That's how the split was done for ages. "But those are meaningless, too!"

It seems like the "meaningless" they use is prescriptive, not descriptive. It's not used to genuinely indicate a state of being without discernable meaning, it's a verbal "KEEP OUT" sign, a warning not to try to find meaning contained there, lest you discover uncomfortable or outright forbidden truths.

I’d agree with this. To most people, the traditional markers of gender are just fine. It’s just a very small minority of people who operate from the faulty logic that “I am female, and if my gender markers say I’m male, it’s the gender markers that are wrong.

Again, I want to know exactly what it is in a trans person, scientifically speaking, that makes them the opposite gender. They can’t have it both ways. Either it’s feelings or it’s science. You can’t dismiss the science unless you have an equally scientific response.

 

[Wallace]

I’d agree with this. To most people, the traditional markers of gender are just fine. It’s just a very small minority of people who operate from the faulty logic that “I am female, and if my gender markers say I’m male, it’s the gender markers that are wrong.

Again, I want to know exactly what it is in a trans person, scientifically speaking, that makes them the opposite gender. They can’t have it both ways. Either it’s feelings or it’s science. You can’t dismiss the science unless you have an equally scientific response.

It's whatever the other side is not arguing. If they bring up science, the troon calls them a bigot. If they bring up feelings, the troon calls them stupid for not getting how science works. If you're looking for logical consistency, you're not going to find it here.

 

[Next Task]

Just... a content warning for weight. In that if you talk about your own weight at all, there is a presumption that other people will get upset and triggered. I wonder if that's extended to talking about any form of weight - can't talk about a bridge's load capacity, can't talk about the size of an elephant, can't talk about the size of pygmy deer, because there's people who claim to be so upset about any hint of pounds or grams, stone or kilos, that they need to be warned off the topic.

Jesus Christ.

Again, I want to know exactly what it is in a trans person, scientifically speaking, that makes them the opposite gender. They can’t have it both ways. Either it’s feelings or it’s science. You can’t dismiss the science unless you have an equally scientific response.

That's where you're wrong - they can have it both ways, once they make feelings science. It's not uncommon to see TRAs (albeit usually ones who aren't trans themselves) talk about letting people be who they truly feel they are, deep down inside, as the reason why society should accept all forms of trooning out. They use scientism, not actual science, where feelings are just as important as facts and shit like Jake's completely insane belief in glandular problems and how DNA works is considered enough of a justification.

And @Wallace is right, it doesn't make logical sense, they'll argue whichever side they need to for justification. But I think the feelings over facts is the more pernicious, dangerous and common line of thought, because they're the ones who hate truscum/transmedicalists, or what we would generally regard as the ones who at least make a bit of effort, up to those rare few who genuinely have crippling gender dysphoria that has exhausted all other options and can only really be handled with physical intervention.

But yes, if at any point you challenge the cognitive dissonance, you're just called a bigot and they dismiss you. They haven't reasoned themselves into their position, so it's nigh-on impossible to reason them out of it.

 

[Positron]

How come Jake never heard the term "genetic code"?
Didn't Jake claim to have good grades in school, so good that they made the yearbook committee jealous and tried dirty tricks to reject the photo of "Violet"?

 

[AnOminous]

Holy fuck I actually am pissed. Jesus fucking christ this retard actually says DNA isn't a code for instructions.

It literally codes proteins molecule by molecule, exactly. It has a read/write capability, it could literally be turned into a Turing machine. How is Jake this fucking dumb?

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

The strange thing is even though he's been tasked by history with this important job, he specifically doesn't want to hear about any of it unless the people are already rotting in prison:

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I wonder if that's extended to talking about any form of weight - can't talk about a bridge's load capacity

I can't think of a better example of thin privilege than not having to worry about bridge load capacity before crossing it.

 

[Konstantin Romanov]

Again, I want to know exactly what it is in a trans person, scientifically speaking, that makes them the opposite gender. They can’t have it both ways. Either it’s feelings or it’s science. You can’t dismiss the science unless you have an equally scientific response.

To play tranny's advocate for a minute here, and please do bear with me, what Jake's probably stumbling around trying to say with his incoherent "genes aren't elves" rant is that there are extragenetic factors, or intragenetic factors, which can cause sexual disorders even with what we might call "intact" genes. Prenatal exposure to various hormones, organic chemicals or even certain elements can increase your risk of catching the gay. Certain infections and parasites can influence behaviour, including some which make you more promiscuous or, again, gay. Also, some genes can downregulate or deactivate important genes for sexual function, the most obvious of these being Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome where a genetic male has a broken copy of the genes that code for androgen receptors and/or their precursors, resulting in stunted or nonexistent sexual development.

All of this informs, in my opinion, the synthesis of the troon hypothesis: While most troons aren't affected by any of the examples I gave or similar such known effects, because the mechanism by which sexual retards "feel" themselves to be the opposite sex is unknown we have a gap in understanding where there might be a real mechanistic explanation for troonery. Now, I don't think you're a woman even if you do have a virus that makes you want to chop off your penis, nor is it particularly compelling to list examples of causes for psychological disorders and say "well there must be something like that for my autogynophilia", but that's the best steelman I can make.

 

[AnOminous]

All of this informs, in my opinion, the synthesis of the troon hypothesis: While most troons aren't affected by any of the examples I gave or similar such known effects, because the mechanism by which sexual exceptional individuals "feel" themselves to be the opposite sex is unknown we have a gap in understanding where there might be a real mechanistic explanation for troonery. Now, I don't think you're a woman even if you do have a virus that makes you want to chop off your penis, nor is it particularly compelling to list examples of causes for psychological disorders and say "well there must be something like that for my autogynophilia", but that's the best steelman I can make.

It's pretty obvious there isn't some "troon gene" that just causes you to troon out, otherwise you wouldn't have so many idiots who suddenly troon out after spending months jerking off to sissy porn and associating with cult weirdos on tumblr.

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

MtF trannies are more female than natal women because they have government issued credentials that indicate they are female, according to Jake Alley. Natal women haven't had their sex/gender scrutinized in the manner that trannies have.

https://twitter.com/SecretGamerGrrl/status/1194186802304897024 (https://archive.is/JfBA9)

Jake implies that there are natal women that are in fact men. That they have vulvas, vaginas, uteruses, ovaries etc, that they menstruate and give birth is irrelevant. Government documents are what matter.

This is absurdity on the level of legislating a solution for squaring the circle, which among other things implied a value of 3.2 for pi.

Regarding, "Kiva"/persenche, Jake either has some neurological problem relating to facial processing or he is being disingenuous. Kiva was a coarse featured man. HRT alone isn't going to change that. There are limits even with what FFS can accomplish. I woulld question the value of a transition by someone that looks like Kiva. If you aren't going to pass as a woman then why bother transitioning? If there is dysphoria still after depilation and HRT then what has been achieved beyond self-inflicted marginalization.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

MtF trannies are more female than natal women because they have government issued credentials that indicate they are female, according to Jake Alley. Natal women haven't had their sex/gender scrutinized in the manner that trannies have.

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https://twitter.com/SecretGamerGrrl/status/1194186802304897024 (https://archive.li/JfBA9)

Jake implies that there are natal women that are in fact men. That they have vulvas, vaginas, uteruses, ovaries etc, that they menstruate and give birth is irrelevant. Government documents are what matter.

This is absurdity on the level of legislating a solution for squaring the circle, which among other things implied a value of 3.2 for pi.

Regarding, "Kiva"/persenche, Jake either has some neurological problem relating to facial processing or he is being disingenuous. Kiva was a coarse featured man. HRT alone isn't going to change that. There are limits even with what FFS can accomplish. I woulld question the value of a transition by someone that looks like Kiva. If you aren't going to pass as a woman then why bother transitioning? If there is dysphoria still after depilation and HRT then what has been achieved beyond self-inflicted marginalization.

This is peak Jake. Am I missing something or does he really believe that cis women don't have government documents stating that they are women? Birth certificates, driver's licenses, passports, social security cards? Does Jake believe that the only reason one would get government documents would be in order to transition genders? It's almost too much to fathom. One of Jake's most stupid tweets yet.

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

This is peak Jake. Am I missing something or does he really believe that cis women don't have government documents stating that they are women? Birth certificates, driver's licenses, passports, social security cards? Does Jake believe that the only reason one would get government documents would be in order to transition genders? It's almost too much to fathom. One of Jake's most stupid tweets yet.

I think he means that they haven't been scrutinized in order to get the "F" on their primary id documents. MtF trannies have, so in that sense they are more female than natal women. This isn't a new line of thought for Jake. Recall his claim that he has "ultra thin double-girl skin" because he is on a really high dose of estrogen. Jake thinks that MtF trannies are more female than natal women; men are better at womaning than women. This is Jake's misogyny being expressed.

 

[repentance]

I think he means that they haven't been scrutinized in order to get the "F" on their primary id documents. MtF trannies have, so in that sense they are more female than natal women. This isn't a new line of thought for Jake. Recall his claim that he has "ultra thin double-girl skin" because he is on a really high dose of estrogen. Jake thinks that MtF trannies are more female than natal women; men are better at womaning than women. This is Jake's misogyny being expressed.

Jake sprouts this bullshit from the safety of Twitter because he knows damned well that if he ever told a natal woman in real life that he is more of a woman than she is, he would probably be punched for his trouble.

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

Jake sprouts this bullshit from the safety of Twitter because he knows damned well that if he ever told a natal woman in real life that he is more of a woman than she is, he would probably be punched for his trouble.

And/or laughed at.

 

[Positron]

MtF trannies are more female than natal women because they have government issued credentials that indicate they are female, according to Jake Alley. Natal women haven't had their sex/gender scrutinized in the manner that trannies have.

Jake Alley has never gone through the gatekeeper gantlet. Not even under his own definition does he have woman credentials.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

This is peak Jake. Am I missing something or does he really believe that cis women don't have government documents stating that they are women? Birth certificates, driver's licenses, passports, social security cards? Does Jake believe that the only reason one would get government documents would be in order to transition genders? It's almost too much to fathom. One of Jake's most stupid tweets yet.

Jake is jealous of 'natal' women who don't have to work as hard as he does to be a women.
If he were to give a speech on the subject we would hear: "Ask not (munches tendies)... what your vagina can do for you. Ask what YOU (burp) can do for your vagina!"

 

[Tragi-Chan]

It’s easy for Jake to talk about undergoing scrutiny, or difficulties with transition, but he refuses to provide any evidence that he’s ever undergone any of them himself. I mean, we have laughable troons like Rhys and Slingblade, but they at least live as women, up to a point. There is nothing to suggest Jake is anything other than the bearded gnome he was last time he was photographed. For him to sperg about scrutiny is, well, mansplaining.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

For him to sperg about scrutiny is, well, mansplaining.

Worse, it's cissplaining.

Speaking of which, Jake wants that TERF doctor arrested or fired or something, also trans women do not look at all like men, all this and more:

edit: oh, he's still going, thought he was done

and still going...