Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Thanks for the link @damian

So, bottom line first. For me, the first half of the Mandalorian pilot episode was perfectly serviceable, and the last half of the show the quality started to suffer.

All indiscriminate spoilers below, if you care:
Starting from the top:

The opening cantina scene. Looks like it has a vague resemblance to the star wars aesthetic. That is immediately better than TFA. The writing was functional, if heavy handed. The choreography was alright, but the camera work did it no favors. The alien being the bounty target was a pleasant surprise. However, if they were trying to make a joke out of the character, all it succeeded in doing was being grating. Anyway, the alien tries, and fails to buy off the bounty hunter.

The ship scene. Nostalgia bait for those of us who recognize the ship class. The animal attacking the ship was... convenient and doesn't make much sense (at least to me on first viewing) After all why have a ship landing site there if there is a risk of aggressive mutant walruses attacking and sinking your ship into the icy sea? The titular Mandalorian has to get a funky looking shock-stick to dislodge said mutant walrus upon takeoff, after it chased the Mando and blue alien man to the ship, CGI of aforementioned walruses was not amazing.

Now inside the ship, we spend more time with vaguely annoying blue alien man and the wordless Mando man. Eventually, the blue alien man tries to rummage around the lower cargo hold on the excuse that he needs to use the restroom. After fiddling with a gun cabinet with overly flappy rubber prosthetics, the blue alien man discovers several other prisoners who have been frozen in (particularly fake looking) carbonite. Alien is then shoved into a carbonite freezer by the Mandalorian, and is promptly frozen.

Now at some bounty hunter guild HQ, Mando talks to Black Man In-Charge. It is established that the empire is already dead, and its money is no longer useful (replaced by Mon Calamari currency). Mando complains about the lack of paying work, and is offered a private commission job which demands a face to face meeting with said commissioner. Mando accepts, and goes out to go to the meeting.

At the meeting location we get a lot more nostalgia bait. However, this particular scene happens to work the best in my opinion. Upon entering the building, we see several (Four I think) extremely roughed up old style Stormtroopers (really this is how the ST should have looked), and Wealthy Imperial Man. A clumsy imperial scientist blunders in, and causes all the troopers and Mando to pull guns. Imperial man talks them down after light banter is traded. The Mando if offered a block of Beskar bullion. This interests the Mando.

Now, I have been avoiding this topic, but I have no other choice but to mention this now. The voice of the Mandalorian is way too smooth, far too young, and generally lacking any gravitas whatsoever. It is clear why he says very little, because very time he speaks, he stops being intimidating or impressive. I am not saying he needed to sound like he is gargling gravel, but he should (at the very least) have an uncommonly strong presence in the vocal department as that is the only thing the audience has to latch onto. I digress.

The Mando takes the job offer and is given scant information about the Asset other than the age (50 years), A last spotted location, and a tacking device (that we have seen several times and has not been explained in the least). No description whatsoever. Mando is promised a cache of Beskar in return for the asset if returned alive, and half if returned dead (scientist man balks at this). Mando leaves with the down payment Beskar.

The bounty hunter mandalorian goes to a Mandalorian Den. The bounty hunter meets up with the lady forge-master (who seems to be part spiritual and part community leader). Part of the Beskar is forged into a new shoulder pauldron, the rest going to "sponsoring" Foundlings (orphans?). We learn that the bounty hunter is a foundling. Forge-master calls this group the Tribe (not a Clan like in all previous media).

The newly paldroned Mandalorian then goes to planet bounty target. My summary past this point will get lazy and sloppy, just like the episode. Upon landing and stepping out to scout, the Mandalorian is immediately bodied by Blurgs (which have decent to poor CGI). These get KO shots from Farmer Alien. Farmer Alien says wise shit. Mando follows Farmer Alien home on the promise of the farmer alien guiding him to the bounty location.

But uh, oh, The Mando will have to learn to ride the Blargs in order to get where they are going... for some reason, and NOT fly hist ship there. So the Mando tries to ride the Bluargs twice, and gets bucked off. Alien farmer says some profound wise shit about how the Mandos used to ride Mythosaurs (you know instead of hunting them to extinction). Suddenly the Mando is able to ride the Blauags after doing a nice doggie bit. What does this actually do for us? Fuck all really. Farmer Alien takes Mando to the bounty compound location because he wants the planet to be left in peace or some shit.

Here we see out first glimpse of the IG droid. Waltzing its way into and through a gunfight. The Mandalorian joins the IG droid and shenanigans ensue. I can't really adequately describe the gunfight. Is there a term for when something has a really high production value but still looks really amateurish? Because that is sure what it felt like. A children's idea of a gunfight, combined with a bad tonal clash of suicidal droid comedy and nigh invulnerable action heros on the other. Bottom line, it wasn't good.

The episode ends with the Droid and the Mando finding the baby yoda creature and the droid having explicit orders to perform an extreme late term abortion. Mando kills droid. End. You all have already discussed how mind numbingly stupid bringing yoda's species was.

To put it mildly, it has all the hallmarks of a repeat performance of TFA, an ultimately hollow, unsatisfying, experience. Nonetheless, If they build up from here, it could be a decent show, but we all know that it will probably only get worse from here.
I don't think anyone else could've said it better. Kudos. One thing does seem odd though. A lot of early stuff implied the planet this show would be set on would be Tatooine, but instead we get Blahblahblah-7 as the main setting. And instead of Moisture Farmers we get Vapor Farmers despite the job being the same. It seems pretty odd. Disney should have no trouble using these planets and terms if they truly owned everything. It just seems so odd.
 
I don't think anyone else could've said it better. Kudos. One thing does seem odd though. A lot of early stuff implied the planet this show would be set on would be Tatooine, but instead we get Blahblahblah-7 as the main setting. And instead of Moisture Farmers we get Vapor Farmers despite the job being the same. It seems pretty odd. Disney should have no trouble using these planets and terms if they truly owned everything. It just seems so odd.
Gives a bit more credence to the "Disney is so cheap that they're using chinese knockoff terms just so they can save on a few pennies to Lucas" theory.

And honestly? I can believe it. The Rat is just that soulless that I don't put it above them to resort to such petty measures.
 
The problem with the Mandolorian is that it truly shows justhow Disney has ruined the value of the brand.
From cinematic EVENT
To direct to streaming service filler (even if its good)
We wont get new star wars movies for a very long while or maybe never since I doubt there is a demand for more starwars movies now, the brand is permanently devalued. Sure they are still games, comics and movies but they pale in comparison to those before Disney...
The new generations are not getting into star wars and that will affect how it moves forward.
Disney has truly destroyed a cultural landmark for money (and wokeness) at the end of the day...
 
The problem with the Mandolorian is that it truly shows justhow Disney has ruined the value of the brand.
From cinematic EVENT
To direct to streaming service filler (even if its good)
We wont get new star wars movies for a very long while or maybe never since I doubt there is a demand for more starwars movies now, the brand is permanently devalued. Sure they are still games, comics and movies but they pale in comparison to those before Disney...
The new generations are not getting into star wars and that will affect how it moves forward.
Disney has truly destroyed a cultural landmark for money (and wokeness) at the end of the day...

Let's not exaggerate the state of Star Wars before The Mouse bought it. Lucas fucking ruined the franchise with his atrocious prequel films. People like to claim the PT are ackshually great compared to the ST. No they aren't. They're awful.

You could say live action SW was at least still restricted to the films, and that would be true. But the brand was damaged long before Disney overpaid for it and decided to fuck it up in a slightly different way.
 
The problem with the Mandolorian is that it truly shows justhow Disney has ruined the value of the brand.
From cinematic EVENT
To direct to streaming service filler (even if its good)
We wont get new star wars movies for a very long while or maybe never since I doubt there is a demand for more starwars movies now, the brand is permanently devalued. Sure they are still games, comics and movies but they pale in comparison to those before Disney...
The new generations are not getting into star wars and that will affect how it moves forward.
Disney has truly destroyed a cultural landmark for money (and wokeness) at the end of the day...
They can sell another movie, but they need to be a bit more risky
 
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The problem with the Mandolorian is that it truly shows justhow Disney has ruined the value of the brand.
Disney has truly destroyed a cultural landmark for money (and wokeness) at the end of the day...

I would kill for an Old Man Fett tv series. EVS mentioned it once on a live stream where you mix "Man on Fire" with "True Grit" and put it in the Star Wars Universe and Rate it R. Remove any SJW moral police nonsense. Remove any moral police/SJW nonsense, make it a simple formula where Fett has "One Last Job(tm)" to do as a favor to someone/somewhere and then he can put his armor to rest for good. He's old, his skills suck, he's not as sharp on the trigger, etc etc. make him HUMAN and vulnerable (those disney fuckwits love that shit in a man) but let him succeed on his wits/luck and get the job done.

I fucking promise you it will sell subscriptions if done right, but they won't do it because:

1. White Man Lead: He's not white he's Polynesian...
2. Women aren't in charge: No shit, make the client be a woman or the villan be a woman
3. R Rated: Adults don't matter, we need more children to see bodies being sawed in half , and explosions as that's ok.

If they dont' want to make it about Fett literally pick any galaxy race that's in this goddamn universe and use it, there's brazillions of species it could be.

Disney is sitting on a content gold mine but is simply shitting out popcorn content instead of advancing and promoting the brand for generations to come. This is the result of "Next Quarter's results" vs. "Next Decade's Growth" mentality. Make money now, worry about making more money later.
 
If I remember right though, I think this is the Huttese word for "I'll end you". But even so, this pretty much flies in the face of everything shills like HelloGreedo bragged about. Can't wait to see how they spin this. Or better yet, claim its still George's fault and that Georgy boy is bullying poor old Disney.

They are doing just that, as you just predicted: saying "it was a change George made just before he sold to Disney in 2012." Unfortunately I lost the damned article that I just read that in, or I'd post a link, sorry.

So George went in, with no new home video release planned, and changed ONE thing in ONE film, just for the hell of it...and it was that? Um...why?
 
Let's not exaggerate the state of Star Wars before The Mouse bought it. Lucas fucking ruined the franchise with his atrocious prequel films. People like to claim the PT are ackshually great compared to the ST. No they aren't. They're awful.

You could say live action SW was at least still restricted to the films, and that would be true. But the brand was damaged long before Disney overpaid for it and decided to fuck it up in a slightly different way.

I respectfully disagree, I do see where you are coming from tho. George was perfect? No. Pre-Disney Lucasfilms did everything perfect? Of course not.
But you see, they didnt put profit above the value of the brand itself and they knew they needed to constantly change it and have risks (true risks, not "oh look, we have a female lead, like us!" )
We had so many SW games in a single decade from various devs before Disney.
Disney trusted E-fucking-A and in a decade we got two bad to average Battlefront games and a Software styled game that may or may not be decent (the game feels like its trying to be their take on the force unleashed but its EA so Im not fucking trusting them until I see glowing USER reviewers and not "journos" and even then, I may only pirate it because they dont deserve a fucking buck).
The best SW movie from Disney was Rogue One, which I consider it to be a flawed but decent movie that adds to the movies without taking anything away, UNLIKE the others that devalue the events of all previous movies (even Solo is guilty of that in a smaller scale, Han just feels like a dingus even during the OG trilogy now)
The flaws of pre-disney SW didnt devalue the brand, they could leave marks but we could always focus on the good that outweight the bad.
With Post Disney, you gotta REALLY fucking struggle to find enough goods to balance with the overwhelming quantity of bad.
Aw yes, of course, I almost forgot
Pre Disney didnt call us, the fucking fans, man babies for daring to not enjoy their project.
We hated the prequels? Well, they made us like them through Clone Wars (both 2D and 3D) and decent to great Legends material. They focused on the solution.
Post Disney calls us, the fucking fans, man babies for just having some reasonable constructive criticism and to have expected a bit better from them (like they liked to act like they were).
We hated the sequels? Well, they make us hate them even more through Resistance and awful to Meh "Canon" material. They focused on finding excuses and work arounds while doubling down on what they were doing.

Just sharing how I see it, my friend.

They can sell another movie, but they need to be a bit more risky

Disney HATES risks, because it leaves the chance they wont make their buck back so you can expect to win the lottery twice in a row while two asteroids barely miss hitting Earth before they actually decide to take a different direction and take risks.

I would kill for an Old Man Fett tv series. EVS mentioned it once on a live stream where you mix "Man on Fire" with "True Grit" and put it in the Star Wars Universe and Rate it R. Remove any SJW moral police nonsense. Remove any moral police/SJW nonsense, make it a simple formula where Fett has "One Last Job(tm)" to do as a favor to someone/somewhere and then he can put his armor to rest for good. He's old, his skills suck, he's not as sharp on the trigger, etc etc. make him HUMAN and vulnerable (those disney fuckwits love that shit in a man) but let him succeed on his wits/luck and get the job done.

I fucking promise you it will sell subscriptions if done right, but they won't do it because:

1. White Man Lead: He's not white he's Polynesian...
2. Women aren't in charge: No shit, make the client be a woman or the villan be a woman
3. R Rated: Adults don't matter, we need more children to see bodies being sawed in half , and explosions as that's ok.

If they dont' want to make it about Fett literally pick any galaxy race that's in this goddamn universe and use it, there's brazillions of species it could be.

Disney is sitting on a content gold mine but is simply shitting out popcorn content instead of advancing and promoting the brand for generations to come. This is the result of "Next Quarter's results" vs. "Next Decade's Growth" mentality. Make money now, worry about making more money later.

Problem is, we have almost nothing from Boba in this continuity, Legends Boba Fett was a fucking force to be feared with, he showed you dont need the force to freaking annihilate anything on your way, he was the type of guy that breaks your wrist for trying to be cheap and use a force push.
Bob.A.Feet in Disney? Its IMPLIED in a novel he escaped the Sarlacc but outside of ocassional prequel comics with him (tho not as badass), we dont know what became of him after Ep 6...So we dont know if he was still alive during the ST and if so, what he was doing (a better trilogy would at least give a hint or even have a small appearance from him for some fanservice).
Besides, Boba is the type of man who can be in his fucking 80's and not quit his line of work, as long he can stand and shit on his own, he will keep doing what he does.
The only reason they had that type of story with Wolverine in Logan was because of the Old Man Logan comic and because Hugh Jackman wanted to give a proper send off to his incarnation of the character.
 
The problem with the Mandolorian is that it truly shows justhow Disney has ruined the value of the brand.
From cinematic EVENT
To direct to streaming service filler (even if its good)
We wont get new star wars movies for a very long while or maybe never since I doubt there is a demand for more starwars movies now, the brand is permanently devalued. Sure they are still games, comics and movies but they pale in comparison to those before Disney...
The new generations are not getting into star wars and that will affect how it moves forward.
Disney has truly destroyed a cultural landmark for money (and wokeness) at the end of the day...
I was just going to say it, but thanks anyway because this is basically sums up everyone's views on Disney SW as a whole.

I respectfully disagree, I do see where you are coming from tho. George was perfect? No. Pre-Disney Lucasfilms did everything perfect? Of course not.
But you see, they didnt put profit above the value of the brand itself and they knew they needed to constantly change it and have risks (true risks, not "oh look, we have a female lead, like us!" )
We had so many SW games in a single decade from various devs before Disney.
Disney trusted E-fucking-A and in a decade we got two bad to average Battlefront games and a Software styled game that may or may not be decent (the game feels like its trying to be their take on the force unleashed but its EA so Im not fucking trusting them until I see glowing USER reviewers and not "journos" and even then, I may only pirate it because they dont deserve a fucking buck).
The best SW movie from Disney was Rogue One, which I consider it to be a flawed but decent movie that adds to the movies without taking anything away, UNLIKE the others that devalue the events of all previous movies (even Solo is guilty of that in a smaller scale, Han just feels like a dingus even during the OG trilogy now)
The flaws of pre-disney SW didnt devalue the brand, they could leave marks but we could always focus on the good that outweight the bad.
With Post Disney, you gotta REALLY fucking struggle to find enough goods to balance with the overwhelming quantity of bad.
Aw yes, of course, I almost forgot
Pre Disney didnt call us, the fucking fans, man babies for daring to not enjoy their project.
We hated the prequels? Well, they made us like them through Clone Wars (both 2D and 3D) and decent to great Legends material. They focused on the solution.
Post Disney calls us, the fucking fans, man babies for just having some reasonable constructive criticism and to have expected a bit better from them (like they liked to act like they were).
We hated the sequels? Well, they make us hate them even more through Resistance and awful to Meh "Canon" material. They focused on finding excuses and work arounds while doubling down on what they were doing.

Just sharing how I see it, my friend.
Here's the thing though, people can just ignore the Disney timeline as non-canon crap and just view the pre-2012 timeline as the real canon. This past summer, I rewatched Episodes 1-6 (the level of enjoyment with the rewatches is incredible) without acknowledging Episodes 7-9 and it felt very refreshing and healthy knowing that those six films were made by passion, energy, and heart instead of profits and shareholders.

Disney HATES risks, because it leaves the chance they wont make their buck back so you can expect to win the lottery twice in a row while two asteroids barely miss hitting Earth before they actually decide to take a different direction and take risks.
I honestly think Disney would after Iger is finally gone in 2021.

Speaking of Iger, I gotta feeling his favorite movie is honestly Heaven's Gate and it influenced his career. It's not the film itself that influenced him, but the reaction and effects that it had. You see, that movie had Michael Cimino had complete creative control with taking risks that went over budget and behind schedule. When it came out, Heaven's Gate not only got savaged by critics and killed the New Hollywood Era, it effectively killed United Artists as a standalone studio. That convinced Iger when he was starting his career and other studios at that time that making a risk-heavy film could tank your company. Iger probably Disney making these kind of risks back when he took over as CEO and quickly resorted to specializing in franchises and brands to acquire.
 
Problem is, we have almost nothing from Boba in this continuity, Legends Boba Fett was a fucking force to be feared with, he showed you dont need the force to freaking annihilate anything on your way, he was the type of guy that breaks your wrist for trying to be cheap and use a force push.
Bob.A.Feet in Disney? Its IMPLIED in a novel he escaped the Sarlacc but outside of ocassional prequel comics with him (tho not as badass), we dont know what became of him after Ep 6...So we dont know if he was still alive during the ST and if so, what he was doing (a better trilogy would at least give a hint or even have a small appearance from him for some fanservice).
Besides, Boba is the type of man who can be in his fucking 80's and not quit his line of work, as long he can stand and shit on his own, he will keep doing what he does.
The only reason they had that type of story with Wolverine in Logan was because of the Old Man Logan comic and because Hugh Jackman wanted to give a proper send off to his incarnation of the character.
This is the reason I didn't have much of a problem with Fett surviving the Sarlacc in the EU/Legends/The True Canon. He gave sass to Vader and not only survived without getting his ass kicked, but he tracked down Han and caught him. In addition, as he is a perfect clone of Jango Fett, the problem of accelerated aging in the clones would not apply to him (Clone Troopers were engineered to age faster. This is why the Clone Army was ready so soon after being ordered.). But his ability to survive would go further than that.

It took an outright decapitation to down Jango, and I'd expect a similar level of force would be needed to put Boba in the ground. We also know that cybernetics in Star Wars have reached the point to allow the otherwise maimed and crippled to survive and even fight on the level of Jedi (Grievous, Vader). As Fett does not use the Force, he is under no compulsion to maintain his living tissue, like Vader was.

The conclusion to be drawn here is that Fett wouldn't become Old Man Fett, he'd become a pseudo-Terminator as he aged. Replacing the damaged and destroyed biological parts of him with mechanical implants until he basically became nothing more than his brain in a suit of armor. Turning himself into a machine created to kill Jedi and take bounties, forever molded in the form of the Mandalorians of old.

But Disney won't ever have complicated, powerful, nuanced antagonists (Remember: Fett saw his father, the man he was closest to, die at the hands of a Jedi. He's not depicted as cruel or evil, just pragmatic and angry.). They want Hux to scream at the camera and Ren to get whipped like a bitch.
 
I honestly think Disney would after Iger is finally gone in 2021.

Speaking of Iger, I gotta feeling his favorite movie is honestly Heaven's Gate and it influenced his career. It's not the film itself that influenced him, but the reaction and effects that it had. You see, that movie had Michael Cimino had complete creative control with taking risks that went over budget and behind schedule. When it came out, Heaven's Gate not only got savaged by critics and killed the New Hollywood Era, it effectively killed United Artists as a standalone studio. That convinced Iger when he was starting his career and other studios at that time that making a risk-heavy film could tank your company. Iger probably Disney making these kind of risks back when he took over as CEO and quickly resorted to specializing in franchises and brands to acquire.

I would love to be proven wrong. And the whole Heaven's Gate stuff fits pretty well with Iger's mentality, thing is, even safe shit will underperform after a while, especially if it appeals to non fans (while demonizing actual fans) and Bob either doesnt care/ can see the problems with it.
Im keeping my expectations low tho.
 
I would love to be proven wrong. And the whole Heaven's Gate stuff fits pretty well with Iger's mentality, thing is, even safe shit will underperform after a while, especially if it appeals to non fans (while demonizing actual fans) and Bob either doesnt care/ can see the problems with it.
Im keeping my expectations low tho.
My philosophy in art is as follows: Safe isn't safe.
Allow me to explain: you can churn out safe, bland media, but it will never be as successful or impactful as truly risky endeavors. People remember the OT of Star Wars better than Avatar, because the OT was a weird and truly experimental mix of works inspired by a variety of sources, while Avatar was the blandest greenscreen shit in the decade, inspired by Pocahantas, Ferngully, and nothing else. The lack of soul behind it made it forgettable.

The Disney Star Wars movies were inspired by Star Wars and money. Nothing more. No other sources. It's a bland derivative of a better work with nothing to say and nothing to remember.
 
I would love to be proven wrong. And the whole Heaven's Gate stuff fits pretty well with Iger's mentality, thing is, even safe shit will underperform after a while, especially if it appeals to non fans (while demonizing actual fans) and Bob either doesnt care/ can see the problems with it.
Im keeping my expectations low tho.
But it would be ironic if Episode IX turns out to be a bomb like Heaven's Gate, i.e. killing a beloved branded due to corporate greed and killing the careers of those involved.
 
I would love to be proven wrong. And the whole Heaven's Gate stuff fits pretty well with Iger's mentality, thing is, even safe shit will underperform after a while, especially if it appeals to non fans (while demonizing actual fans) and Bob either doesnt care/ can see the problems with it.
Im keeping my expectations low tho.
Right now Bob's belief is Disney plus is going to replace movies. [and all the streaming regimes] so he is building up the resources to do that
 
He along with the hacks at Netflix are idiots if they think. Nothing will replace the magic of watching a movie in theaters, which I argue true cinema is at.
Basically Theaters are for "Event" movies [Be it Joker or The Force awakens] but for things more like Doctor Sleep the theater experience doesnt do enough to put the movie to the next level of enjoyment
 
This is the reason I didn't have much of a problem with Fett surviving the Sarlacc in the EU/Legends/The True Canon. He gave sass to Vader and not only survived without getting his ass kicked, but he tracked down Han and caught him. In addition, as he is a perfect clone of Jango Fett, the problem of accelerated aging in the clones would not apply to him (Clone Troopers were engineered to age faster. This is why the Clone Army was ready so soon after being ordered.). But his ability to survive would go further than that.

It took an outright decapitation to down Jango, and I'd expect a similar level of force would be needed to put Boba in the ground. We also know that cybernetics in Star Wars have reached the point to allow the otherwise maimed and crippled to survive and even fight on the level of Jedi (Grievous, Vader). As Fett does not use the Force, he is under no compulsion to maintain his living tissue, like Vader was.

The conclusion to be drawn here is that Fett wouldn't become Old Man Fett, he'd become a pseudo-Terminator as he aged. Replacing the damaged and destroyed biological parts of him with mechanical implants until he basically became nothing more than his brain in a suit of armor. Turning himself into a machine created to kill Jedi and take bounties, forever molded in the form of the Mandalorians of old.

But Disney won't ever have complicated, powerful, nuanced antagonists (Remember: Fett saw his father, the man he was closest to, die at the hands of a Jedi. He's not depicted as cruel or evil, just pragmatic and angry.). They want Hux to scream at the camera and Ren to get whipped like a bitch.

Exactly, for him, if he gets too old, just replace his old legs and arms with machines and eventually the rest of his flesh outside of his brain.
Fuck me, the imagine of Boba Fett being around 200 years later as a Mecha Bounty Hunter sounds like a genius concept. Which is why Disney wont ever do it. Screw it, Im gonna use the concept for my own written projects for
the future.
And Boba was far from malicious, he was a true neutral, he almost never took any sides, only the one that paid him the most, be it the empire or the rebels for the moment being. Hell, Boba does have his own set of morals, as few as they are, I recall in a comic or book set in Ep 6, when Leia gets captured and put in that Slave Leia outfit, some horny Jabba goons wanted to have their...way with her and Boba pretty much kicked the shit out of them for it...he may be a bounty hunter only in it for the money but even rape is going too far for him (as bounty hunters and hitmen usually have personal rules and morals even in the real world).
For me there is only Legends Boba and thats it, the true Mandalorian.

My philosophy in art is as follows: Safe isn't safe.
Allow me to explain: you can churn out safe, bland media, but it will never be as successful or impactful as truly risky endeavors. People remember the OT of Star Wars better than Avatar, because the OT was a weird and truly experimental mix of works inspired by a variety of sources, while Avatar was the blandest greenscreen shit in the decade, inspired by Pocahantas, Ferngully, and nothing else. The lack of soul behind it made it forgettable.

The Disney Star Wars movies were inspired by Star Wars and money. Nothing more. No other sources. It's a bland derivative of a better work with nothing to say and nothing to remember.

You nailed it, the true classics we treasure today (and mourn for because hollywood is fucking killing them) were almost all risks back in the day.
Joker is the modern example of that, it took risks...a LOT of them and I can easily say they paid off beautifully so much that the movie has entered into the level of true classic for the decades to come.
We need risky and less safe stuff in our medias, animated, live action, comics, whatever, just make sure you are trying something unique from you and you only. We want new universes to get invested in, new rules, new lore, we want to move on from the past (while treasuring it, not fucking recycle it.)
Good luck having that with Disney growing out of control tho.

But it would be ironic if Episode IX turns out to be a bomb like Heaven's Gate, i.e. killing a beloved branded due to corporate greed and killing the careers of those involved.

Oh trust me, it may not be on the same level but for the STAR WARS standarts...it will be.
Not sure if it will kill careers (maybe some but not all). Disney knows its gonna be a bomb, they are just trying to fool normies that isnt the case (tho the lack of marketing is an obvious sign they have NO faith in it)

Right now Bob's belief is Disney plus is going to replace movies. [and all the streaming regimes] so he is building up the resources to do that

Im so tired of these streaming services, holy shit. I will not be getting Disney + (my close friend is and its clear I cant convince him otherwise, being the shill for disney he is). Its a bubble, you see, its all gonna burst soon and I dont know what the consequences will be but the oversaturation will be its downfall.
They are focusing on being the superior service, not the one thats better for the client, its a fucking dick measuring contest that we are stuck in the middle of.
 
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